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Originally Posted By StainlesSon
I have come to the same conclusions, the whole thing seems demeaning as hell, you have to play the entertainer, and ask questions just to keep them replying, and hope you dont make any mistakes because the tiniest thing will get you ghosted so you are constantly on the edge, just to eventually get to date average Jane who is self entitled and whose ego has been boosted to unimaginable heights by wks and soyboys, who are willing to do things you would never do, wk the girl, buy her stuff, and be her doormat in the hope of getting a pity fuk, that's not your thing so you dont even try and by not trying you lower your chances even more

If you are anything like me you will have standards, and wont settle for the first instawhale who is DTF so you will need to go through all these damaged and toxic sloots just to find one that youthinkmight be a cool girl, play a perfect game to reach a date, to discover that you will probably not even like her in real life

It is a competition for the woman, it has always been, but online, it is rigged in numbers, because you being a normal guy, with a good job, good relationships, just a good joe, will be suffocated by the sheer amount of options that women have online, you ll just disappear in the sea of the competition, and to rise above it you d need to be male model status, because even if you are a solid 8, it wont be enough to keep them interested
Real life courses, events and stuff are better because of instant feedback, online dating is just as you said, fickle

I still do tinder for fun, I just try to be honest about what I want and who I am and try to reach endgame with that 1 girl out of 10 that I like, sometimes you get a date but it's not a proficient system at all and it's better to have no expectations about it
I know how you guys feel with online. It honestly makes me think I'm not all that attractive.

Kinda depressing tbh.
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
I know how you guys feel. It honestly makes me think I'm not all that attractive.

Kinda depressing tbh.
The natural conclusion one would draw is that my ex was simply much more attractive that me. So I understand where youโ€™re coming from. For all the women that get their egos boosted, the men are getting their egos lowered.

Donโ€™t take it personally imo, just realize the game is heavily skewed.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
The natural conclusion one would draw is that my ex was simply much more attractive that me. So I understand where youโ€™re coming from. For all the women that get their egos boosted, the men are getting their egos lowered.

Donโ€™t take it personally imo, just realize the game is heavily skewed.
So are you gonna try your luck irl or you just gonna just not date?
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Originally Posted By BlackScorpio91
So are you gonna try your luck irl or you just gonna just not date?
Iโ€™m gonna take up some new hobbies and see what happens. I want a family so I kinda have to date unfortunately.
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Yeah, it makes you question your league, doesnt it? even tho you ve had plenty of rl confirmation, online dating just takes 2 points away from you and you end up struggling to take home girls that you might need a couple beers just to consider in real life, not to talk about trying to keep your dates looksmatched..
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Originally Posted By StainlesSon
Yeah, it makes you question your league, doesnt it? even tho you ve had plenty of rl confirmation, online dating just takes 2 points away from you and you end up struggling to take home girls that you might need a couple beers just to consider in real life, not to talk about trying to keep your dates looksmatched..
Idk, itโ€™s not like Iโ€™ve had a lot of success IRL. I find it extremely difficult to self rate myself becuase random people irl have said Iโ€™m good looking, Iโ€™ve looksmatched pretty women I dated, yet I lack success generally with women.

At this point I honestly donโ€™t know. Might have to post pics to someone here.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Idk, itโ€™s not like Iโ€™ve had a lot of success IRL. I find it extremely difficult to self rate myself becuase random people irl have said Iโ€™m good looking, Iโ€™ve looksmatched pretty women I dated, yet I lack success generally with women.

At this point I honestly donโ€™t know. Might have to post pics to someone here.
No homo but your physique already puts you pretty high on the scale and of course in online dating wits and humour count and are needed to suffice to not being mind blowingly good looking, so you might just be lacking game, in addition to the whole skewed game thing
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Idk, itโ€™s not like Iโ€™ve had a lot of success IRL. I find it extremely difficult to self rate myself becuase random people irl have said Iโ€™m good looking, Iโ€™ve looksmatched pretty women I dated, yet I lack success generally with women.

At this point I honestly donโ€™t know. Might have to post pics to someone here.
This might be a situation where you're good looking to some, average to most. Seems to be my situation as I've been called "decent-looking" and "good-looking" myself and I have had an alright amount of success irl. I would rate myself as a 6 at best.

Yeah just show that pic so we can accurately judge where you stand.
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Originally Posted By StainlesSon
No homo but your physique already puts you pretty high on the scale and of course in online dating wits and humour count and are needed to suffice to not being mind blowingly good looking, so you might just be lacking game, in addition to the whole skewed game thing
Here's my current theory fwiw, nothing mind blowing. If you aren't top tier looks, you need game. I always worked to improve my looks/physique, but again, unless you're top tier, you need adequate game.

By "game" I just mean personality - charismatic, humorous, playful, confident etc. Looking back I lacked that, it's never been my personalityespecially when younger. I was always very direct, logical, pragmatic etc. even if I was also social and made friends easily. That lack of emotional touch and empathy I believe, made me unsuccessful for the most part with women (given what I know now).
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You were warned about this. I guess everyone has to figure it out on their own though.

You'd clean up in SE Asia with online dating. You'd have your pick.

I get called good looking. I get hit on by women in real life that have other guys going after them. I have women from years past who still want to date me that are 9/10 on looks.

Online....I get ghosted by 6/10's 80% of the time. If they're 7/10, probably 98% of the time. It's not worth it. It's a hangout for mentally ill people.
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You have to have everything to get a fit attractive girl there days. OP you have a 10/10 physique but weve never seen your face and you are 5'6. That hurts you. You also have to have charisma to get hot women because they all play hard to get. All hot women play hard to get. So if you are looking for a 7 fit girl you have to have everything or she will just find another Chad. The dating game has been fuked since 2012-2013.
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You guys should read The Rational Male series. Goes into detail about the discrepancy between dating in 21 century, why women act the way they do, etc. Really helped me get back on my feet after a hard breakup.

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Lucy try the paid sites, nevermind the gutter on the free sites. I would think their pickings are slimmer for jacked brahs on paid sites because these guys are destroying everything with a pulse on the free sites. You should stand out. Don't be serious, interrogative and just joke around with them to the max.
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I was thinking maybe not having an active instagram might be a deal breaker for these dumb sloots
I got this
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So many unfortunate truths in the last few posts. Heres one that bugs me, whats the point of using a dating app if your only going to respond every 30 hours? How are we supposed to make any progress with one message a day. I understand this could just be a lack of interest....so don't respond at all! dat der attention doe.

Another thing that is specific to me as a non drinker is how many girls have 4/5/6 of their pictures at a club or drinking. And how all of their answers to the questions revolve drinking or parting. Do you not do anything but work, booze and get dressed to the 9s? These girls are completely updatable to me (and they probably have no interest in a non drinker, understandably).

PS: contemplating creating a thread for non drinkers as I feel its caused some issues with dating for me. Would you guys contribute?

Edit: I don't mind going to bars and my girl drinking, but I do mind when their entire free time revolves around drinking and partying.
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Originally Posted By antman12
So many unfortunate truths in the last few posts. Heres one that bugs me, whats the point of using a dating app if your only going to respond every 30 hours? How are we supposed to make any progress with one message a day. I understand this could just be a lack of interest....so don't respond at all! dat der attention doe.

Another thing that is specific to me as a non drinker is how many girls have 4/5/6 of their pictures at a club or drinking. And how all of their answers to the questions revolve drinking or parting. Do you not do anything but work, booze and get dressed to the 9s? These girls are completely updatable to me (and they probably have no interest in a non drinker, understandably).

PS: contemplating creating a thread for non drinkers as I feel its caused some issues with dating for me. Would you guys contribute?

Edit: I don't mind going to bars and my girl drinking, but I do mind when their entire free time revolves around drinking and partying.
It's very hard to fit in socially or meet people if you dont drink. When I drank I met so many people and always had an excuse to go out.
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Originally Posted By Nedo
Don't be serious, interrogative and just joke around with them to the max.
What a sad world we live in, where people are incapable of any substantive conversation. So here's the thing; you're correct in how to maximize attraction from the greatest number of thots. But surely, I should be trying to attract the type of woman I want to be with, not just maximizing matches.

It all comes down to dating for fun vs. dating for a serious relationship.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
What a sad world we live in, where people are incapable of any substantive conversation. So here's the thing; you're correct in how to maximize attraction from the greatest number of thots. But surely, I should be trying to attract the type of woman I want to be with, not just maximizing matches.

It all comes down to dating for fun vs. dating for a serious relationship.
Have you considered shopping around for a legit matchmaker? This one seems pretty pricey, but I know that they are out there. Just saying since you seem to have a pretty defined idea of what you want and to be working on a timeline.

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Online dating is toxic for your mind as a man. I learned the hard way. No sane man will put himself through that. I WILL NEVER use it again. I'll die alone but I go back to it.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
What a sad world we live in, where people are incapable of any substantive conversation. So here's the thing; you're correct in how to maximize attraction from the greatest number of thots. But surely, I should be trying to attract the type of woman I want to be with, not just maximizing matches.

It all comes down to dating for fun vs. dating for a serious relationship.
Why are you so against using your time for fun and if you HAPPEN to run into someone cool you stick it out. Thats how its supposed to work, the **** youโ€™re doing now is like what id expect to see on some TLC primetime show.

Expecting some unicorn like morality woman to pop out of tinder is so unrealistic. If you start banging the sloots you can use them to expand your social circle, sloots have friends that arenโ€™t sloots but youll never meet them unless you go through the sloot. Then you take tinder out of the equation, make sense?

The harder you chase the harder this is gonna be for you.
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Originally Posted By Solomonlike
Online dating is toxic for your mind as a man. I learned the hard way. No sane man will put himself through that. I WILL NEVER use it again. I'll die alone but I go back to it.
Not a man, but totally agree. I'll never get back on online dating. I'd rather be alone.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol
Why are you so against using your time for fun and if you HAPPEN to run into someone cool you stick it out. Thats how its supposed to work, the **** youโ€™re doing now is like what id expect to see on some TLC primetime show.

Expecting some unicorn like morality woman to pop out of tinder is so unrealistic. If you start banging the sloots you can use them to expand your social circle, sloots have friends that arenโ€™t sloots but youll never meet them unless you go through the sloot. Then you take tinder out of the equation, make sense?

The harder you chase the harder this is gonna be for you.
I'm not against fun, but also not in it just for fun. I desire a real relationship, which apparently women are supposed to want more than men...

If I was 10 years younger I might heed your advice. Instead I'd rather attract less women, but more of the type of woman I want to be with.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
I'm not against fun, but also not in it just for fun. I desire a real relationship, which apparently women are supposed to want more than men...

If I was 10 years younger I might heed your advice. Instead I'd rather attract less women, but more of the type of woman I want to be with.
Daisy chain from tinder sloots to their friends. You arenโ€™t gonna find what your looking for on there. At least the odds are astronomical.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
I'm not against fun, but also not in it just for fun. I desire a real relationship, which apparently women are supposed to want more than men...

If I was 10 years younger I might heed your advice. Instead I'd rather attract less women, but more of the type of woman I want to be with.
Eh.

It's the internet so it's impossible to tell on here because it's words on a screen but you come off as trying waaaaaaaay too hard to find someone. If this is any indication of real life and how you talk to women and/or act on a date with them, you're probably scaring them off to be honest.
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post 1557931501 08-03-2018, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted By US_Ranger
Eh.

It's the internet so it's impossible to tell on here because it's words on a screen but you come off as trying waaaaaaaay too hard to find someone. If this is any indication of real life and how you talk to women and/or act on a date with them, you're probably scaring them off to be honest.
Well, this is the internet and I'm not a retard so give me some credit.
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post 1557932801 08-03-2018, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Well, this is the internet and I'm not a retard so give me some credit.
I get that but you've said yourself (if I remember correctly) that you bring up marriage and kids, etc on the first date. I imagine you might even be talking about it to girls you match with online. That's probably a big red flag to a woman if she doesn't really know you. I think you're more 1950's dating and it doesn't quite work like that anymore.

If you want to pursue something like that, you need to meet them in real life and at least give off some sort of in person "vibe" that you also have a good sense of humor, carry yourself well, etc. That or wait until date 3 to start talking about this sort of thing. It's not wasting time if you'd otherwise be wasting time talking to ghostwoman 101 from Bumble/Tinder/whatever.
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