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Ususally a lot of misceres are too blue for my liking, but in this case it seems obvious. What the FUK was this guy thinking?
Probably out of touch from reality, all drugged up
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
alot of them are on drugs yep.Or he was just zonked out of his mind on something. Don't do drugs kids. You might reach for a screwdriver with three cops drawing down on you.
Just run down the suggested videos on YT and you can see these people are clearly deranged.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
This.It's amazing how much liberals love criminals.
Rally around someone who was killed by police that was not a criminal POS and you have my support all day long but that's never the case.....
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
links on proof he wasnt a threat?You have to make SLOW movements when dealing with cops. I haven't had a bad experience but you STILL have to be careful when interacting with law enforcement.
Kid wasn't a threat but when LEO rolls up they don't know that. Plus this was a situation where a kid was stealing something and in another person's home. Sad situation overall.
Kid wasn't a threat but when LEO rolls up they don't know that. Plus this was a situation where a kid was stealing something and in another person's home. Sad situation overall.
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What a moron. Only time my hand ever got stuck in my pocket was when I was trying to pull my phone out. Yeah, he looked like he was trying to pull something out.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
He was going to. i.e. he hasn't done it to this point. i.e. He was always planning to but never did it. i.e. now he broke into somebody's home and got killed. i.e. He was just about to...Another point that I'd like to make - why is it that virtually every single time one of these stories hits the news, the SJW crowd insists that whoever the criminal was that was burglarizing/threatening/assaulting/etc. inoccent people was destined to go to college soon thereafter and join the ranks of elite scholars? The number of people who commit serious crimes such as home invasions that go on to become doctors/engineers/etc. has to be exceptionally low, but we're supposed to believe that all of the criminals from these stories were going to be in the small percentage of exceptions. That nonsensical narrative is getting extremely old and tired.
Disgusting people that defend this chit. I've never broken into somebody's home, but if I ever did, I'd be scared to death that I might get killed in the process.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Likely drugs were in play, it's hard to make out but you can see the guys facial expression at 32 seconds or at the second camera at the end, dude looks deranged.Or he was just zonked out of his mind on something. Don't do drugs kids. You might reach for a screwdriver with three cops drawing down on you.
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Almost looks like he intentionally makes it look like he is pulling a gun to get shot honestly.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Yup completely agree.Used to say the same but like I said, some of these guys are hoping the cop ends their lives.
Probably severely depressed, wanted to burgle but if he gets caught; eat bullets instead of going to jail.
Probably severely depressed, wanted to burgle but if he gets caught; eat bullets instead of going to jail.
Its too bad really.
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Originally Posted By PatheticPeter⏩
hold up I'm gathering funding for a randomized controlled trial.links on proof he wasnt a threat?
Originally Posted By sardis3207⏩
It's always the same, they appear calm but just flat out ignore police orders, then get capped. Saw a couple dozen videos of the same thing the other day.Yup completely agree.
Its too bad really.
Its too bad really.
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LOL at homeowner calling the po-po. Some one breaks into my home.. I don't need the po-po to do the deed.
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If a cop has me in his sights and my hand is in my pockets. I'm going to very calmly say I have nothing in my hands, and I'm going to slowly take them out, palms open, to show the officer, while slowly raising them high. Sudden movements do not mix with a trigger finger of any sort, twitchy or not.
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I don't normally agree with these types of executions, but cops were right to take action on this one. Dude made a questionable move. I have a question for you misc brahs tho.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
It really is an odd way to commit suicide. Whatever happened to ropes and bridges? lolalot of them are on drugs yep.
Just run down the suggested videos on YT and you can see these people are clearly deranged.
Just run down the suggested videos on YT and you can see these people are clearly deranged.
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Liberal detected.Felons can’t vote dipchit. Try again.
Kind of an accurate argument though lmao.
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Originally Posted By IH8RICE⏩
Not all convicted criminals are felons dip****. Try again.Felons can’t vote dipchit. Try again.
Many more get away with their crimes, or take plea bargain after plea bargain and stay on the street.
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Originally Posted By Liftingamer90⏩
because the next time when a guy has a gun the cop might end up dead, going for a leg while the other guy shoots to kill the cop.. plus people with blades can still sometimes close and deliver a fatal blow even after taking shots, especially if on drugsI don't normally agree with these types of executions, but cops were right to take action on this one. Dude made a questionable move. I have a question for you misc brahs tho.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
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Originally Posted By Liftingamer90⏩
Always shoot to kill. If they tried to shoot his leg, too many unknowns open up. What if they miss and kill him anyway? What if they shoot a majory artery and he bleeds out? What if they shot his spine and he ends up paralyzed? What if he is still able to take out a gun and shoot an officer? Its just too difficult to shoot to disarm.I don't normally agree with these types of executions, but cops were right to take action on this one. Dude made a questionable move. I have a question for you misc brahs tho.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
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Originally Posted By Liftingamer90⏩
I agree with you. They should have shot the screwdriver out of his pocket.I don't normally agree with these types of executions, but cops were right to take action on this one. Dude made a questionable move. I have a question for you misc brahs tho.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
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Originally Posted By sardis3207⏩
Far from it. Look at my post above. I’ve taken so many damn test and I’ve been Centrist almost every time. I feel like I lean more conservative though and on most of these shooting threads, I almost always go with the cops because it’s always some sketchy **** that goes on and after we get the perps records...we’ll you know. I’m implying fastback(like many others) was using this thread and the overwhelming responses against the black perp to take a jab at blacks.Liberal detected.
Kind of an accurate argument though lmao.
Kind of an accurate argument though lmao.
Originally Posted By FastBack6⏩
You know what you meant when you said it you fukboi.Not all convicted criminals are felons dip****. Try again.
Many more get away with their crimes, or take plea bargain after plea bargain and stay on the street.
Many more get away with their crimes, or take plea bargain after plea bargain and stay on the street.
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Originally Posted By Liftingamer90⏩
It doesn't matter how many cops there are, they have to protect themselves... and each other. Shooting someone in the arm, shoulder, etc isn't a guarantee to stop the person. Neither is a taser, frankly. Plenty of times people, especially when they're on drugs, can take a bullet or two or a taser, and move forward still.I don't normally agree with these types of executions, but cops were right to take action on this one. Dude made a questionable move. I have a question for you misc brahs tho.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
When there are 3+ cops surrounding a criminal why do they immediately go for fatal shots without even seeing a weapon? I understand officers need to protect themselves but there's 3 officers with guns already drawn. Can they not aim for shoulders/arms/legs or setup a taser shot? The cops already had their weapons drawn and the kid had nothing aimed at them from the video. It wasn't even clear if he was armed or not. From the articles I found, kid only had a screwdriver. Officers are supposed to be trained to handle situations like this instead of just fear for their lives and shoot to kill in every questionable situation. That's what a civilian would do.
Before the misc tears me a new one, I'm not saying the kid didn't **** up. Clearly he ****ed up by not following any instructions given to him. But you're telling me 3 of our trained officers of the law needed to be afraid of some 17 year old with no drawn firearm while they all had their guns pointed at him? From the video the cop on the right was plenty close to shoot his taser at the kid and be done with the whole situation.
A lot of you bruhs say you'd do the same thing and I understand that, you're civilians. I always thought cops are supposed to be better than that though and learn to de-escalate situations. Even if the criminal isn't compliant.
Would like serious replies please.
It wasn't clear he was armed or not, but the cops don't know that. You break into someone's house, it's reasonable to think you're armed and dangerous.
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Originally Posted By Tuksonrider⏩
Thing is if the homeowner shot him instead of the cops this outrage would not exist. Utah is a castle law stateLOL at homeowner calling the po-po. Some one breaks into my home.. I don't need the po-po to do the deed.
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