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post 1559272961 08-20-2018, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Critter5592
You didn't answer my question, you just responded with another one. Why not use these police resources/officers to stop thieves stealing from actual citizens and such? This is creating crime, not preventing it.
This isn't the world of minority report, how are officers supposed to stop thieves from preying on people? With a sting? Then you people would complain about the sting...
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Originally Posted By Bassackwards
easily relatable....

imagine if cops left a truck full of protein shakes across from gold's gym venice beach.
Is that what happened?
post 1559273031 08-20-2018, 07:17 PM
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seems like a poor use of resources.
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post 1559273231 08-20-2018, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By tonyparker69
seems like a poor use of resources.
Why?
post 1559273271 08-20-2018, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By tyn89
didnt read the article, but isn't police baiting actually illegal?
not really.
see: undercover cops as 'tutes.
post 1559273481 08-20-2018, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Critter5592
Someone explain to me how this is productive/beneficial? To me you are just creating criminals that are more likely to steal when they come out. I'm not talking about right or wrong, I am talking about the point/goal of these stings? It's not like you're locking away thieves for life, you are just sending them in to jail for a few days?
I'll play along with your logic of "creating criminals". In this scenario, criminals get caught breaking the law with zero losses or victims harmed. In a more "organic" scenario, there would be losses and people victimized. You can then use this as a teaching moment to them that you shouldnt break the law simply because you can. This is how it is beneficial/productive. It isnt perfect, but there you have it.

What we are actually seeing however, is a contingent of people defending them simply because theyre black teenagers, as if they arent capable of better. These kids then lap it up and feel like heroes. Very telling. Perhaps regular people hold prejudices because they don't want to "create criminals" yeah?
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well i guess a ****hole neighborhood stays a ****hole neighborhood as long as there are enough morons to throw a fit about police tactics.
post 1559273941 08-20-2018, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By tonyparker69
seems like a poor use of resources.
how? they basically consolidated a bunch of criminals into one spot and got'em. instead of have 100 cops spread out across the city, they used less resources and got more criminals.
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Originally Posted By Bassackwards
how? they basically consolidated a bunch of criminals into one spot and got'em. instead of have 100 cops spread out across the city, they used less resources and got more criminals.
They took it around to different areas and caught 3 whole criminals including a deaf old man. Job well done boyos
post 1559276001 08-20-2018, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By FFailed
They took it around to different areas and caught 3 whole criminals including a deaf old man. Job well done boyos
So because he's deaf, he can't be a criminal?
post 1559276631 08-20-2018, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain
Guess it ainโ€™t that much different than the prostitution sting operations
Except in proposition there is an exchange of services for money...

This is simply theft, pure and simple. Only one side comes out on top with theft.
post 1559276651 08-20-2018, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
So because he's deaf, he can't be a criminal?
hes deaf and old, just leave him alone imo...
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Originally Posted By FFailed
They took it around to different areas and caught 3 whole criminals including a deaf old man. Job well done boyos
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Originally Posted By straightflexing
hes deaf and old, just leave him alone imo...
Then he should know better, being so old.
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Originally Posted By ontclone
pretty much this, you are telling me that white surburan kids wouldnt take a free pair of shoes if they just saw a truck full of them? lawls

they would only put it in a black neighbor hood though
dude... it was a locked truck full of nikes and they used bolt cutters to get into it...

"Officials countered that the sting targeted no one other than thieves in general, that the truck was locked and required considerable effort to break into, and that perpetrators couldnโ€™t have known the truck contained Nikes until after they broke in and began ransacking it."
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Originally Posted By T-mac
LOL, beyond stupid.

Next the cops will start a BBQ right next to a homeless soup kitchen and walk away for 5 min and when the homeless go for it they'll arrest them.
yeah hella stupid

the homeless people have a right to eat

just like these dudes have a right to those nikes

just like sexless miscers have a right to take women by force

i mean women can't just flaunt it around the deprived and not expect it, right?
post 1559277131 08-20-2018, 08:23 PM
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1) Don't cops haev murders to prevent in Chicago?
2) LMAO at the people claiming it is victimizing them. Like the cops forced some bruh to commit robbery. Get real.
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post 1559277691 08-20-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted By stardewvalley
yeah hella stupid

the homeless people have a right to eat

just like these dudes have a right to those nikes

just like sexless miscers have a right to take women by force

i mean women can't just flaunt it around the deprived and not expect it, right?
Originally Posted By RIKTER
Are you comparing people who might actually be starving and willing to steal readily available food to those who want new kicks?
What difference does it make whether it's food or kicks? Stealing is stealing?

What are you trying to say? if they steal the kicks and sell them to buy food then it's suddenly OK?

That's bad logic
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Originally Posted By stardewvalley
i mean women can't just flaunt it around the deprived and not expect it, right?
What I thought of as well.

These people defending the thieves in this thread remind me of people who blame the woman for being sexually assaulted because she was wearing a shirt skirt.. Complete lunatics.

โ€œShe made it to easyโ€

โ€œYou canโ€™t just walk around like that and expect it NOT to Happenโ€

Itโ€™s the exact same argument, only one shows how truly vile the situation is.
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Lold at the salty neg I got because I laughed at them catching some broke ass old deaf guy who went inside the trailer after someone already cut the big bad zip tie used to lock the doors with a box cutter. He claimed he was looking for food which is probably a lie but still lol @ chicago police catching such high profile criminals while they cant solve murders.

Also looks like the deaf dude was only 36 so not really old at all. O well just another wonderful day in Chitcago with politicians and a police force probably more criminal than the people they bust.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken
I think baiting poor people into committing property crime is an unwise use of funds that does virtually nothing to solve the root cause of the problem. I feel the same way about the billions spent on the drug war, harassing kids for downloading torrents, prostitution stings, etc. By trying to solve one problem through brute force policing and enforcement, you create something that's much worse.

What if the fire department went around encouraging people to set fires just so they could more effectively lobby for more funding? That's the best analogy I can think of.
Good post. Not the best analogy at the end though. The police weren't encouraging anything. Property was left around just as it is by everyone everyday. People independently decided to steal that property.
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Then he should know better, being so old.
I also agree...
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why are these 'activists' crying? they fell for a trap breaking the ****ing law.
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Originally Posted By FFailed
Lold at the salty neg I got because I laughed at them catching some broke ass old deaf guy who went inside the trailer after someone already cut the big bad zip tie used to lock the doors with a box cutter. He claimed he was looking for food which is probably a lie but still lol @ chicago police catching such high profile criminals while they cant solve murders.

Also looks like the deaf dude was only 36 so not really old at all. O well just another wonderful day in Chitcago with politicians and a police force probably more criminal than the people they bust.
Hard to solve a murder when nobody wants to cooperate. You're beyond sheltered.

Also, should we get rid of all stings? Like bait cars?

Also, what does him being deaf have to do with anything? He's deaf, not retarded.
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Originally Posted By T-mac
What difference does it make whether it's food or kicks? Stealing is stealing?

What are you trying to say? if they steal the kicks and sell them to buy food then it's suddenly OK?

That's bad logic
this guy even brought up logic
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn
Hard to solve a murder when nobody wants to cooperate. You're beyond sheltered.

Also, should we get rid of all stings? Like bait cars?

Also, what does him being deaf have to do with anything? He's deaf, not retarded.
Hard to solve murders without people cooperating? Gee surely taking a bait truck full of nikes on a hood tour will solve that problem quickly. That is what I've been saying this whole time but no one can seem to understand that because they are too busy going ermergherd you're a criminal sympathizer. Basically this whole operation did nothing except make people want to cooperate even less.

I also find it pretty convenient that this truck just happened to have stereotypical items people in the hood love almost as much as guns. Did not a single person think to themselves "hmmm I wonder what will happen when news of this breaks". They could of filled it with almost anything else and it wouldn't have made such a ridiculous headline for people to talk about and piss off the community. Why would it need to have Nikes in it if all they were doing was baiting people to break into an unmarked closed trailer. Seems legit

The community doesn't cooperate they said... lol
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Originally Posted By FFailed
I also find it pretty convenient that this truck just happened to have stereotypical items people in the hood love almost as much as guns. Did not a single person think to themselves "hmmm I wonder what will happen when news of this breaks". They could of filled it with almost anything else and it wouldn't have made such a ridiculous headline for people to talk about and piss off the community. Why would it need to have Nikes in it if all they were doing was baiting people to break into an unmarked closed trailer. Seems legit
Its honestly crazy AF to imagine breaking into an enclosed semi... I mean.... They didnt even know shoes were in there.

Imagine yourself seeing a random semi parked somewhere, and you go get bolt cutters to break in. LMAO. The chit-tier brainlet level of a human you have to be to do that, honestly wtf?

so now the criminals dont trust the police? HAahahaha, the irony.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Its honestly crazy AF to imagine breaking into an enclosed semi... I mean.... They didnt even know shoes were in there.

Imagine yourself seeing a random semi parked somewhere, and you go get bolt cutters to break in. LMAO. The chit-tier brainlet level of a human you have to be to do that, honestly wtf?

so now the criminals dont trust the police? HAahahaha, the irony.
Wouldn't surprise me if the police tried to spread the word there were some fresh Js in there. I don't understand the point of the Nikes other than to make this situation sound awful when spun by the media and word of mouth on the street. This probably wouldn't even be a thread if it was dvd players or whatever random object in there nobody cares about.

Also in the vid they showed on the news it was a box cutter and he cut what looked like a zip tie. Its not like he came in with some big ass bolt cutters he probably just whipped out his EDC box cutter.
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Originally Posted By FFailed
Also in the vid they showed on the news it was a box cutter and he cut what looked like a zip tie. Its not like he came in with some big ass bolt cutters he probably just whipped out his EDC box cutter.
Oh, well then its fine! He is entitled to breaking into enclosed trailers if it isnt locked up good.

Just lol.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Oh, well then its fine! He is entitled to breaking into enclosed trailers if it isnt locked up good.

Just lol.
Totally, I've been trying to say these people are entitled to stealing things this whole time. Typical misc fashion of just making ridiculous things up in hopes of strengthening their narrow view point. Its ok I probably do the same thing all the time too. I think it's just what most people that view this forum get sucked into doing in hopes of getting laughs. You seem like a smart guy so I'm sure in reality you see what I've been trying to say about this situation.
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