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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
Ahhhh fuk bye!Lou Ferrigno has said that most bodybuilders have/had a dysfunctional relationship with their father. Getting big and freaky is a subconscious atempt to gain some sort of respect or validation or at least attention from their father. Like screaming "Look at me! I'm a man now dad!"
I'd say there's probably some truth to this.
I'd say there's probably some truth to this.
I do have self esteem issues from childhood and beyond is the major reason I gym/run 5 days a week.
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Originally Posted By Sanguivorant⏩
A few things. When I first did the heavy gym thing, I did have body dismorphia. I had a very visible four pack and sharp jaw line, visible veins in my chest and I felt fat at a teen size 4.Thank goodness tbh I thought I was the only one.
I'm not talking about the average gym goers who will go on some machines, run on a treadmill and be gone, I'm talking about dedicated gym goers who spend 10 hours+ a week at the gym, meal prep, and basically plan their whole schedule around lifting. First off, very few normal people dedicate so much time doing the same thing over and over again, so you know that most serious lifters are gonna be on the autism spectrum somewhere.
Body dysmorphia seems to be common among both males and females, for instance. It's really not uncommon to meet people who are in the best shape of their life, and complain that they look like chit, even though they look better naked than over 90% of people.
Met this one guy who is so jacked that his arms will stretch out an oversized hoodie, and he can't wear anything but sweatpants or they will rip. Yet, he has the body language and confidence of a 15 year old, 110 lbs boy, it's quite interesting.
A lot of jacked or strong guys in particular don't know how to socialize, or talking with them feels like a challenge. It seems like the stronger a dude is, the poorer his social skills will be. I feel like for a lot of them, they need to be jacked because it covers their lack of social skills.
Two guys I know at my gym have actually been diagnosed with Asperger's, though they are high-functioning.
As for the girls, the dedicated ones without a doubt have serious insecurity issues once you get to know them. One that I know has insane anger problems. Another that I know lives off of Instagram likes and men admiring her in her revealing outfits, and she'll feel ugly if she doesn't get any of those.
Not hating towards anyone who has mental health problems or people who lift seriously, but it's just something I noticed.
I'm not talking about the average gym goers who will go on some machines, run on a treadmill and be gone, I'm talking about dedicated gym goers who spend 10 hours+ a week at the gym, meal prep, and basically plan their whole schedule around lifting. First off, very few normal people dedicate so much time doing the same thing over and over again, so you know that most serious lifters are gonna be on the autism spectrum somewhere.
Body dysmorphia seems to be common among both males and females, for instance. It's really not uncommon to meet people who are in the best shape of their life, and complain that they look like chit, even though they look better naked than over 90% of people.
Met this one guy who is so jacked that his arms will stretch out an oversized hoodie, and he can't wear anything but sweatpants or they will rip. Yet, he has the body language and confidence of a 15 year old, 110 lbs boy, it's quite interesting.
A lot of jacked or strong guys in particular don't know how to socialize, or talking with them feels like a challenge. It seems like the stronger a dude is, the poorer his social skills will be. I feel like for a lot of them, they need to be jacked because it covers their lack of social skills.
Two guys I know at my gym have actually been diagnosed with Asperger's, though they are high-functioning.
As for the girls, the dedicated ones without a doubt have serious insecurity issues once you get to know them. One that I know has insane anger problems. Another that I know lives off of Instagram likes and men admiring her in her revealing outfits, and she'll feel ugly if she doesn't get any of those.
Not hating towards anyone who has mental health problems or people who lift seriously, but it's just something I noticed.
This time around, I think I can better appreciate my body. I don't have insecurity issues because I am older and wiser and realize I am God's creation and therefore a masterpiece. Self esteem starts with HIM.
I think you make some interesting observations, but think you put the cart before the horse. I think the lifestyle CAUSES the issues, not that people with those issues go to the lifestyle. For example, if you want to have a great body, you go to the gym and work toward it. But then during your quest, you read an article about wider lats and suddenly, that's a thing you think you need to have. Or you feel strong and some dude on tech lifts double what you did and you suddenly feel weak. But certainly, a perfectionistic personality would be more willing than the general population to make the necessary changes to achieve the higher levels of fitness.
Or for us ladies, maybe you look so good you decide to enter a bikini competition. Suddenly you're very lean, toned body seems fat and flat compared to those stage bodies that are teched up and dehydrated to look abnormal.
The key is to stay grounded, appreciate the changes, set your healthy boundaries (no tech, no eating disorders, no figure competitions for me, etc.) and stop comparing yourself to the pros, or those farther along strength-wise.
That's my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted By feminineenergy⏩
u single? add me on yahoo ma lady "ticklygooch69"A few things. When I first did the heavy gym thing, I did have body dismorphia. I had a very visible four pack and sharp jaw line, visible veins in my chest and I felt fat at a teen size 4.
This time around, I think I can better appreciate my body. I don't have insecurity issues because I am older and wiser and realize I am God's creation and therefore a masterpiece. Self esteem starts with HIM.
I think you make some interesting observations, but think you put the cart before the horse. I think the lifestyle CAUSES the issues, not that people with those issues go to the lifestyle. For example, if you want to have a great body, you go to the gym and work toward it. But then during your quest, you read an article about wider lats and suddenly, that's a thing you think you need to have. Or you feel strong and some dude on tech lifts double what you did and you suddenly feel weak. But certainly, a perfectionistic personality would be more willing than the general population to make the necessary changes to achieve the higher levels of fitness.
Or for us ladies, maybe you look so good you decide to enter a bikini competition. Suddenly you're very lean, toned body seems fat and flat compared to those stage bodies that are teched up and dehydrated to look abnormal.
The key is to stay grounded, appreciate the changes, set your healthy boundaries (no tech, no eating disorders, no figure competitions for me, etc.) and stop comparing yourself to the pros, or those farther along strength-wise.
That's my 2 cents.
This time around, I think I can better appreciate my body. I don't have insecurity issues because I am older and wiser and realize I am God's creation and therefore a masterpiece. Self esteem starts with HIM.
I think you make some interesting observations, but think you put the cart before the horse. I think the lifestyle CAUSES the issues, not that people with those issues go to the lifestyle. For example, if you want to have a great body, you go to the gym and work toward it. But then during your quest, you read an article about wider lats and suddenly, that's a thing you think you need to have. Or you feel strong and some dude on tech lifts double what you did and you suddenly feel weak. But certainly, a perfectionistic personality would be more willing than the general population to make the necessary changes to achieve the higher levels of fitness.
Or for us ladies, maybe you look so good you decide to enter a bikini competition. Suddenly you're very lean, toned body seems fat and flat compared to those stage bodies that are teched up and dehydrated to look abnormal.
The key is to stay grounded, appreciate the changes, set your healthy boundaries (no tech, no eating disorders, no figure competitions for me, etc.) and stop comparing yourself to the pros, or those farther along strength-wise.
That's my 2 cents.
03-26-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By wesleysh21⏩
After thinking about it some more, I agree. What we do isn't "normal" behavior. I've just been doing it so long it seems as normal as brushing my teeth. Youre right, there's definitely worse paths I could have gone down.I have an addictive and/or obsessive personality. I choose to use the gym as a healthy outlet for it, but I could have just as easily fell into more destructive versions of wanting to do the same thing over and over again for years on end. I'm so bad that I can put on a song at the beginning of my workout, and just loop it over and over again for the entire hour.
So yes, I agree with OP that I'm not right in the head. But I'm using bodybuilding as a healthy release.
So yes, I agree with OP that I'm not right in the head. But I'm using bodybuilding as a healthy release.
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Originally Posted By INSANEREACH⏩
Roids.Even the one bodybuilder who made it into the mainstream and became a legend had some issues. Arnolds brother died in a car accident and he was on drink and drugs, spent time in mental institutions and a prison in austria. Rumor has it ,he deliberately crashed his car to kill himself. That sort of serious **** tends to run in families. Arnold certainly impulse control issues, when it comes to sex. He was known as a giant douche and massively arrogant when young, and there are all sorts of stories said about him. I know someone who I have no reason to doubt who competed with him and told me how he almost got his head caved in several times for throwing his weight around in gyms in the UK before he moved over to the states. Someone who is like that is covering major insecurities. He fuked that maid, and basically ruined his own image that he had cultivated for years. . And frankly a man in his position can get someone to pull women for him for sex and no one would ever know.Instead he fuked some chubby maid. Those are not the actions of a man who is in complete control. When someone does something and you think WTF in your mind, that is a clear sign someone is a few cans short of a six pack.
And frankly I could write a book on the strangeness amongst some of the members in my gym, a hardcore bodybuilding gym. Not one of them has not cheated on his wife . Two have tried to kill themselves. one by hanging, actually tried to hang himself at home and the wife found him. I have a personality disorder and ptsd and am on a special register with the police due to violence , another guy has serious anger problems even at 50 years old, and threw a man through a shop window for bumping into him in the street,He is now recieving compulsory court ordered anger management counselling. Someone else is a heroin addict. We all have OCD. Yet ours is a gym where peoplecompete in bodybuildingand powerlifting. One guy competes all over the world in powerlifting meets. Another guy cannot go into a crowded place like a bar,last time he went in one he pulled a mans arm out of it's socket for bumping into him.Another guy everyone else thinks is a serial killer,he has been known to bring prostitutes into the gym to fuk them after work,if a woman even smiles at him,he will stalk her. Been to court over it.
And frankly I could write a book on the strangeness amongst some of the members in my gym, a hardcore bodybuilding gym. Not one of them has not cheated on his wife . Two have tried to kill themselves. one by hanging, actually tried to hang himself at home and the wife found him. I have a personality disorder and ptsd and am on a special register with the police due to violence , another guy has serious anger problems even at 50 years old, and threw a man through a shop window for bumping into him in the street,He is now recieving compulsory court ordered anger management counselling. Someone else is a heroin addict. We all have OCD. Yet ours is a gym where peoplecompete in bodybuildingand powerlifting. One guy competes all over the world in powerlifting meets. Another guy cannot go into a crowded place like a bar,last time he went in one he pulled a mans arm out of it's socket for bumping into him.Another guy everyone else thinks is a serial killer,he has been known to bring prostitutes into the gym to fuk them after work,if a woman even smiles at him,he will stalk her. Been to court over it.
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I have been going to the gym atleast 4 times a week for past 4 years straight. My diet sucks and hence my lifts/looks but lifting dedication wise im in there consistently.
I have to agree i have issues. I think very few people grow up having no issues what so ever AND having issues doesnt mean you cant still ACE life in some aspects.
Like i did great in undergrad and am doing masters now with scholarship but yea god knows i have issues. By no means am i normal
I have to agree i have issues. I think very few people grow up having no issues what so ever AND having issues doesnt mean you cant still ACE life in some aspects.
Like i did great in undergrad and am doing masters now with scholarship but yea god knows i have issues. By no means am i normal
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Can confirm have a deep seated monster/energy inside on me I have to release. Played rugby and legit had some bad intentions and can run like an animal, never avoid contact . I stick to swimming and reading now, prefer that over lifting seeing as I donโt play for anyone right now.
03-26-2018, 02:58 PM
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Have to agree,
That being said, everyone goes to the gym these days, but most look like chit or DYEL. If being on the autism spectrum helps with gains/motivation and the sense of a purpose, then so be it, however meaningless it might all be in the grand scheme of things at least serious lifters enjoy the process.
Actually spending time on something and getting nothing out of it like the general gym population you're referring to, is imo even worse. They could have spent that time on an activity they actually enjoy. Instead they choose to spend some of their free time driving to the gym in order to walk on a treadmill at 3mph or benching 135 into infinity.
That being said, everyone goes to the gym these days, but most look like chit or DYEL. If being on the autism spectrum helps with gains/motivation and the sense of a purpose, then so be it, however meaningless it might all be in the grand scheme of things at least serious lifters enjoy the process.
Actually spending time on something and getting nothing out of it like the general gym population you're referring to, is imo even worse. They could have spent that time on an activity they actually enjoy. Instead they choose to spend some of their free time driving to the gym in order to walk on a treadmill at 3mph or benching 135 into infinity.
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I know this talk good looking guy (gym rat) and is insecure af heโs very friendly but in the clubs/bars heโll be standing there smiling thats it lmao
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They are just low self esteem, narcissistic losers. I'm starting to actually hate the lifting life because of what it has become, and how narcissistic it has made me. Just going to the gym makes me narcissistic because of all the egos in there. It's not the same as when i joined this site back in 2010.
I seriously don't understand the hot females that work out there 4 days a week. You would think they would have enough attention to stay away from the gym. Or at least go with other girls.....or go less.
The gym is basically a place for high functioning autistic people and people who have various mental problems. For me the lifestyle itself just added to my problems.
I seriously don't understand the hot females that work out there 4 days a week. You would think they would have enough attention to stay away from the gym. Or at least go with other girls.....or go less.
The gym is basically a place for high functioning autistic people and people who have various mental problems. For me the lifestyle itself just added to my problems.
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Originally Posted By alphatan⏩
I know this talk good looking guy (gym rat) and is insecure af heโs very friendly but in the clubs/bars heโll be standing there smiling thats it lmao
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How do you not become narcissistic when you are bigger and stronger (and probably better looking) than most people though? Most people look horrible compared to anyone who has a couple years of lifting under their belt.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
That's not good buddy..They are just low self esteem, narcissistic losers. I'm starting to actually hate the lifting life because of what it has become, and how narcissistic it has made me. Just going to the gym makes me narcissistic because of all the egos in there. It's not the same as when i joined this site back in 2010.
I seriously don't understand the hot females that work out there 4 days a week. You would think they would have enough attention to stay away from the gym. Or at least go with other girls.....or go less.
The gym is basically a place for high functioning autistic people and people who have various mental problems. For me the lifestyle itself just added to my problems.
I seriously don't understand the hot females that work out there 4 days a week. You would think they would have enough attention to stay away from the gym. Or at least go with other girls.....or go less.
The gym is basically a place for high functioning autistic people and people who have various mental problems. For me the lifestyle itself just added to my problems.
Also normal people look at my dedicated routine and my successful studies and assume that I'm perfectly normal just extra dedicated....Jakes on them because I'm not normal at all and at some point I forced myself to work and gym rather than get sad about my social awkwardness and that in turn made me slightly less awkward.
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Originally Posted By 20Mavs11⏩
lmao, thisI go to look good. Yes I am compensating for lack of 10/10 face and 10/10 money. But lol hard at people who try and train like they're olympic power lifters to never compete.
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currently reduced my gym time to max 3 hours a week - best and leanest shape of my life (100% srs)
But yes, lots of insecurity at the gym.
But yes, lots of insecurity at the gym.
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That's why you just keep **** at home in your basement and do 40 minutes 4 times a week. Solid physique and barely takes up any time/gym cringe
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Lady I used to work with would "compete" in shows and always place last and ****. Her ******** posts were all about being a strong women and tons of hashtags #cantstopme #fearless.
I'm sure many have self esteem and control issues. and like you said, body dysmorphia for sure.
I'm sure many have self esteem and control issues. and like you said, body dysmorphia for sure.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Because narcissism is a result of thinking youre better than you actually are and when the real world doesnt actually care or see you the way you tell yourself they do you develop a complex and start judging and putting everyone down in your mind to rationalize your own superiority. Most people who actually have a great physique develop a sense of pride in it and keep going and theyre confident and know what they are because their real world response reflects their perception of themself. Youve been lifting for 9 years and look like most people do less than a year in, you are not at that point. You just tell yourself you are.How do you not become narcissistic when you are bigger and stronger (and probably better looking) than most people though? Most people look horrible compared to anyone who has a couple years of lifting under their belt.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
By being humble and not a douche bag. Everyone starts somewhere with whatever activity, if you laugh and degrade said people you're a dick whether it be lifting or basket weaving. Stop worrying so much about other people and focus on yourself. When you're trying to point out other people's flaws you're really just insecure/let down with something about yourself in that department.How do you not become narcissistic when you are bigger and stronger (and probably better looking) than most people though? Most people look horrible compared to anyone who has a couple years of lifting under their belt.
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I'm probably sitting at 5 hours per week and i meal prep. Am i on that spectrum time?
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Originally Posted By NLNFunKti0nz⏩
or the srs ones hangout with likeminded people, so their social life supports their lifestyle. my bro has friends where all they do is eat, sleep, lift, meal prep and prep for the next competition. some have their pro cards; the others are trying to get them. they seem to enjoy each other and the lifestyle, except for competition time.Pretty sure the serious lifters take it too seriously to the point where they have to give up their social life (no partying, eating out) just to maintain and make their gains.
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Definitely brah, the gym is really more like a special needs school. All the men are autistic and all the women are ugly and insecure.
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What?
My girlfriend is a member of a running club, and those *******s invest a minimum of 10 hours per week, never mind when they drive 2 hours to do some race.
A lot of hobbies whether it be video games, running, lifting, watching tv takes up time... at least lifting gets you out of the house and keeps you fit.
My girlfriend is a member of a running club, and those *******s invest a minimum of 10 hours per week, never mind when they drive 2 hours to do some race.
A lot of hobbies whether it be video games, running, lifting, watching tv takes up time... at least lifting gets you out of the house and keeps you fit.
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03-26-2018, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I agree with this. I think there are some people that clearly have issues who lift but I just don't see anything wrong or unhealthy with doing something I enjoy, that makes me feel and look good. It's much better than spending those 5-10 hours a week sitting on my ass in front of the tv eating junk.Well if you enjoy lifting and nutrition: how is doing something that you love 10 hrs a week a mental problem?
How about that guy advancing career in lieu of his physical/mental health. brb hiking your stress and blood pressure > damaging your body > not seeing your children
There's non-lifters with aspergers too. Strong myopic focus of peace.
How about that guy advancing career in lieu of his physical/mental health. brb hiking your stress and blood pressure > damaging your body > not seeing your children
There's non-lifters with aspergers too. Strong myopic focus of peace.
Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
This too.By being humble and not a douche bag. Everyone starts somewhere with whatever activity, if you laugh and degrade said people you're a dick whether it be lifting or basket weaving. Stop worrying so much about other people and focus on yourself. When you're trying to point out other people's flaws you're really just insecure/let down with something about yourself in that department.
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