Yeah, it's not that.

This is a neckbeard who brags about having a Dell XPS 15, but doesn't take care of his end around the house. He is, in own words, disappointing. He can fix himself, but he needs to let her go so he can fix himself on his own time and find a compatible woman instead of wasting hers.

Why are people trying to convince OP he's wrong? You're all projecting your own beliefs onto OP, biased opinions.

If he doesn't want kids then he has every right to end the relationship. Better now than waste any more of her time because this is a huge incompatibility issue that can't be negotiated. She's not very bright waiting to discuss this important topic after 3 years. Hopefully she learns a lesson from this.

Why are people trying to convince OP he's wrong? You're all projecting your own beliefs onto OP, biased opinions.

If he doesn't want kids then he has every right to end the relationship. Better now than waste any more of her time because this is a huge incompatibility issue that can't be negotiated. She's not very bright waiting to discuss this important topic after 3 years. Hopefully she learns a lesson from this.

Ok, first off, I (age 30) love my girlfriend (age 27). She super nice, she's caring (cares for me when I'm sick, makes food for me etc), she's a family girl (my family sucks but hers is quite good).
Buuuuuut... She wants a kid (and maybe several of them). We've been together for about 3 years and she would like a kid in the next 2 years. I could see her being a great mother.

Now I'm not sure where I stand on the kid. I'm quite against the idea of having a child for several reasons:

- I had a pretty sucky childhood. My parents beat me a lot, lots of fights in between my parents, no money etc, had to wear same clothes for a whole year in high school. So that traumatized me.
- I'm quite introverted, and I like spending time in front of the computer playing games and watching movies. I'm into nerdy stuff. Formatting my computer and reinstalling windows 10, tweaking it and reinstalling all the programs is great entertainment for me for instance. It's not that I don't enjoy social contact, but mostly only with my girlfriend and over the internet with other people, and maybe going to a social event once or twice a month.
- I know raising a kid is quite hard. Years of sleepless nights, no more alone time, financial drain etc. The possibility of having a handicapped child.

Then again, all the Hallmark moments of having a kid do appeal to me. Spending Christmas together, celebrating birthdays, travelling etc... But I know those come at a cost, namely the above. Also, I'm not sure if I want to go the childfree route my entire life. Maybe I'd regret it.

There are also some key differences between me and my girlfriend:

- She's a quiet girl who's only concern is to enjoy life. She's not into money, career or other superficial stuff. She just wants family time, time with me and time doing fun stuff. I, on the other hand, enjoy a quiet life in which not every weekend involves an activity. She likes to do stuff most of the time.
- I have somewhat of an early retirement and money fetish. I try to save money on everything, but not overdo as to irritate her. We had some big fights about money. She doesn't throw it out the windows, but she doesn't like to skip stuff in favor of saving the money either.
- I can be a lazy bastard most of the time, and I procrastinate doing house chores until the last minute. Of course when she comes home and she sees I haven't done much she's massively disappointed.
- She's not that much into nerdy stuff. She likes watching movies and shows with me, but that's about it. I would like for her to play games with me but I realize that's a very rare trait in a girl.
- I'm quite selfish, she is very selfless.

So wut do misc? It's mostly the kid issue which is breaking my balls.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting kids but that really is something you talk about at some point in a three year relationship rather than reinstalling windows 10 for fun don't you think?

Your post makes you sound like a controlling autistic neckbeard redditor that needs to grow up.

I'm boring as fuk because I like quiet time? That's bullchit.... We never had talks about having kids, she just assumed I wanted them.

Lazy, cheap and introverted. A true trifecta.

OP you have a lot of growing up to do.

Growing up? If OP enjoys doing those things, why should he conform to what you, or anyone else thinks he should do.

There is nothing wrong with a person not having children, on the contrary the world would be much better place if only a small percentage of people had kids. Too many have them for selfish reasons, and don't have the money or time to invest in raising them well.

Nothing wrong with being a man-child, but you cant have it both ways by leading a good girl on.

Ok, first off, I (age 30) love my girlfriend (age 27). She super nice, she's caring (cares for me when I'm sick, makes food for me etc), she's a family girl (my family sucks but hers is quite good).
Buuuuuut... She wants a kid (and maybe several of them). We've been together for about 3 years and she would like a kid in the next 2 years. I could see her being a great mother.

Now I'm not sure where I stand on the kid. I'm quite against the idea of having a child for several reasons:

- I had a pretty sucky childhood. My parents beat me a lot, lots of fights in between my parents, no money etc, had to wear same clothes for a whole year in high school. So that traumatized me.
- I'm quite introverted, and I like spending time in front of the computer playing games and watching movies. I'm into nerdy stuff. Formatting my computer and reinstalling windows 10, tweaking it and reinstalling all the programs is great entertainment for me for instance. It's not that I don't enjoy social contact, but mostly only with my girlfriend and over the internet with other people, and maybe going to a social event once or twice a month.
- I know raising a kid is quite hard. Years of sleepless nights, no more alone time, financial drain etc. The possibility of having a handicapped child.

Then again, all the Hallmark moments of having a kid do appeal to me. Spending Christmas together, celebrating birthdays, travelling etc... But I know those come at a cost, namely the above. Also, I'm not sure if I want to go the childfree route my entire life. Maybe I'd regret it.

There are also some key differences between me and my girlfriend:

- She's a quiet girl who's only concern is to enjoy life. She's not into money, career or other superficial stuff. She just wants family time, time with me and time doing fun stuff. I, on the other hand, enjoy a quiet life in which not every weekend involves an activity. She likes to do stuff most of the time.
- I have somewhat of an early retirement and money fetish. I try to save money on everything, but not overdo as to irritate her. We had some big fights about money. She doesn't throw it out the windows, but she doesn't like to skip stuff in favor of saving the money either.
- I can be a lazy bastard most of the time, and I procrastinate doing house chores until the last minute. Of course when she comes home and she sees I haven't done much she's massively disappointed.
- She's not that much into nerdy stuff. She likes watching movies and shows with me, but that's about it. I would like for her to play games with me but I realize that's a very rare trait in a girl.
- I'm quite selfish, she is very selfless.

So wut do misc? It's mostly the kid issue which is breaking my balls.

Yeah because at 27 years old, her eggs are already dried up. You're dumb, gtfo back to kitchen where you belong. Stupid ass enforcer of stereotypes.

Wanting kids is the default because PEOPLE ARE SHEEP. They don't know any better and just do whatever the fuk everyone else is doing. Wanting kids should NOT be the default. One reason is because a large part of parents should not be parents. But it's the way the world works, unfortunately.