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post 1552569781 05-28-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaThanU
even if it were good, star wars will be destroyed by saturation alone. Nostalgia works when its in the past.
this is a bs argument, marvel has a movie almost every 3 months out now. If star wars movies were good like the below they would break all time records, tfa was a chit movie with a chitty charachter named rey. They phucked up by making her so over powered, of course the sequel was going to be horrible.

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Last Jedi was a blatant attack on everything the original trilogy stood for. And anyone who criticized the simultaneous ham-fisted social justice pandering, and the middle finger given to fans (specifically the evil white straight ones who are evil but most disgusting of all, are WHITE!) was then attacked as some sort of racist or sexist. It's this weird cultural thought policing going on.

Also, it's funny how hipsters stopped loving obscure sh!t, and have now started to love anything that gets a negative reception. They'll attack anyone who doesn't fall in line with emojis and smug personal attacks, not realizing they are sheep, part of an ideological cult that is replacing religion with identity politics.

Compare that to Cobra Kai, which got an overwhelmingly positive after honoring the messages from the original, expanding on them (oh wow, the villain is actually a hero too) and respecting both the fans intelligence and their brand loyalty with WELL-DONE nostalgia.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
Last Jedi was a blatant attack on everything the original trilogy stood for. And anyone who criticized the simultaneous ham-fisted social justice pandering, and the middle finger given to fans (specifically the evil white straight ones who are evil but most disgusting of all, are WHITE!) was then attacked as some sort of racist or sexist. It's this weird cultural thought policing going on.

Also, it's funny how hipsters stopped loving obscure sh!t, and have now started to love anything that gets a negative reception. They'll attack anyone who doesn't fall in line with emojis and smug personal attacks, not realizing they are sheep, part of an ideological cult that is replacing religion with identity politics.

Compare that to Cobra Kai, which got an overwhelmingly positive after honoring the messages from the original, expanding on them (oh wow, the villain is actually a hero too) and respecting both the fans intelligence and their brand loyalty with WELL-DONE nostalgia.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
such as?
Did you watch it? If not, major spoilers;

Spoiler!
Lando's robot sidekick (L3) is portrayed as an activist robot. "SHE" kinda talks like she's a sassy black women and all she does is whine and bitch about oppression of robots from the "flesh beings", everything is about liberation and "fight the power" with her character. Then the supposed antagonist/rival to Solo and the gang is a group of masked pirates. When the leader takes "HER" mask off she's some mixed race little girl thats no older than 15. They kinda pulled a kylo ren and made her voice sound deep and intimidating, but she was just a girl who bested a grown ass man (Woody Harrelsons character) in weapons combat during a heist scene earlier in the film.
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Originally Posted By BetaThanU
even if it were good, star wars will be destroyed by saturation alone. Nostalgia works when its in the past.
It's not saturation, Marvel releases like 2-3 movies a year and their most recent hit just exploded and outperformed everything. They just need to make movies that please a world wide audience better.
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http://variety.com/2017/film/news/st...ed-1202473919/

Basically she micromanages people and injects her own vision of what Star Wars should be into the series. Fuking bitch ruined Star Wars. Her previous directors tried to tell her it would suck so she axed them.

Just fire that roastie and bring in someone with a clue.
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They need to get rid of Kathleen Kennedy.

She doesn’t respect the material. Also way too SJW. I don’t care if the cast is diverse, there should be aliens everywhere anyway, but that shouldn’t be the “point”. It is like every film purposely just hires people to stand there and be like “look how diverse we are”. Write three-dimensional characters, not empty tokens with no charisma.

There are no good male or female characters.

All the female characters have the personality of a plastic cup and are just perfect at everything for no reason. And the guys are all useless.

Get someone who actually likes Star Wars and has a talent for story-telling to run this franchise.
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Originally Posted By havoc713
They need to get rid of Kathleen Kennedy.

She doesn’t respect the material. Also way too SJW. I don’t care if the cast is diverse, there should be aliens everywhere anyway, but that shouldn’t be the “point”. It is like every film purposely just hires people to stand there and be like “look how diverse we are”. Write three-dimensional characters, not empty tokens with no charisma.

There are no good male or female characters.

All the female characters have the personality of a plastic cup and are just perfect at everything for no reason. And the guys are all useless.

Get someone who actually likes Star Wars and has a talent for story-telling to run this franchise.
I wonder if Disney is going to figure out that people don't want her vision of Star Wars. Episode IX comes out December of 2019 so they have some time to think this over.
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Not that I like all these reality shows on TV, but I did read an article about some "doctor" whinging about "Love Island". Guess what the complaints were? "Unrealistic body image", basically they think showing fit sexy humans is a poor representation to kids lol. Yes it's fat acceptance. It gets worse, the show had the AUDACITY to have a full white cast in a predominately white country. Yes, this SJW doctor actually got racial, saying "where is the diversity, why are they all white". Blatant disdain yet it's fuking acceptable. So what if they are all white? Who the fuk has the right to force producers to fit a diversity quota? Why are white countries not even allowed to have a movie/tv series of an all white cast without backlash?

It's fuking absurd. "Slammed by media for lack of diversity". It's this political bullsh*t that's ruining everything. The same "doctor" starts going on how there isn't a strong LGBT presence in the show. Now we can't even have a show that has all straight people? They do realize most humans are straight right? This is what a I mean, people are being bullied to artificially alter every movie/tv show to appease these fuking idiots. They love their strawman too, one even said "There is an issue with domestic violence in this country" and that these fit males getting to "pick" women somehow is helping this problem? LOL, even the females get to pick as well. They make no absolute sense, they just destroy franchises and Western society lets them get away with it. What's worse is they can bad mouth white people publicly and they don't get checked for it. Imagine if the situation was reversed.

Star Wars outside of the politics just has completely ruined the plot-line. It isn't Star Wars, it's just a name now. Nothing in it makes sense, don't expect anything decent to ever come from this franchise again.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
Did you watch it? If not, major spoilers;

Spoiler!
Lando's robot sidekick (L3) is portrayed as an activist robot. "SHE" kinda talks like she's a sassy black women and all she does is whine and bitch about oppression of robots from the "flesh beings", everything is about liberation and "fight the power" with her character. Then the supposed antagonist/rival to Solo and the gang is a group of masked pirates. When the leader takes "HER" mask off she's some mixed race little girl thats no older than 15. They kinda pulled a kylo ren and made her voice sound deep and intimidating, but she was just a girl who bested a grown ass man (Woody Harrelsons character) in weapons combat during a heist scene earlier in the film.
I expected you to say that. The robot was acaricature. It was a joke, it is supposed to be annoying. If anything itis making fun of hardcore feminismbecause it's so ridiculous. It's the opposite of what you're complaining about, if you hate SJW & liberal agenda you should ****inglovethat robot.

The number of people who saw that droid and thought it was supposed to be serious liberal agenda are so blinded by their anti-SJW obsession that they missed the obvious.It was satire.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
I wonder if Disney is going to figure out that people don't want her vision of Star Wars. Episode IX comes out December of 2019 so they have some time to think this over.
It's absolutely flabbergasting seeing the amount of COPE from the media as to why its failing. Not one mention of Disney, KK or Political correctness/SJWism and the comments are swarmed with it lol

How much of an echo chamber must these hollywood execs live in to think people want this type of garbage? they just want entertainment.
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Originally Posted By Bar182
It's absolutely flabbergasting seeing the amount of COPE from the media as to why its failing. Not one mention of Disney, KK or Political correctness/SJWism and the comments are swarmed with it lol

How much of an echo chamber must these hollywood execs live in to think people want this type of garbage? they just want entertainment.
Any any major media outlets won't report the real issue why it's failing because yes, you guessed it, they will be flung with the usual knee-jerk extreme labels. We're not even allowed to have mature discussions anymore in the world because one side is just a bunch of irrational, illogical children. Surely when the profits start declining even further someone will wake the fuk up.
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Really? I don't want to see this one, because I'm kind of sick of seeing Star Wars everywhere. I think that saturation is part of the reason for the bad box office numbers too.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
I expected you to say that. The robot was acaricature. It was a joke, it is supposed to be annoying. If anything itis making fun of hardcore feminismbecause it's so ridiculous. It's the opposite of what you're complaining about, if you hate SJW & liberal agenda you should ****inglovethat robot.

The number of people who saw that droid and thought it was supposed to be serious liberal agenda are so blinded by their anti-SJW obsession that they missed the obvious.It was satire.
the one in the black shirt is the president of star wars, where do you get the idea that it is satire?

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Originally Posted By Maestro
I wonder if Disney is going to figure out that people don't want her vision of Star Wars. Episode IX comes out December of 2019 so they have some time to think this over.
Episode IX is starting production next month. Script is already written. Kinda "late"
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson
the one in the black shirt is the president of star wars, where do you get the idea that it is satire?
If you have a functioning brain cell it's blindingly obvious that it was satire. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it as a subtle way to placate all of us who hated TLJ and it's liberal bull**** by making fun of feminism etc., but it's backfired on them because so many of the idiots who hated the liberal **** were too phucking dumb to realise it was satire. Ironic.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
If you have a functioning brain cell it's blindingly obvious that it was satire. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it as a subtle way to placate all of us who hated TLJ and it's liberal bull**** by making fun of feminism etc., but it's backfired on them because so many of the idiots who hated the liberal **** were too phucking dumb to realise it was satire. Ironic.
the irony between your user name and your posts on the matter is off the fukking charts
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I guarantee you I hated TLJ more than anyone. And I'm right-wing, Trump supporter, ****ing despise feminists and all this left-wing gender **** that's going on these days. But so many of you ****s are inventing SJW **** where there isn't any. This movie was cool because it didn't have that chit.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
If you have a functioning brain cell it's blindingly obvious that it was satire. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it as a subtle way to placate all of us who hated TLJ and it's liberal bull**** by making fun of feminism etc., but it's backfired on them because so many of the idiots who hated the liberal **** were too phucking dumb to realise it was satire. Ironic.
Stop coming up with stuff , you are the idiot in this case. I just showed you that the president of star wars is an ultra feminist, you think she is going to let people make fun of her.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-droid/560969/

"Because of her unwillingness to stay quiet about her degradations, Solo’s L3 has already been praised as “a female droid for our turbulent Time’s Up era."

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/sol...rs-1201968300/

"Solo’: Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s L3-37 Is the Saving Grace of This Prequel, and One of the Best Star Wars Characters Ever"

"Of course, L3 wants other robots to share her sense of freedom. “She’s a revolutionary,” Waller-Bridge says of the character, “and she’s completely fearless about that.” It’s all right there in the best line of the movie, when Lando asks L3 if he can get her anything, and the droid pointedly shoots back: “equal rights"
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
I guarantee you I hated TLJ more than anyone. And I'm right-wing, Trump supporter, ****ing despise feminists and all this left-wing gender **** that's going on these days. But so many of you ****s are inventing SJW **** where there isn't any. This movie was cool because it didn't have that chit.
trump is an idiot and so are you. You dont even understand movies that you watch. I have not seen any star wars after tfa, thats how much i hated where disney has taken star wars with the sjw bs.
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson
trump is an idiot and so are you. You dont even understand movies that you watch. I have not seen any star wars after tfa, thats how much i hated where disney has taken star wars with the sjw bs.
You are clearly severely autistic and socially retarded if you thought that droid was serious
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah
You are clearly severely autistic and socially retarded if you thought that droid was serious
did you even see the links i posted? the voice actreas for the droid says what a revolutionary character the droid is, but of course you know the droid better than the voice actress. Again the voice actress says that!!!!!
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Looking good so far. Although I don't think it will matter in the end. The new trilogy is already ruined. It actually makes me sad to see what they did with the golden opportunity of a return of the original cast.
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson
Stop coming up with stuff , you are the idiot in this case. I just showed you that the president of star wars is an ultra feminist, you think she is going to let people make fun of her.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...-droid/560969/

"Because of her unwillingness to stay quiet about her degradations, Solo’s L3 has already been praised as “a female droid for our turbulent Time’s Up era."

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/05/sol...rs-1201968300/

"Solo’: Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s L3-37 Is the Saving Grace of This Prequel, and One of the Best Star Wars Characters Ever"

"Of course, L3 wants other robots to share her sense of freedom. “She’s a revolutionary,” Waller-Bridge says of the character, “and she’s completely fearless about that.” It’s all right there in the best line of the movie, when Lando asks L3 if he can get her anything, and the droid pointedly shoots back: “equal rights"
Lol.


Just “satire” right guys.
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Originally Posted By Bar182
It's absolutely flabbergasting seeing the amount of COPE from the media as to why its failing. Not one mention of Disney, KK or Political correctness/SJWism and the comments are swarmed with it lol

How much of an echo chamber must these hollywood execs live in to think people want this type of garbage? they just want entertainment.
In their bubble everyone is a SJW. They produce these movies which then bomb and it's easier for them to blame "racists" or "populism" rather than accept that they are in a politically extremist bubble.
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson
did you even see the links i posted? the voice actreas for the droid says what a revolutionary character the droid is, but of course you know the droid better than the voice actress. Again the voice actress says that!!!!!
lol who tf cares what the voice actress says? She'd never even seen a Star Wars movie before in her life. Didn't even know she was auditioning for Star Wars in the interview! And she sounds like a bit of a dumbass.

You're placing all your judgements on **** that doesn't matter and not paying attention to what wasactually on the screen
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fuc Star Wars it can stay in the 1980's where it belongs. I loved it when i was a kid, but i never watched The Last *******, nor will i.

For once i should have listened to my wife when she said "Star Wars is a load of chit".

I feel robbed i tell thee, robbed.
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Originally Posted By nzgs
In their bubble everyone is a SJW. They produce these movies which then bomb and it's easier for them to blame "racists" or "populism" rather than accept that they are in a politically extremist bubble.
No way, it's just satire! They are joking! lol, this thread delivered just on that.

Yes, just like with Ghostbusters or any ideal from the same side, objection = <insert extreme label>. It can't possibly be because people are sick and tired of their forced fantasy land. You can never have a mature discussion criticizing anything they do, they are obstinate children with blinders on. They do more damage to a society and way of life than anything else we've seen. This franchise was fuking butchered from something epic and grand to a political platform of bad plot-lines, horrible acting and forced agendas. They just took all the lore and everything, then dumped all over it. I mean the other day I made a thread about how I watched mainstream TV for 45 seconds and straight away it was a fat whale with the crowd clapping about how she is going to the beach proud, then the host hugs her like she is a hero. They are clearly just a group of neurotic idiots that only have power because politicians want votes, and businesses want consumers via social media.

Of course, with so much chaos there has to be lots of objections from normal people--or else we will just get run over--and as usual, their childish defense is to mirror the objections, reflect it back and try paint the other side as "extreme" and "whinging". Notice they will do ANYTHING other than tackle the actual topic at hand. It's all diversion and avoidance. Watch any solid debate on youtube and it's always the same characteristics. Emotional antics, blame, labels, diversionary tactics, ad hominems etc.
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