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post 1554188541 06-19-2018, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Disaster averted by sounds of it lol

I am surprised you ain't locked down yet. Or not bout dat life yet?
I just haven't found anyone yet.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
The first one is not a good idea. It sounds like you are just collecting numbers because you are lazy, not because you actually want to meet up with her. The second was much better, which is why she came around.



I prefer feedback and know that she's enjoying herself.

Update:

So, I set up a date with the second chick and went for a neutral spot for dinner instead of going to her place and she agreed. I called her and we talked for about 30 seconds before she started having conversations with her kids and who ever else was at her house as I was basically just sitting there silently. On top of that her kids asked if she was talking to dad and she was like, "No, I'm talking to pondus." Boundaries? Please? This put me off, so I suggested she call me back after her kids were asleep.

Then later over text she started asking me about other women, to which I was honest and told her I was actively dating. She seemed to be bothered with this even though she's made it pretty clear she was after a hookup, and claimed it didn't bother her, but at the same time acting like I was "the one," so I told her I was thinking it might be a good to hold off meeting for a bit because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. Well, she flipped her **** on me and told me she was going to find someone else to hook up with. To which I said. "Okay. I'm sorry. I wish you the best." Which, of course, drove her more crazy... Anyhow, glad I called it off.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
The first one is not a good idea. It sounds like you are just collecting numbers because you are lazy, not because you actually want to meet up with her. The second was much better, which is why she came around.



I prefer feedback and know that she's enjoying herself.

Update:

So, I set up a date with the second chick and went for a neutral spot for dinner instead of going to her place and she agreed. I called her and we talked for about 30 seconds before she started having conversations with her kids and who ever else was at her house as I was basically just sitting there silently. On top of that her kids asked if she was talking to dad and she was like, "No, I'm talking to pondus." Boundaries? Please? This put me off, so I suggested she call me back after her kids were asleep.

Then later over text she started asking me about other women, to which I was honest and told her I was actively dating. She seemed to be bothered with this even though she's made it pretty clear she was after a hookup, and claimed it didn't bother her, but at the same time acting like I was "the one," so I told her I was thinking it might be a good to hold off meeting for a bit because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. Well, she flipped her **** on me and told me she was going to find someone else to hook up with. To which I said. "Okay. I'm sorry. I wish you the best." Which, of course, drove her more crazy... Anyhow, glad I called it off.
Iโ€™m used to feedback which was why it was so weird.

Also I absolutely fukโ€™n hate when I got a chick on the phone and she starts talking to other people in the room. If I know Iโ€™ll be on the phone I wait until my kids goto sleep or I tell them โ€œIโ€™m going to be on the phone, if you need something from me now is the time to askโ€ then they leave me alone. Keep in mind Iโ€™m not going spend more than 15 on the phone when my kids are awake. I just make sure they know not to bother me.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
I just haven't found anyone yet.
Atleast you having fun along the way. No rush for you anyway, you got kids, whereas I need to spread the seed lol. I guess I should consider myself lucky, only had to sift through 4 of them until I found my boo. Been together almost 16 months now.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
The first one is not a good idea. It sounds like you are just collecting numbers because you are lazy, not because you actually want to meet up with her. The second was much better, which is why she came around.



I prefer feedback and know that she's enjoying herself.

Update:

So, I set up a date with the second chick and went for a neutral spot for dinner instead of going to her place and she agreed. I called her and we talked for about 30 seconds before she started having conversations with her kids and who ever else was at her house as I was basically just sitting there silently. On top of that her kids asked if she was talking to dad and she was like, "No, I'm talking to pondus." Boundaries? Please? This put me off, so I suggested she call me back after her kids were asleep.

Then later over text she started asking me about other women, to which I was honest and told her I was actively dating. She seemed to be bothered with this even though she's made it pretty clear she was after a hookup, and claimed it didn't bother her, but at the same time acting like I was "the one," so I told her I was thinking it might be a good to hold off meeting for a bit because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. Well, she flipped her **** on me and told me she was going to find someone else to hook up with. To which I said. "Okay. I'm sorry. I wish you the best." Which, of course, drove her more crazy... Anyhow, glad I called it off.
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post 1554198301 06-19-2018, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
What a compete mindfuk.
Not really. I knew she was a bit unstable from our first conversation. IE, her profile said she wants to take it slow and find the right man, but is immediately sexual with me and says she wants to hook up, and she told me some other details about herself and her situation.

You aren't going to entertain women like that long term unless you are looking for it and get off on on the drama. I really thought she just wanted a hookup, but the more we talked the more I could tell she's was really into me and would want more if she could have it. Which again, is a red flag, since we hadn't even met yet.
Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
Iโ€™m used to feedback which was why it was so weird.

Also I absolutely fukโ€™n hate when I got a chick on the phone and she starts talking to other people in the room. If I know Iโ€™ll be on the phone I wait until my kids goto sleep or I tell them โ€œIโ€™m going to be on the phone, if you need something from me now is the time to askโ€ then they leave me alone. Keep in mind Iโ€™m not going spend more than 15 on the phone when my kids are awake. I just make sure they know not to bother me.
Yeah, I even said, "This is why I waited until my kids were asleep..." And of course she made excuses that it was summer and she wants to spend as much time with them as possible." Reminded me of my ex-wife. She would rather be a cool mom or friend than a good role model. Keep in mind it was after 10PM at this point.

Mentally, she's not my type at all. I knew I wouldn't want more than a hookup with her, so I called it off before she would really get hurt. But of course, I'm the dick that lead her on. LOL. SMH.
Originally Posted By Nedo
Atleast you having fun along the way. No rush for you anyway, you got kids, whereas I need to spread the seed lol. I guess I should consider myself lucky, only had to sift through 4 of them until I found my boo. Been together almost 16 months now.
Yeah. I am enjoying myself. There have been a few I saw potential in at first but over time realized it wasn't a good match. I def see potential in the other woman I am currently seeing, but only time will tell.
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post 1554212511 06-19-2018, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Not really. I knew she was a bit unstable from our first conversation. IE, her profile said she wants to take it slow and find the right man, but is immediately sexual with me and says she wants to hook up, and she told me some other details about herself and her situation.

You aren't going to entertain women like that long term unless you are looking for it and get off on on the drama. I really thought she just wanted a hookup, but the more we talked the more I could tell she's was really into me and would want more if she could have it. Which again, is a red flag, since we hadn't even met yet.



Yeah, I even said, "This is why I waited until my kids were asleep..." And of course she made excuses that it was summer and she wants to spend as much time with them as possible." Reminded me of my ex-wife. She would rather be a cool mom or friend than a good role model. Keep in mind it was after 10PM at this point.

Mentally, she's not my type at all. I knew I wouldn't want more than a hookup with her, so I called it off before she would really get hurt. But of course, I'm the dick that lead her on. LOL. SMH.



Yeah. I am enjoying myself. There have been a few I saw potential in at first but over time realized it wasn't a good match. I def see potential in the other woman I am currently seeing, but only time will tell.
yeah man you got, just forget her and move on.
Don't waste time worrying about her.
post 1554219131 06-19-2018, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted By NitrogenWidget
yeah man you got, just forget her and move on.
Don't waste time worrying about her.
I'm not. Taking advantage of the time I put aside for the crazy and I'm gonna go get a bite and a drink with W1. It will be our 5th date.
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god tier womanizing brahs, just got back into dating and got a noob question. What's best way to go about post first date contact for a seemingly excellent date? She did mention seeing each other again when we left last night but hasn't texted yet. I'm thinking of withdrawing for a few days or more to see if she reaches out.
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post 1554275701 06-20-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By mr2spool
god tier womanizing brahs, just got back into dating and got a noob question. What's best way to go about post first date contact for a seemingly excellent date? She did mention seeing each other again when we left last night but hasn't texted yet. I'm thinking of withdrawing for a few days or more to see if she reaches out.
Your mindset is on point. Day 3 reach out unless she has first. Try to mention something funny that may have occurred on the date, exchange a few more giggly messages and then start lining up when she is free for the next date. Hierarchy of importance is that you have plans "with a friend" on the soonest day she is available
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Your mindset is on point. Day 3 reach out unless she has first. Try to mention something funny that may have occurred on the date, exchange a few more giggly messages and then start lining up when she is free for the next date. Hierarchy of importance is that you have plans "with a friend" on the soonest day she is available
Perfect, thank you! Trying to get out of my head and not overthink this chit.
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Originally Posted By mr2spool
Perfect, thank you! Trying to get out of my head and not overthink this chit.
Aaaaannnd youโ€™re already overthinking it.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Aaaaannnd youโ€™re already overthinking it.
It's a bad habit
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Okay, so went out with W1 Tuesday. Ended well. We went wine tasting with her and her friends on Saturday and I guess by the end of the day I was so drunk I said some things that offended her. I literally do not remember any of it, but when I woke up in the morning, I thought it was weird that she took me home instead of back to her place. Getting that drunk that I don't remember certain things has only happened one other time in my life.

She's being more distant now, so I assume that's over.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Okay, so went out with W1 Tuesday. Ended well. We went wine tasting with her and her friends on Saturday andI guess by the end of the day I was so drunk I said some things that offended her. I literally do not remember any of it,but when I woke up in the morning, I thought it was weird that she took me home instead of back to her place. Getting that drunk that I don't remember certain things has only happened one other time in my life.

She's being more distant now, so I assume that's over.
No offence but that's not good, in any situation.

(It may not be over if you talk about it in a mature way, apologise if you did offend her (and her offence was justified) and don't repeat it).
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Originally Posted By mr2spool
god tier womanizing brahs, just got back into dating and got a noob question. What's best way to go about post first date contact for a seemingly excellent date? She did mention seeing each other again when we left last night but hasn't texted yet. I'm thinking of withdrawing for a few days or more to see if she reaches out.
waiting a day or two to initiate contact is always (unfortunately) a good idea. sucks we have to play these games sometimes to keep the women chasing us, lol.
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Originally Posted By mr2spool
god tier womanizing brahs, just got back into dating and got a noob question. What's best way to go about post first date contact for a seemingly excellent date? She did mention seeing each other again when we left last night but hasn't texted yet. I'm thinking of withdrawing for a few days or more to see if she reaches out.
I wait about 5 days then set something up for later that week. This usually goes on for the first two dates then she'll really start reaching out to you because she'll miss you.

I'd say 50% of my first dates text me "good night/I had a really great time tonight" post date.

30% hit me up within 2-3 days with some reference back to the date. "I just saw XYZ that we talked about".

20% say nothing and require me to drive the ship for 2-3 dates, but then start opening up.

Honestly some of my stronger relationships came out of that 20% pool, which feels very counter intuitive.
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Originally Posted By Maatkarah
No offence but that's not good, in any situation.

(It may not be over if you talk about it in a mature way, apologise if you did offend her (and her offence was justified) and don't repeat it).
Yeah, I know. I never drink all day long like that. It got me w/out me even realizing it. She's still talking to me, but it takes her longer to respond now. She did say she thought it was funny I don't remember and I did apologize, but I can't help, but feel it changed things since we've only been dating for a couple of weeks. I guess we'll see how this week plays out. We have tentative plans for Thursday.
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Lmao boyo got bamboozled! Did she repeat what you told her?
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Originally Posted By GhenghisPWN
I wait about 5 days then set something up for later that week. This usually goes on for the first two dates then she'll really start reaching out to you because she'll miss you.

I'd say 50% of my first dates text me "good night/I had a really great time tonight" post date.

30% hit me up within 2-3 days with some reference back to the date. "I just saw XYZ that we talked about".

20% say nothing and require me to drive the ship for 2-3 dates, but then start opening up.

Honestly some of my stronger relationships came out of that 20% pool, which feels very counter intuitive.
I must have been doing it wrongly. I usually shoot a message after a day. I am going to try 3/5 days and see how things play out.
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Lmao boyo got bamboozled! Did she repeat what you told her?
I may have said something along the lines of most women are crazy and don't know what they want.

And to that she said that women do know what they want it just takes them forever to find it... and that I was being an ass.
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Nice lol. Wine hits hard man.

The funny part, she is prob expecting you to bend over backwards now for your words (like most men would), yet you just going to chill and let her get over it. Cheers to dat
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Nice lol. Wine hits hard man.

The funny part, she is prob expecting you to bend over backwards now for your words (like most men would), yet you just going to chill and let her get over it. Cheers to dat
I apologized for offending her, not that I was wrong. I know i'm not wrong. I've gone through a very large sample size over the past two years. Of the 500 women I've started conversations with, I've only gone out with about 50 and actually liked maybe 5 of them.

Women don't know what they want, they know what they don't want and it takes them forever to find it because they don't actually sit down and document their belief system. You know how many women say "I'll know when I find it" to answer who their ideal match is? More than not. It's more like, "I don't know what I want, I just know you are not it." Well, thanks for wasting 3 months of my life. In which I could have been looking for someone that was actually looking for someone like me.

I've ended every relationship within the first 2 weeks. Anything that's lasted longer, they ended.

If people were up front and honest about what they wanted, and not just focused on what they didn't want, there would never be a relationship that lasted more than a few weeks, and then if it lasted that long, you'd probably get married. People are such time wasters.

Of course, I made the same mistake when I was younger, but at least I learned from it. When a woman asks me what I am looking for, I go straight to, "I want someone with the same belief system as me. I want at least 90% compatibility and to be on the same page all the time, and I will not settle for less." Then I get to explain what I am looking for and I get to find out what she is looking for. This is of course, AFTER the first couple of dates and we have chemistry. The first couple of dates are just fun.

To be fair, most men do the same thing. And also to be fair, I wasn't grouping her into that. If I did I wouldn't have kept dating her, but she was sending me good morning texts every day since we met, and now she stopped, and now she is too buys to respond in a timely mannor, which she never made excuses before. Even for this Thursday she said she has to make sure, which she always knew right away before, and still hasn't confirmed. Writing is on the wall. Which is fine, I'm glad she's not going to waste my time.Too many women out there to worry about one.
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post 1554735521 06-26-2018, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Nice lol. Wine hits hard man.

The funny part, she is prob expecting you to bend over backwards now for your words (like most men would), yet you just going to chill and let her get over it. Cheers to dat
Something we can agree on. Never pander. We might not do it for different reasons, but I guess the outcome is the same.

Also on the โ€œwomen donโ€™t know what they wantโ€ stuff. Ye I hear pretty consistent stories from late 20โ€™s women - โ€œI dated a bunch of *******s even though I truly wanted a meaningful relationship. Now Iโ€™ve learned and know what I wantโ€ (ie stable, husband material).
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Something we can agree on. Never pander. We might not do it for different reasons, but I guess the outcome is the same.

Also on the โ€œwomen donโ€™t know what they wantโ€ stuff. Ye I hear pretty consistent stories from late 20โ€™s women - โ€œI dated a bunch of *******s even though I truly wanted a meaningful relationship. Now Iโ€™ve learned and know what I wantโ€ (ie stable, husband material).
Except that's not good enough. You need a true belief system. What does stable mean? What does husband material mean, etc, etc. No one ever sits down and actually writes it out, and its super important if you are looking for the one. You'll also realize that the person you are looking for doesn't exist and you have to prioritize. lulz
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo
Except that's not good enough. You need a true belief system. What does stable mean? What does husband material mean, etc, etc. No one ever sits down and actually writes it out, and its super important if you are looking for the one. You'll also realize that the person you are looking for doesn't exist and you have to prioritize. lulz
I get massive chit on this forum for having requirements, and filtering on them.
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post 1554747591 06-26-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Something we can agree on. Never pander. We might not do it for different reasons, but I guess the outcome is the same.

Also on the โ€œwomen donโ€™t know what they wantโ€ stuff. Ye I hear pretty consistent stories from late 20โ€™s women - โ€œI dated a bunch of *******s even though I truly wanted a meaningful relationship. Now Iโ€™ve learned and know what I wantโ€ (ie stable, husband material).
eh, divorced women in their 40's do the same thing sadly.
It's like they regress.
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well bros....after basically getting semi-ghosted for 2 weeks, the girl i was dating text me yesterday to say that she met another guy and she can only be friends with me. I knew something was up when she was barely responding to me. I preemptively redownloaded my bumble. have a couple potentials that said they were down to grab a drink with me. a nurse, a lobbyist, and an account manager. wish me luck.
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Originally Posted By jlick
well bros....after basically getting semi-ghosted for 2 weeks, the girl i was dating text me yesterday to say that she met another guy and she can only be friends with me. I knew something was up when she was barely responding to me. I preemptively redownloaded my bumble. have a couple potentials that said they were down to grab a drink with me. a nurse, a lobbyist, and an account manager. wish me luck.
Yup, the very first thing that happens before a girl checks out is her texting patterns change.

You start seeing later and later responses, or none at all.

Then you get the bullchit excuses that she was so swamped at work and couldnโ€™t answer your texts. Yeah, like typing up 2 sentences while at lunch or in the bathroom is totally impossible.

The people they want to be with arenโ€™t treated like that. Thatโ€™s a fact.
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Originally Posted By AlexNYC7
Yup, the very first thing that happens before a girl checks out is her texting patterns change.

You start seeing later and later responses, or none at all.

Then you get the bullchit excuses that she was so swamped at work and couldnโ€™t answer our texts. Yeah, like typing up 2 sentences while at lunch or in the bathroom is totally impossible.

The people they want to be with arenโ€™t treated like that. Thatโ€™s a fact.
Ye, it's the obvious change in pattern. I guess there's literally nothing you can do in that situation other than just stop responding and let her go, even though the instinct is to chase and try win back the attention.
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