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Should trannies be allowed in the military?
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why in the world would there be any issues with any of these???
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
Originally Posted By friesbruh⏩
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to liveno.
1.basic trng showeringg issues
2.bathroom issues
3. pt test issues
4. barrack/tent issues
5. deployment sleeping issues (w/other units)
6. random drug test & being watched issues
1.basic trng showeringg issues
2.bathroom issues
3. pt test issues
4. barrack/tent issues
5. deployment sleeping issues (w/other units)
6. random drug test & being watched issues
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
Just because you cant prove there is a god doesnt mean there is no god. Keep in mind that you cant DISPROVE the hand of a maker either. The big bang itself is HUGE evidence for a creator because to think that all of existence was once in an infinitesimally small, hot and dense spot and then suddenly decided to inflate and that doesnt seem like there has to be an intelligent force behind it at all to you?We keep talking about mental illness when I truly believe everyone is mentally ill. Believing in God in my opinion is mentally ill because it's never been proven, just like how some people think trannies are mentally ill, because it's never been proven that they genuinely are the gender that they feel they are.
At the end of the day, Like I said a few posts up, war is the biggest thread and most destructive thing in our world, and completely illogical, yet we're discussing trannies or people that believe/talk to a cloud fairy.
The whole conversation is redundant, and truthfully I feel so sad for our species.
At the end of the day, Like I said a few posts up, war is the biggest thread and most destructive thing in our world, and completely illogical, yet we're discussing trannies or people that believe/talk to a cloud fairy.
The whole conversation is redundant, and truthfully I feel so sad for our species.
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
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03-25-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ForPeteSake⏩
we should put all prisoners that have been arrested for gun crimes on the front lines. that will help with prison populationThis. Should we allow depressed, anxiety prone, schizo people in the army?
but I suppose being too picky has its negatives too.
but I suppose being too picky has its negatives too.
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03-25-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
****ing lmaowhy in the world would there be any issues with any of these???
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
Just because you cant prove there is a god doesnt mean there is no god. Keep in mind that you cant DISPROVE the hand of a maker either. The big bang itself is HUGE evidence for a creator because to think that all of existence was once in an infinitesimally small, hot and dense spot and then suddenly decided to inflate and that doesnt seem like there has to be an intelligent force behind it at all to you?
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
Just because you cant prove there is a god doesnt mean there is no god. Keep in mind that you cant DISPROVE the hand of a maker either. The big bang itself is HUGE evidence for a creator because to think that all of existence was once in an infinitesimally small, hot and dense spot and then suddenly decided to inflate and that doesnt seem like there has to be an intelligent force behind it at all to you?
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
03-25-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Yes, I do think believing in this thing called God just because of programming from past generations is some form of mental illness. Whether that be Muslim or Christian or whatever story they were sold and brainwashed with.why in the world would there be any issues with any of these???
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
Just because you cant prove there is a god doesnt mean there is no god. Keep in mind that you cant DISPROVE the hand of a maker either. The big bang itself is HUGE evidence for a creator because to think that all of existence was once in an infinitesimally small, hot and dense spot and then suddenly decided to inflate and that doesnt seem like there has to be an intelligent force behind it at all to you?
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
Just because you cant prove there is a god doesnt mean there is no god. Keep in mind that you cant DISPROVE the hand of a maker either. The big bang itself is HUGE evidence for a creator because to think that all of existence was once in an infinitesimally small, hot and dense spot and then suddenly decided to inflate and that doesnt seem like there has to be an intelligent force behind it at all to you?
And believing in god is mentally ill you say? How odd of you to say that. Would you say that to the 1.8 billion muslims in the world? Out of the 7.3 billion people in the world, about 500 million are atheists. You are gonna tell me that you think 6.8 billion people are mentally ill for believing in a deity? Or does your view just conform to the christian god?
As far as atheism goes, every established atheist author will acknowledge that without the idea of an inherent god, good and evil doesnt exist and of you dont believe in god, then you should be indifferent to the idea of murder
Ya'll get all scientific when it comes to trannies then become all Disneyland when it comes to religion. You can't have it both ways.
I personally (and yes, I could very well have a mental illness) believe that every single atom in the universe is God (I call it Source) Equally.
However, following books, written by who knows who, edited throughout the ages to define what is and what is not evil, and believing that it's FACT, totally does not resonate with me.
But like I said... I don't see that as inferior. We all have our mental illnesses, why not just try cohabitate in peace?
03-25-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
True but I wouldn't want my life in someone's hands who hated themselves so much they had to cut pieces off themselves or chemically alter themselves to a huge degree. They should either be in their own dedicated 'combat' units or relegated to support roles.whoever wants to fight should be allowed to fight, imo
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Plenty of people hate themselves. Tranny or not. I thought being on the Misc since 2006 would have gave you some pointers.True but I wouldn't want my life in someone's hands who hated themselves so much they had to cut pieces off themselves or chemically alter themselves to a huge degree. They should either be in their own dedicated 'combat' units or relegated to support roles.
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nope, dont want everyones tax dollars being wasted towards the mental healthcare of someone who is already at higher risk for problems and suicide BEFORE even potentially being exposed to extremely stressful situations.
We can do just fine without them, why would add another .1% of the military population to ruin the morale of 90% already serving. NOT worth it
We can do just fine without them, why would add another .1% of the military population to ruin the morale of 90% already serving. NOT worth it
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03-25-2018, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
Report me all you want you gluttonous lard ass. I love what this country was founded upon and I love that which is good which also means the other side is hating that which seeks to destroy our society and hating that which is evil and relishes at destroying and tearing apart that which is good. God forbid someone stands up and speaks the truth with courage and willingness to take whatever persecution from the sodomitesshut the fuk up you prick. reported for being a chitty human
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
LOL, Jesus Christ, cut the BS, son. You didn't know that you were gay from ages 3-4. For one thing, you can't remember that, and for another, 3-4 year old children don't have sexual attraction to anyone. Just because a boy is feminine or liked to play with dolls, dress up, etc. doesn't mean that he is homosexual, that is a bad idea that I am sure has negatively affected numerous boys who don't fit the status quo.I'm gay and I knew I was gay from age 3-4. I have studied transgenderism a bit and it appears that transgenders also have a similar experience, they don't wake up one day and decide they're a different gender.
Homosexuality and Transgenderism are two wholly different things also. Homosexuality is a sexual preference, similar to a fetish. Transgender people want us to LITERALLY believe that they are the sex that they choose to be, which is madness. If they just said that they liked to pretend that they were a different sex, I wouldn't take an issue with it. My issue comes when they want us to shape reality around their delusions and pretend that science can't disprove them.
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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
Report me all you want you gluttonous lard ass. I love what this country was founded upon and I love that which is good which also means the other side is hating that which seeks to destroy our society and hating that which is evil and relishes at destroying and tearing apart that which is good. God forbid someone stands up and speaks the truth with courage and willing will take whatever persecution the sodomites use to attack me.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
You think being gay is about sex? Are you trying to tell me you didn't have some inclination you were straight when you were 4?LOL, Jesus Christ, cut the BS, son. You didn't know that you were gay from ages 3-4. For one thing, you can't remember that, and for another, 3-4 year old children don't have sexual attraction to anyone.
Homosexuality and Transgenderism are two wholly different things also. Homosexuality is a sexual preference, similar to a fetish. Transgender people want us to LITERALLY believe that they are the sex that they choose to be, which is madness. If they just said that they liked to pretend that they were a different sex, I wouldn't take an issue with it. My issue comes when they want us to shape reality around their delusions and pretend that science can't disprove them.
Homosexuality and Transgenderism are two wholly different things also. Homosexuality is a sexual preference, similar to a fetish. Transgender people want us to LITERALLY believe that they are the sex that they choose to be, which is madness. If they just said that they liked to pretend that they were a different sex, I wouldn't take an issue with it. My issue comes when they want us to shape reality around their delusions and pretend that science can't disprove them.
I'm not going to get into a debate with someone who has just flat-out demanded they know what I've went through. I haven't dictated your life experience, at least try to respect mine.
I know what i've been through. By the age of 7 I was praying to Jesus and God to make me not a *******. And I was brought up not to believe in religion.
I've been at war with myself over my identity since as far back as I can remember. I'm at peace with it now and realise everyone is struggling in some shape or form. I don't victimise myself anymore, cause it's destructive.
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
true, i wouldnt want those people watching my back either.. ive never been in combat but i have to imagine a mentally weak person is about the worst type you want fighting along your sidePlenty of people hate themselves. Tranny or not. I thought being on the Misc since 2006 would have gave you some pointers.
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Originally Posted By Caeculus⏩
do you know what an ad hominem argument is?Report me all you want you gluttonous lard ass. I love what this country was founded upon and I love that which is good which also means the other side is hating that which seeks to destroy our society and hating that which is evil and relishes at destroying and tearing apart that which is good. God forbid someone stands up and speaks the truth with courage and willingness to take whatever persecution from the sodomites
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Originally Posted By Lucianus⏩
I didn't have any inclination that I like to stick my dik in women when I was 4. That is what I am telling you. I had no concept of that at all. I had no concept of being in a relationship with a male or a female either. If you are saying that I fit the role of a typical male at that age naturally, then that would suggest that gender ISN'T a social construct, but something that we were born with. Is that what you are saying?You think being gay is about sex? Are you trying to tell me you didn't have some inclination you were straight when you were 4?
Yes, being gay is about attraction to the opposite sex, that includes sexual attraction. Not every gay dude has to flitter around and have that fake loud lisp talk and be flamboyant. There are gay men out there who are masculine and don't have to pretend to fit into some weird societal stereotype just because they like cock and enjoy the company of other men in adult relationships.
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Lots of people want the mentally ill to not have guns and yet are ok with trannies serving in military with guns. Something isn’t right upstairs if they want to switch genders, so why hold them to different standards.
Lold at thinking about being in combat as a spotter with tranny sniper.
-“Target spotted, in white truck, 400meters out. Oh chit man, dont fire, kids in vehicle.”
“Did you just call me a man? Well fuk you, I thought you werent such a narrow minded person anymore. Im a fukn female now. Gosh ur such an a55hole David.”
Lold at thinking about being in combat as a spotter with tranny sniper.
-“Target spotted, in white truck, 400meters out. Oh chit man, dont fire, kids in vehicle.”
“Did you just call me a man? Well fuk you, I thought you werent such a narrow minded person anymore. Im a fukn female now. Gosh ur such an a55hole David.”
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Originally Posted By tank2003⏩
1, sure they'd "get their own choice." IE bich & moan & cry & whine until they got what they wanted, leaving their DI/TI absolutely clueless & afraid to say or do anything for fear of reprimand. we join to be prepared to defend this country, not spend half of time wondering which stall timmy or tonya is going to use todaywhy in the world would there be any issues with any of these???
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
1. at BCT, females and males get their own designated barracks, i'm sure the trans crowd woul dget their own choice where they want to live
2. Stalls my man. Stalls.
3. LoL what?
4. Its not uncommon to share tents in the field. In the barracks, they are usually dormitory style and co-ed but you dont cohabitate rooms. You may share a suite though
5. ZERO issues here either
6. Hormones are no prohibited in the slightest but they do require an Rx.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
2, yeah & how do you think other legitimate males and females are gonna like having someone if the opposite sex in their while they're doing their business
3, PT Test, as in, PT standards, as in, as soon as one of these TG's cant make it (F to M), this brings up a whole other slew of issues of whether it's "right": to have them run with the males. Of course I say just discharge them then if they can't cut it as the opposite gender
4, different branches have different norms for sharing tents. USAF, we never did. males to one, females to another.
5, you are on drugs if you wont think theyre will be issues with TG's being paired with someone who isn't. Some FOBs & overseas bases have these chithole things called RLB's with two to a room. lets see how another female serving likes being paired with a roommate who actually has a wang
6, not even talking about hormones. Its about being --watched-- which is required for random testing, so whose gonna do it then? whose gonna watch them sit on toilet, a male or female? whose gonna choose? & what about the person watching? what about what they do or dont want to see? f*** no, all across the board.
They want to be TG's, good for them. I literally hope the new them wipes away any depression/mental issues & makes them the happiest people on earth. But taking that lifestyle & making the entire US military conform to it, no, unreasonable.
If you didnt serve then you shouldnt just throw random thoughts into the mix
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
That is going to be hard in high heeled pumps.As long as they can fireman carry me across 50 yards or more
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im sure most soldiers would like it since they could always bang em
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Originally Posted By EasilyBoredBrah⏩
I dont think transexuals should be in the military but this is such a dumb argument. Most people in the military aren't going to see any sort of combat, like a supply officer or anyone on a sub.Lots of people want the mentally ill to not have guns and yet are ok with trannies serving in military with guns. Something isn’t right upstairs if they want to switch genders, so why hold them to different standards.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
This. Letting them in opens the door to so many problems. Dudes who think they’re women are mentally unfit; women who think they’re men are still biologically female and incapable of the strength/physicality demanded of male soldiers. (For the most part; there are always exceptions...)I thought we were trying to keep guns away from the mentally ill?
Not to mention that society is not yet at a point to accept transsexuals— not that I’m advocating it should accept and normalize mental illness. But, at the least, forcing the views of a few politicians on rank-and-file soldiers (who generally have different values and aren’t as “progressive” as the political class) will sow discord in the ranks. Trannies will get hazed and harassed. Some tranny cuck will report it to an officer and there will be Senate hearings and a 60 Minutes special about it. And then there will be deep mistrust between normal and tranny soldiers. This limits the ability of the units to act cohesively as a group. That cohesion and camaraderie is the basis for the military’s efficiency.
Plus soldiers should be focused on more important things than walking on eggshells, being PC, and using “inclusive” and “gender neutral” language on base and in the foxhole.
Best not to let trannies in.
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they don't allow people with mental illnesses in the military so i don't see how this should be any different.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400⏩
So no gays or bisexuals either?No.
I want to sleep in my bed knowing noone will want to rape me
I want to sleep in my bed knowing noone will want to rape me
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Do people know that trannys are already in the military. And I don’t see why they can’t be in the military but not fight and just perform deskwork.
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Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
But then it starts a whole new set of problems. “Trannies can join the military, but can’t be in combat or use weapons because theyre mentally ill. Only ez stuff 4 da tranny.” It is not a dumb argument. Just simply points out the flaws.I dont think transexuals should be in the military but this is such a dumb argument. Most people in the military aren't going to see any sort of combat, like a supply officer or anyone on a sub.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Being gay is the attraction to the same sex, not opposite. I didn't know what sex was but I knew I felt different towards boys than I did with girls. I can't explain it... but that form of attraction never went away no matter how hard I tried. If you ask some straight guy's they'll confirm they felt this way towards girls too even though they didn't know what sex was.I didn't have any inclination that I like to stick my dik in women when I was 4. That is what I am telling you. I had no concept of that at all. I had no concept of being in a relationship with a male or a female either. If you are saying that I fit the role of a typical male at that age naturally, then that would suggest that gender ISN'T a social construct, but something that we were born with. Is that what you are saying?
Yes, being gay is about attraction to the opposite sex, that includes sexual attraction. Not every gay dude has to flitter around and have that fake loud lisp talk and be flamboyant. There are gay men out there who are masculine and don't have to pretend to fit into some weird societal stereotype just because they like cock and enjoy the company of other men in adult relationships.
Yes, being gay is about attraction to the opposite sex, that includes sexual attraction. Not every gay dude has to flitter around and have that fake loud lisp talk and be flamboyant. There are gay men out there who are masculine and don't have to pretend to fit into some weird societal stereotype just because they like cock and enjoy the company of other men in adult relationships.
I had girlfriends and tried to force the attraction to girls but it never worked out unfortunately.
I've made peace with it internally but I'm still not out of the closet, but comparing my self perception today compared to 5 years ago is like night and day. I don't beat myself up for being a **** anymore, but still not willing to share it publicly.
I don't get why you brought up a lisp etc, got nothing to do with what we're talking about. But yeah personally I don't like being around any kind of attention seeker and that includes flamboyant loud ****s.
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