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It seems like everyone ITT assumes he jumped into the enclosure to be a jackass. It says he's the park owner, wouldn't they have to enter the enclosure every now and then?

And let's be cereal....if your friend or family member jumped into the enclosure even out of stupidity, you're putting that lion down if you have the chance. Come on brahs.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
LOL at these holier than thou ***gots. If you want to talk logic then he entered the enclosure knowing good and well the dangers he could face. He knows the potential risk for both he and the animals he cares about. You do realize that enclosures have separate feeding areas that lock the animal away from the rest of the space, right? Imagine putting the lion into that space and inspecting what he went for the first time.
Sorry to ruin your "play stupid games win stupid prizes" thread, but maybe you should read the full article, as well as the other helpful comments ITT
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Yeah let's take a captive born lion who's only ever been fed by humans and turn him loose in the wild. Did you even think about that before hitting the post button?
Look at what he did to the man,tgat says it all
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
lmao @ how 3.5% of miscers actually read the article and didn't just get angry and jump to conclusions...
Read the article. He's still a dumb ******* for the way he tried to handle the situation and would rather see him dead for his stupidity than the lion which was just being a lion.

Hope the next lion bites harder.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Even if theyre a complete idiot, human life should always be prioritised
Negged. Poor lion. Already has to live in a fuking cage.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
Nah. You know exactly what you're getting into if you walk into a lion enclosure. Let him die.
I agree, a human just by virtue of being a human isn't worth more than any other animal.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
You're right for the most part, and in this situation you are right

Don't know why people are hating on your comment

By their logic, a woman dressed casually or gay man visiting an extreme Islamic country deserve to be stoned to death... according to their logic, the person was too dumb to visit such a country. And they're right that such a person would be making a mistake to visit such a country, BUT... that person does not deserve to be stoned to death

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I can think of cases where it's right to not defend a human over an animal, but this case is not one of them. It's scary to think how some other humans think
In your analogy the only party being harmed is the gay person in the Islamic country. So the logic is dumb person goofs -> dumb person suffers. We can all agree this person doesn't deserve to die.

Here, the lion had to be killed because of the man's poor judgement. Dumb person goofs -> innocent animal suffers. The dumb person still doesn'tdeserveto die, but he deserves it more than the lion.

I'm not even necessarily taking this position, I just don't think it was a fair comparison.
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Originally Posted By GolfPants⏩
In your analogy the only party being harmed is the gay person in the Islamic country. So the logic is dumb person goofs -> dumb person suffers. We can all agree this person doesn't deserve to die.

Here, the lion had to be killed because of the man's poor judgement. Dumb person goofs -> innocent animal suffers. The dumb person still doesn'tdeserveto die, but he deserves it more than the lion.

I'm not even necessarily taking this position, I just don't think it was a fair comparison.
I see what you're saying.

If a 5 year old child wandered into the lions den, and the lion was about to kill the child... should we let it be?

With your reasoning Dumb child goofs > innocent animal suffers. The dumb child doesn't deserve to die, but deserves it more than the lion
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Originally Posted By LukeS1⏩
Even if theyre a complete idiot, human life should always be prioritised
This. I'd have no reservations about shooting the lion. Sry brah. Humans are more related to me than lions.
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
I see what you're saying.

If a 5 year old child wandered into the lions den, and the lion was about to kill the child... should we let it be?

With your reasoning Dumb child goofs > innocent animal suffers. The dumb child doesn't deserve to die, but deserves it more than the lion
Does a 5 year old child have the same capacity for reason as a grown man?
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Originally Posted By GolfPants⏩
Does a 5 year old child have the same capacity for reason as a grown man?
Right, was expecting you to say that... but a dumb man does not have good capacity for reason either

Let's go right to the extreme, would you allow a retarded adult man who wandered into the lions to get eaten by the lion, rather than shooting the lion?
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
For the record, lions are famously tame around people they know (they are pack animals). As far as big cats go, lions (along with cheetahs) are considered the safest and most predictable. He had probably been in that enclosure hundreds of times without issue. There are thousands of lions who receive daily human interaction and have never hurt anyone. He took a risk and that lion paid the ultimate price, but clearly he's not some yahoo off the street who jumped in there.

This guy made these animals his life so he obviously cares a great deal about them. He will be haunted by this incident for the rest of his days. Chill out with the insults and wishing him death. You *******s sound like a bunch of bloodthirsty redditors, unable to grasp nuance.
This is only partly true. Yes, lions are social cats and along with Cheetahs are the only (big) wild cats you can truly build a social relationship with in which you can completely trust the cat and the cat completely trusts you.

However this is only the case if a lion comes into your care before the age of 2 to 3, and you socialize with them intensively on a day by day basis. If you do this successfully the lion(s) will trust you completely and consider you part of their pride. No matter what kind of posture you take (low on the ground, back turned etc.) they'll never attack. However, male lions from age 3 to 4 may attempt to challenge your authority and its important to be aware of this and remain dominant. Again, if you make it through this you wont have any issues anymore with the lion.

However a lion above that age, or if you failed to socialize with it in sufficient manner at a young age, will never trust you or consider you family. No matters how intensively you work with it, it might tolerate you, but it could also attack you at any given point. An adult lion will not accept any new humans. Even if it tolerates your presence, if you show weakness it will attack.

Judging by the video the man clearly does not trust the lion, and since the lion attacked him it's clear to say this lion has not been in his care from a young age. The fact that the man started running only triggered further prey response in the lion which lead to the attack. Had the man remained in position or even moved forward towards the lion an attack could perhaps been prevented, but by running he sealed his and the lions fate. With his experience he should have known better, or maybe he despite working with lions lacked the knowledge or thought it wasn't applicable to him and his situation was special. Whatever the case, the blame lies solely with this old man.
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I understand he is the owner of the Park , However, WHAT THE HELL DID HE THINK WOULD HAPPEN?!?! As if the lion was going to be , “Oh it’s cool your the owner, what’s good bro?”
As if , owner of park could even think he could outrun a lion.
Owner of park should have thought this thru a lot better like seclude / isolate lion ...then investigate smell without the threat. Common sense goes along way.
RIP lion for doing “lion things”.
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
I understand he is the owner of the Park , However, WHAT THE HELL DID HE THINK WOULD HAPPEN?!?! As if the lion was going to be , “Oh it’s cool your the owner, what’s good bro?”
As if , owner of park could even think he could outrun a lion.
Owner of park should have thought this thru a lot better like seclude / isolate lion ...then investigate smell without the threat. Common sense goes along way.
RIP lion for doing “lion things”.
Sometimes people speed on the highway, and sometimes as a result, they crash and die

Sometimes people have a lapse in judgement, this guy was probably around wild life his entire life, and one day, for one moment, he made a bad judgement call, for a split second... or seconds... maybe he wasn't even thinking about it, then this happened

If he did sit down and think about it, obviously he would have done otherwise, he didn't, mistakes were made... i'm sure he regrets that fact, i'm sure he regrets the lion is dead... but i'm still shooting the lion all day long, because a man was careless for a moment... it is a shame the lion had to die, but letting a man die in this case is just not a good choice between these 2 ****ty choices that can be made
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
Sometimes people speed on the highway, and sometimes as a result, they crash and die

Sometimes people have a lapse in judgement, this guy was probably around wild life his entire life, and one day, for one moment, he made a bad judgement call, for a split second... or seconds... maybe he wasn't even thinking about it, then this happened

If he did sit down and think about it, obviously he would have done otherwise, he didn't, mistakes were made... i'm sure he regrets that fact, i'm sure he regrets the lion is dead... but i'm still shooting the lion all day long, because a man was careless for a moment... it is a shame the lion had to die, but letting a man die in this case is just not a good choice between these 2 ****ty choices that can be made
I ride motorcycles on the highway and take risk all the time. I also wear helmets and gear all the time unlike some of the “invincible” squids in my state do. My gear has saved me more than once because common sense. That being said, I don’t have any deep issues with shooting the lion as I would have done the same, no way in hell could i stand by a human getting mauled to death and do nada about it.
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Why do they have to put the lion down for doing lion things?
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This fool really thought, “hey buddy go distract the lion while I slip in all stealthy to investigate a smell and if I feel the lion gets aggressive I will just outrun him back to the gate.” Yeah, NO!
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
Why do they have to put the lion down for doing lion things?
Why lock up a serial rapist for raping people?... just a serial rapist doing serial rapist things, it's in his nature, isn't it? Just doing what he does, let him be...
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autist miscers are incredibly soft when it comes to animal topics, but what would you expect from a bunch of internet dweebs whos only friends are their dog and their computer
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Those people shouting are annoying AF
Probably a friend or some relation to him. I think a lot of people would do the same.
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Originally Posted By RICHSTRONG⏩
According to the article they were gonna put the Lion down for fuking up the old man. A lion do what a lion gonna do. Poor lion
They should put the old man down for fukn with the buff kitty
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
Why lock up a serial rapist for raping people?... just a serial rapist doing serial rapist things, it's in his nature, isn't it? Just doing what he does, let him be...
Do you call animal control because your dog humps strangers like you'd call police if a human did the same thing? If no, why not?
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential⏩
Right, was expecting you to say that... but a dumb man does not have good capacity for reason either

Let's go right to the extreme, would you allow a retarded adult man who wandered into the lions to get eaten by the lion, rather than shooting the lion?
No I would not. And a retarded man is no different than a child in this scenario.

The man in the video is not retarded. He is a grown man of sound mind who is perfectly capable of coming to the conclusion that he should not walk into a lion enclosure when it is alert and 50 feet away from him.

As I said in my first post, I'm not even taking the 'fuk this guy' position. I'd probably kill the lion if someone I hated wandered in there. I just think you're being disingenuous in your analogies.
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Marakele Predator Park was established in 2010 by Mike and Chrissy Hodge after they emigrated from the UK, according to its website.

They moved to South Africa in 1999 and started a lion conservation project in 2003 on a farm 30kms from Thabazimbi.
Dude has probably saved hundreds of lions in his life and has probably had to take many risks in his time. Should he have been reckless like this? No. Would I still shoot that lion? Absolutely.

Dude seemed happy to LDAR and probably wouldn't have wanted the lion to be put down either. It is what it is though. Human life comes first.
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Originally Posted By GolfPants⏩
No I would not. And a retarded man is no different than a child in this scenario.

The man in the video is not retarded. He is a grown man of sound mind who is perfectly capable of coming to the conclusion that he should not walk into a lion enclosure when it is alert and 50 feet away from him.

As I said in my first post, I'm not even taking the 'fuk this guy' position. I'd probably kill the lion if someone I hated wandered in there. I just think you're being disingenuous in your analogies.
Yeah, wasn't saying that he, specifically, isn't of sound mind, was just an example to show a point. Obviously i'm sure he knows he fuked up and made a poor choice... and maybe my initial analogy wasn't good, didn't put too much thought into it, could probably come up with a better one... but yeah, just trying to show others how, by most forms of reasoning/ethics that most people have in society, that killing the lion to save the man in this case is the right choice. Like a sociopath who has no sense of ethics could just say "Doesn't matter what choice we choose, fuk the old man, and fuk the lion", and well, it's not a false statement to say... but most of us follow a similar code of ethics, and if thought about enough, it's clear that the human in this situation should always get saved.

And someone could have a set of ethics where they value the life of lions over human life, regardless of situation, but I think those types of people are very rare, and, not people I'd want to be around... who knows what other crazy values they hold. And it's probably a case of people ITT just saying they wouldn't kill the lion to save the human, but in reality, they would save the human, but like being edgy or whatever. Or maybe they actually would not kill the lion to save the human in this case, but I think their minds could be changed if they really thought about it deeply.
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Typical gun owner. No balls to go in the cage even though he has a gun. Pathetic, I wish the lion would of put the death lock on the guys throat he deserved it. That poosy with the gun to. And that **** crying for someone to get a rifle instead of getting it himself.
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