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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
Since the original 6 avengers are still alive. And theres 6 stones.

What if they sacrifice themselves next movie to undo thanos's doing.
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Originally Posted By waytoodeep03
Just saw it

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Dr strange was Alpha in this movie.
Dr. Strange gave Thanos some trouble. It seems like Dr. Strange is easily one of the most powerful characters. I think without the Gauntlet Thanos would have a really tough time.
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Originally Posted By havoc713
He isn’t pure sociopathic, evil. He believes he is in the right and saving the universe. He’s just crazy. He legit loved his daughter but killed her anyway. He let Starlord live initially because he had guts. When he was tossing fools at the end left and right, he wasn’t using excessive force.

Sort of like how Magneto wanted equal right for mutants but was more militant about it. All the best villains are heroes in their own minds and just differ ideologically from the heroes.

Best Marvel villain to date, since they don’t own Magneto yet.
Right on
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Originally Posted By iloveus
I was watching the special features on the Blu-Ray for the first Iron Man movie(2008) and he was talking about how he was so excited to be playing as Iron Man and he was talking about turning it into a long-term franchise and playing the character forever.
Hugo Weaving (who originally played Red Skull) basically said that superhero movies were "beneath him" and shallow and had no interest in returning for the part, but you don't see Disney putting that interview on a DVD release of Captain America. If an actor is sharing those feelings it will be behind the scenes, or during interviews in foreign countries where they don't think anyone is paying attention lol.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
Hugo Weaving (who originally played Red Skull) basically said that superhero movies were "beneath him" and shallow and had no interest in returning for the part, but you don't see Disney putting that interview on a DVD release of Captain America. If an actor is sharing those feelings it will be behind the scenes, or during interviews in foreign countries where they don't think anyone is paying attention lol.
Hugo Weaving has never returned to play the part.
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Where was Adam Warlock?

I thought Thanos' voice was too bland. Normally, I hate abnormally deep voices for villains because I think it's anti-male, but in this case he sounded too conversationally normal.

Those are my only complaints.

In the comics, Thanos wins and juust gets bored with having won. It's like in the old days of videogames where you could use cheat codes to get through a game. It's tempting to use them but when you do, the game is no longer fun.

Thanos just gives up in the end.

If they're going that direction, I wish they would have shown him altering reality more, not just killing people.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Where was Adam Warlock?

I thought Thanos' voice was too bland. Normally, I hate abnormally deep voices for villains because I think it's anti-male, but in this case he sounded too conversationally normal.

Those are my only complaints.

In the comics, Thanos wins and juust gets bored with having won. It's like in the old days of videogames where you could use cheat codes to get through a game. It's tempting to use them but when you do, the game is no longer fun.

Thanos just gives up in the end.

If they're going that direction, I wish they would have shown him altering reality more, not just killing people.
Adam Warlock prob won't appear till GOTG 3.
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Hugo Weaving has never returned to play the part.
I know.

There was never an official interview of him saying"yeah i'm done with the role"He was just quietly re-casted.
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Originally Posted By TheAdlerian
Where was Adam Warlock?

I thought Thanos' voice was too bland. Normally, I hate abnormally deep voices for villains because I think it's anti-male, but in this case he sounded too conversationally normal.

Those are my only complaints.

In the comics, Thanos wins and juust gets bored with having won. It's like in the old days of videogames where you could use cheat codes to get through a game. It's tempting to use them but when you do, the game is no longer fun.

Thanos just gives up in the end.

If they're going that direction, I wish they would have shown him altering reality more, not just killing people.
Adam Warlock will be the villian for GOTG Vol 3. It was teased at the end of GOTG Vol 2
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Originally Posted By Manletbolic
Since the original 6 avengers are still alive. And theres 6 stones.

What if they sacrifice themselves next movie to undo thanos's doing.
I don't think all six of them will die, but each of them will use their powers to target a specific infinity stone, as it's similar to what happens in the comics. At least, I believe that is what will happen. I think a few of them will stay perma-dead, but I can't see Marvel killing off all six.
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Originally Posted By iloveus
Adam Warlock will be the villian for GOTG Vol 3. It was teased at the end of GOTG Vol 2
Thought he was a good guy?
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10/10 movie

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Just think, the only reason Thanos is evil is because he was born a mutant Timothy and was rejected by people and his family.

This movie is indirectly showing that the only way of living a great life is to be a Chad
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Originally Posted By havoc713
He isn’t pure sociopathic, evil. He believes he is in the right and saving the universe. He’s just crazy. He legit loved his daughter but killed her anyway. He let Starlord live initially because he had guts. When he was tossing fools at the end left and right, he wasn’t using excessive force.

Sort of like how Magneto wanted equal right for mutants but was more militant about it. All the best villains are heroes in their own minds and just differ ideologically from the heroes.

Best Marvel villain to date, since they don’t own Magneto yet.
This x 1000.

It’s why he is such an amazing character.

When you think about it, the only time he purposely kills people is when he is trying to accomplish his goal of taking out 50% of a population. Outside of that, he never really used excessive force. I don’t think he even really started any of the fights. He only fought back when the heroes attacked him. Yeah, he is the mad titan but he truly believes he is doing the right thing. He isn’t just evil for the sake of being evil.

Thanos is hands down the best MCU villain but he may very well be the best character too.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
This x 1000.

It’s why he is such an amazing character.

When you think about it, the only time he purposely kills people is when he is trying to accomplish his goal of taking out 50% of a population. Outside of that, he never really used excessive force. I don’t think he even really started any of the fights. He only fought back when the heroes attacked him. Yeah, he is the mad titan but he truly believes he is doing the right thing. He isn’t just evil for the sake of being evil.

Thanos is hands down the best MCU villain but he may very well be the best character too.
What about killing all of the other dwarves? 300 or so IIRC, leaving just Tyrion. Why?

Otherwise yes, absolutely, he makes sense and you can easily see and understand his point of view and actions and even that he believes he is doing right.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
What about killing all of the other dwarves? 300 or so IIRC, leaving just Tyrion. Why?

Otherwise yes, absolutely, he makes sense and you can easily see and understand his point of view and actions and even that he believes he is doing right.
You got me there if we just take what Tyrion said at face value. No reason not to believe him. Maybe they initially resisted but who knows?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
What about killing all of the other dwarves? 300 or so IIRC, leaving just Tyrion. Why?

Otherwise yes, absolutely, he makes sense and you can easily see and understand his point of view and actions and even that he believes he is doing right.
It was means to an end to accomplish his goal. Cant have anyone interfering.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
It was means to an end to accomplish his goal. Cant have anyone interfering.
Why would he need to kill the dwarves to accomplish his goal?
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
Why would he need to kill the dwarves to accomplish his goal?
Maybe doesn't want another gauntlet ever getting made?
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah
Just think, the only reason Thanos is evil is because he was born a mutant Timothy and was rejected by people and his family.

This movie is indirectly showing that the only way of living a great life is to be a Chad
Captain America is all about how great it is to turn a timonthy into a Chad. His life took a huge 180 when he became a Chad
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Originally Posted By Meralus
I don't think all six of them will die, but each of them will use their powers to target a specific infinity stone, as it's similar to what happens in the comics. At least, I believe that is what will happen. I think a few of them will stay perma-dead, but I can't see Marvel killing off all six.
Still leaves the question of who on the team could even use the gems. It takes a super-powerful being to not get f’ed up by a single gem (it took somebody strong liks Ronan, or all of the Guardians working together to use the Power gem without dying; Red Skull bit it straight away trying to use the Space gem).

Maybe it’s all in the device used? It seems like a device is needed to harness the power (e.g. the Gauntlet, or Loki’s staff). Maybe they make a “gauntlet” suit of armor for Tony, but it kills him?

If we don’t get a scene of Hawkeye using Yondu’s arrow at some point, I’m gonna be pissed.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
It was means to an end to accomplish his goal. Cant have anyone interfering.
Again, the Avengers heavily interfered, but he didn’t just nuke them instantly with the power stone.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
This x 1000.

It’s why he is such an amazing character.

When you think about it, the only time he purposely kills people is when he is trying to accomplish his goal of taking out 50% of a population. Outside of that, he never really used excessive force. I don’t think he even really started any of the fights. He only fought back when the heroes attacked him. Yeah, he is the mad titan but he truly believes he is doing the right thing. He isn’t just evil for the sake of being evil.

Thanos is hands down the best MCU villain but he may very well be the best character too.
Eh. I don't think that Thanos is the best villain here. His motivation is unintelligent and childish at best. Just like a miscer said above, why not just create enough resources for the universes. Why not just create another universe and put the extra people in that to start anew. It creates to many flaws and holes. Even now. People are multiplying for a reason, Thanos would need to do this again in a few decades. Then again after that. It's a cycle since he isn't fixing the main problem, reproduction.

His comic book version though. It's simple. He wants to wed Death, and she wants deaths to make her happy. So he needs the ultimate power to achieve that. She is petty and selfish like any woman and even after he does all of this, she still doesn't talk to him. Driving him even more desperate and madder.

IMO. Zemo was the best villain in the MCU. Because he was just a regular man, a father. Then he turned the greatest force on earth agasint each other with his rage towards them. He had a motivation that most of us can relate to, while Thanos doesn't. Zemo defeated the Avengers and poisoned them from barely lifting a finger or using a stone. His destruction still lasts until today, while Thanos ash deaths will just come back next movie.

Thanos in the MCU is a fun character because he gives us what we want to see. Destruction and heroes dying. I have a hard time saying that he is the best one though.
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Originally Posted By Avalanche3319
Again, the Avengers heavily interfered, but he didn’t just nuke them instantly with the power stone.
He killed the dwarves back when he had no stones. They said somebody with two stones is almost undefeatable. By the time he fought the Avengers, he had 4 (then 5, then 6). He simply didn’t need to kill individuals at that point.
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah
Just think, the only reason Thanos is evil is because he was born a mutant Timothy and was rejected by people and his family.

This movie is indirectly showing that the only way of living a great life is to be a Chad
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Originally Posted By Wazooty
Maybe doesn't want another gauntlet ever getting made?
So that's why he left Tyrion alive...and clearly left the capability of the forge being used
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I still think Thanos' motivations make no sense. What good does killing half the lifeforms do? In one doubling period, things will return exactly where they were. It's a temporary solution to a permanent problem, which nature has already solved. As populations approach carrying capacity, the resources that help them grow become more scarce and they die more often and reproduce less frequently, and the populations just remain near carrying capacity. They don't just go extinct outright. When all resources are exhausted, then yes, life would go extinct, but Thanos hasn't solved that problem. He needs to go around every doubling time for each population and cull half then. That's just dumb. The extinction of life is inevitable, and Thanos should know that. This kind of thing is why it is hard to enjoy movies anymore. The writers didn't really think it through. I think they should have stuck with comic book Thanos' romantic motivations toward Mistress Death.
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Don't forget that Thanos has his psychological issues, so his motivations are certainly fueled by his obsessive thoughts.
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Originally Posted By TunaTunaTuna
He killed the dwarves back when he had no stones. They said somebody with two stones is almost undefeatable. By the time he fought the Avengers, he had 4 (then 5, then 6). He simply didn’t need to kill individuals at that point.
I’d buy that until they very nearly got the gauntlet off his hand. After that there’s no reason he would screw around.
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