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post 1558480501 08-10-2018, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By SiberianStrike⏩
How they could not restrain him when he still didn't have a gun and was tazzed repeatedly? Do they need more training or more non lethal tools to deal with situations like this?
Try restraining someone who really doesn’t want to be.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124⏩
Try restraining someone who really doesn’t want to be.
It is indeed extremely difficult.

For an analogy most guys have probably at least observed...why is it that football defenses tire more and more quickly than offenses? Why is it that more plays and more runs and more time of possession wears out the defense, to the benefit of the offense? Same fundamental principle at work
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Anyone can be subjected to evaluation and criticism of how they perform their job. But...an officer is one of the only careers where their performance is routinely tied to the free-will of violent criminals, the mentally ill, and people under the influence of intensly psychotropic drugs.

Makes the evaluation of our budget reports or shift close-outs seem a lot less intense, right?
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post 1558481791 08-10-2018, 03:30 PM
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I hate all this "All these cops had to do was X. How hard can it be?"


Warren Buffet is a billionaire. Want to be a billionaire? Well, all you have to do is X.





Cops go through long periods of boredom and BS, sprinkled with intermittent periods of chaos. It's a tough job and it sucks that so many people out there hate them when a couple of them make a bad decision.
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post 1558482381 08-10-2018, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
I hate all this "All these cops had to do was X. How hard can it be?"


Warren Buffet is a billionaire. Want to be a billionaire? Well, all you have to do is X.





Cops go through long periods of boredom and BS, sprinkled with intermittent periods of chaos. It's a tough job and it sucks that so many people out there hate them when a couple of them make a bad decision.
99% boredom, 1% sheer terror, I hear
post 1558483791 08-10-2018, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By xxAchillesxx⏩
While I agree 100%, if they shot him while he was reaching for something in the car, you can damn well bet the cops' lives would be ruined by the ensuing Trial by Twitter and everyone claiming he was unarmed/excessive force.
Yeh I know which is unfortunate. Kind of a damned if you, damned if you don’t situation but it would’ve been easy for them to show him going towards the back seat and the gun being right there plain as day. You figure the video as well with him resisting to the highest degree, I don’t see How anyone could post hate on the cops and get a lot of backing.
post 1558484471 08-10-2018, 04:14 PM
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Wow that big cop is clumsy and useless. Probably cost his partner his life if he hadnt been such a bumbling retard.
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post 1558484591 08-10-2018, 04:16 PM
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lol if ur a cop and dont know grappling. lol at u.
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01⏩
Ya Im sorry but those "punches" were pathetic.


Those are heros and Im not takin sht but that's a pathetic display of trying to restrain someone. All Cops have to be taught some jui-jitsu or krav maga or something. Should be mandatory.

They had him down and he got off....shouldn't of happened if they had the correct training
Oh look ladies and gentlemen... the resident cuck Canadian pretending to be a warrior is here. I'm sure you would have restrained him in a legal manner by yourself in about 3 seconds.
post 1558485241 08-10-2018, 04:30 PM
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So the thug gets shot, dragged, punched/hammerfisted repeatedly in the face/head and still manages to break free and get away, while heavily intoxicated and outnumbered 2-1 on top of that. That thug is the probably toughest dude I've ever seen.
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post 1558485961 08-10-2018, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted By 1hardgainer⏩
So the thug gets shot, dragged, punched/hammerfisted repeatedly in the face/head and still manages to break free and get away, while heavily intoxicated and outnumbered 2-1 on top of that. That thug is the probably toughest dude I've ever seen.
Being intoxicated or under the influence seems to help that
post 1558486961 08-10-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Being intoxicated or under the influence seems to help that
Maybe for being able to tolerate more pain, but he looked like he could barely walk straight. Definitely looked less coordinated. That one cop looked pretty big, too. Hard to believe the dude was able to break free when both cops were on top of him.
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post 1558487371 08-10-2018, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By 1hardgainer⏩
Maybe for being able to tolerate more pain, but he looked like he could barely walk straight. Definitely looked less coordinated. That one cop looked pretty big, too. Hard to believe the dude was able to break free when both cops were on top of him.
Yeah but you hear, read, and even see things like this all over
Originally Posted By bigcat3655⏩
I had a kid on pcp I was trying to arrest a few years back. He was about 5'7" 130. I'm 6'3" 215 and my backup is about 5'9" 200. The kid did a one armed pushup with both of us on his back.

This is where the excited delirium deaths happen. They are subconsciously exerting themselves so hard when they're on these drugs that their bodies burn out
If you want to see crazy stuff get on video sites, especially ones that aren't overly restrictive, and look around using keyword excited delirium

I don't think that was the case in this video necessarily, but that's just a great keyword to really see what the human body can do.

post 1558488311 08-10-2018, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted By fromthastreetz⏩
lol at being blown away by a big dude punching through a fence.

and that rookie cop in the main video was a moron. could have taken 2 steps to the passenger side window but instead runs all the way back around the rear, bumps into his partner, stumbles back and gets blasted
Who's blown away?

It's easy to sit at your keyboard and criticize reactions of people who are literally being shot at, eh? lol

Not even willing to do it on your main account either SMH
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which one was severely injured, the tall cop or short one? what happ to the other one nothing?


i would have just popped him
post 1558490181 08-10-2018, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By fromthastreetz⏩
the cop

and he wasnt being shot at during the reaction i described.
The cop what?There was a cop "blown away" by the dude who punched the fence? What timestamp was that at...?

I think you are already unable to keep up with your trolls lol go back to your main account (if it's active...)
post 1558491651 08-10-2018, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
If you want to see crazy stuff get on video sites, especially ones that aren't overly restrictive, and look around using keyword excited delirium ]
cot damn, looks like i got my evening planned.
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Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
which one was severely injured, the tall cop or short one? what happ to the other one nothing?


i would have just popped him
big boy took 4 shots out of the 6 that were shot from the suspects gun. had to apply a tourniquet immediately and its the only thing that saved his life. one of the shots hit a major artery.

small cop took cover behind passenger side of the cop car and returned fire. dont think he was hurt too bad.
post 1558501041 08-10-2018, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted By TMaC828⏩
Oh look ladies and gentlemen... the resident cuck Canadian pretending to be a warrior is here. I'm sure you would have restrained him in a legal manner by yourself in about 3 seconds.
never said that at all, I could never do that job....what I said is still true tho....2 cops shouldve been able to restrain him and he should not of been able to get free AND get to his front seat and fire.


Have you ever been in a fight before? Most sht talkers usually never have
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01⏩
never said that at all, I could never do that job....what I said is still true tho....2 cops shouldve been able to restrain him and he should not of been able to get free AND get to his front seat and fire.


Have you ever been in a fight before? Most sht talkers usually never have
How many violent criminals have you attempted to restrain and handcuff?

BTW there is no such thing as "should not of". Should not have. You are looking for "should not have"
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
How many violent criminals have you attempted to restrain and handcuff?
None, I watched the video and saw a sorry attempt at hand to hand combat.....All I said that they needed to learn some real fighting techniques and in that case probably jiu jitsu. Ya Im speaking in hingsight but Ive seen videos or cops trying to grapple people and its obvioussomehave no idea what to do.


Do you think hand to hand combat training is a bad idea for cops?
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01⏩
None
Right then.

But hey, you keep on saying that arresting somebody is the same as a straight fight where causing harm to the other guy is all you are going for.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Right then.
great talk, very reasonable on your end....
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Glad the officers made it alive and that POS can rot in prison for the rest of his life. Amazing the logic of someone who will trade in a DUI for life in prison all for the chance he just might have gotten away with it for a night. Some people, their only reaction when stuck in a hole is to dig deeper.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Glad the officers made it alive and that POS can rot in prison for the rest of his life. Amazing the logic of someone who will trade in a DUI for life in prison all for the chance he just might have gotten away with it for a night. Some people, their only reaction when stuck in a hole is to dig deeper.
so as a man youre just gonna let 2 other men harass you, manhandle you then start beating you up, tazer the **** out of you, smash you in the face and not fight back? by then his adrenaline was probably max power cuz he's fighting for his safety/life.

if you read the story. the police had already pulled him over and ticketed him and went on their way. they decided to pull him over again for no reason... thats harassment if you ask me.
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Originally Posted By Arsenal01⏩
never said that at all, I could never do that job....what I said is still true tho....2 cops shouldve been able to restrain him and he should not of been able to get free AND get to his front seat and fire.

People who are high/drunk and have zero regard for personal safety while hellbent on escaping are quite a bit more challenging than the average person
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Originally Posted By SiberianStrike⏩
How they could not restrain him when he still didn't have a gun and was tazzed repeatedly? Do they need more training or more non lethal tools to deal with situations like this?
This is the typical response you get from a person that has been in their life been in a true physical altercation. Someone who has never wrestled before, someone who has never attempted to restrain a person that doesn't want to be restrained.

Just flat out ignorance.
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jesus christ, took two guys and they still couldn't get him down while allowing him to get back to the car to pull a gun out wtf
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The cop on the left should've tackled him when was reaching for a gun in the car, had plenty of time instead he hesitated, turned around and ran into the other cop slowing down time and disrupting the cops shot allowing the criminal to shoot them first.
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Originally Posted By Maxamanius⏩
jesus christ, took two guys and they still couldn't get him down while allowing him to get back to the car to pull a gun out wtf
This is the typical response you get from a person that has been in their life been in a true physical altercation. Someone who has never wrestled before, someone who has never attempted to restrain a person that doesn't want to be restrained.
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