180k here 40 hours a week and feel the same as OP. Its never enough and until you aren't at the mercy of a corporation for your paycheck, I think that is just how some people are going to feel. Plan to escape it myself via aggressive investing.







You'd be surprised but that is incorrect. Companies have to be more aggressive with pay packages to get talent who are on the open market, vs retaining talent. Once they have you, you are on the standard progression of 2-5% a year. If you have a competitor company who is looking to acquire solid talent they could offer you 10-15k more per year so same role. I have seen it a million times and experienced it multiple times myself.

And my job now that pays 180 is the same as my last job that paid 70. They are both inside sales. The difference? Mid market/corporate customers vs SMB/resellers. Same title and responsibilities basically, but different tax bracket.

show me ur paycheck for 180k and ill quit my jerb today and come work for u ****ggot

Try options trading wallstreetbets style

$300k in IT field isn't happening unless you're maybe CTO at some big company or start your own business and it takes off.

Why do you need $300k? That's where the problem comes in. The more money and materials you want, the harder you're gonna have to work.

I'd rather take $5k passive income the rest of my life than $300k. Don't get me wrong, I wanna ball outta control too, but getting to such a high salary ain't easy.

Give me $5k passive income and a part time job. Happy for the rest of my life.

It's easy to me imo, because i've done it. I know what it takes. I know whats involved. I've got a good idea for creating things and I build tons of calculators/spreadsheets and have a deep programming mindset, so I can look at this from a really analytical/logical point of view.

OP asked how he can escape rat race - I'm telling him not to quit his job and to start a compny on the side, then when that makes like $100K a year, go full time with it and escape rat race.

If you want $300K, then i'd keep your $90K income job (for now) but half-arse it and put full effort into setting up a company that you can run from home (e.g. ecommerce on shopify) or something along those lines.

Then you only need to pull in $200K/Year (easy enough from one business) and you're done.

I've been hitting £350-450K for a couple of years, but as of a few months ago have completely taken my foot off the pedal because I feel like im at a stage where I can do a ton more work (read: time) but the earnings wont increase as quickly (in relation) - so im just losing loads of time where I may only be able to increase by say £25-50K a year extra.

Tbh, feel utterly unmotivated with what im doing atm. Its not hard/mentally stimulating/challening and I feel like im getting no satisfaction from it.

When money no longer motivates you / is your motivation, then where do you turn to?

I really miss the digital marketing/social marketing/advertising and initial start up culture. Being passionate and obsessive about something and growing your 'baby' into something impressive.

Would love to consistently hit £500K+ / Year doing something I love, but it seems (not always, but a lot of the time) in order to hit the big bucks, you need to take on a ton more responsibilities (warehouses, staff, then pay your staff each month, pensions for them, healthcare for them, dealing with bull**** dramas, lazy staff members, pulling sickies) and its a ton more stress.

I think thats why im happier hitting the lower figures, when its only my fiancee and I on the payroll and if I dont wanna work one day - then I dont etc. Dont have to answer to anyone or deal with anyone other than clients.

I think for me, the best bet would be to carry on what im doing - but reinvest the profits I make into a new company / startup. That would be the quickest/most straight forward way for me to hit £500K+ / year with minimal effort/time

Why not a $300k income that you can do in 40 hours a week or less? That will get you the means to set up a passive income.
Trust me, the jobs are out there for the people who are worth the amount.

The trick is....you have to be worth it.

I've tried getting so many of my broke friends on what I'm doing. They come to me moaning/crying because they barely have $100 in their bank accounts, so I say - look how serious are you about changing your life? What will you do? How hard will you work? Would you quit your chitty job and let me help you?

And they always say yes, and then when they realise that they are going to have to put more than 2-3 hours a night of effort into startng something, they all cry again and say how its too difficult, or its not straight forward or whatever.

You're right, it's virtually impossible for 70% of the population I know because they are lazy, entitled and thick as dogchite, with a zero work ethic. Everyone just wants to turn up to work, stamp in and collect that sweet $12 an hour and make jokes about being paid to smoke cigarettes, poop or make coffee - like theyre cheating the system somehow lol.

I've said before that its a B2C bespoke service that im offering.

I'm not going to go into detail, because If you have nothing to gain, then why say anything?

The word 'side hustle' is also B.S. I hate that. When I started my company, I left for my main job at 8:00am and was back home (after gym) by 7pm. Then I worked from 7:30pm to 2-3am every night and at the weekends, I was pulling 10-12 hours a day. It actually added up that I was spending considerably more time in my 'side hustle' than in my actual job. To me, this isnt a side hustle. It was a seperate job. But I've worked full-time with it now for the last 2 years and its much better (more free time)

Of course youre skeptical though, why wouldnt you be? Its not a normal salary for ANY age, let alone someone in their mid 20s.

I dont really know what you want me to say though to prove otherwise (and nor do I really care). I'm not going to post up anything actually related to my business (official documents or business names etc).

But here is some inspiration for other miscers to bite the bullet and leave the rat race, which you will never win.





£392K in ~8 months. (the drier periods on that were when I was on pretty much back to back holidays and I spent 4 weeks skiing in Switzerland and was with friends so couldnt get much work done)



It's worth remembering that this isnt a 'normal business' either. The above figures are almost 100% profit. I just have to pay corporation tax (Business tax on profits 19%), VAT (20%) and then Income Tax. It's not like im turning over £500K/ year, but £450K is on outgoings. My time is my outgoing.




Legit got about 19 PMs because of this thread asking for a step by step guide on what I do. Its a service related business as stated above.

Tbh though, it really doesnt matter what I sell or do. There is ZERO shortgage of money in the world. I know its not evenly distributed - but there is definitely no shortage it is. Find a niche. You dont have to reinvent the wheel either. Just find something thats already working and improve the quality, add new features, make it simpler, make it more advanced - or provide the exact same thing and just undercut them (although, I NEVER compete/sell myself/worth based on pricing. I think thats a **** method) I never want to be known as offering the cheapest or most budget service. I want to be known by my clients are offering the most insanely indepth/prestigious service, so that everyone else isnt even worth looking at.


Typical slow-laner mentality. Read "Millionaire Fastlane" by MJ Demarco. Whilst this method works, I dont want to be finally 'free' and 'if im lucky' driving around in my favourite sports car when im 68 years old.
Its slow, painful and dull.

Even more sceptical now.

You are selling 'something' multiple times a day at 700 quid a pop. You don't employ anyone apart from you're gf..its nearly 100% profit..its tailored to individual clients..

And you can't tell anyone even vaguely what it is.

Strong filling your post with irrelevant nonsense.

Right oh.

Edit: I do remember a guy that was drop shipping Chinese ripped off MS software..right lines?

Remuneration has several hurdles to break through:

- $80,000 you need to ensure that the career you have picked offers salaries around this mark for junior roles
- $100,000 should be your target by 30 years of age
- Salary should exceed $200,000 by the time you are mid 30's
- If you fail here, this is where you will compete with very smart, capable and psychotic individuals, you will get "counselled out" and may struggle to get back on track. If you break through here, and keep your job for another 10 years, you will be looking at around $500-600,000 total compensation. Post this, you will be at executive management level with the opportunity to break through the million mark by your late 40's

It should not be hard to break through $100,000 by 30. It's extremely hard to get beyond $200,000 salary as it's the first level where you will be stretched with profit management, team management and market making skills.

All levels require endless butt hole licking and serving the egos of all the seniors. It's also loaded with mines and grenades deployed to take you down.

Have fun boyos.

Even more sceptical now.

You are selling 'something' multiple times a day at 700 quid a pop. You don't employ anyone apart from you're gf..its nearly 100% profit..its tailored to individual clients..

And you can't tell anyone even vaguely what it is.

Strong filling your post with irrelevant nonsense.

Right oh.

Edit: I do remember a guy that was drop shipping Chinese ripped off MS software..right lines?

You're just being a hater

My hourly rate is £750 (Ex VAT at 20%) an hour, so say £900/hour.

I work 3-4 hours a day (£2700-3600 a day). Sometimes I work 12 hours a day. Sometimes I dont work for 3-4 days because I cant be fuked and would rather go on holiday or go fishing, or just get fukd up.

I employ my gf mainly because it helps massively with my income tax, but she also does a lot of behind the scenes work.

Conclusion; haters gon h8. Jellys gon Jelly.


Strong everything.. "hurrr duhh, if anyone earns more than £100K a year, they MUST be doing something illegal"

If you focused more of your time and energy on self development, maybe you wouldnt have the time to hate on strangers on the internet for their success.

My hourly rate is £750 (Ex VAT at 20%) an hour, so say £900/hour.

I work 3-4 hours a day (£2700-3600 a day). Sometimes I work 12 hours a day. Sometimes I dont work for 3-4 days because I cant be fuked and would rather go on holiday or go fishing, or just get fukd up.

I employ my gf mainly because it helps massively with my income tax, but she also does a lot of behind the scenes work.

Conclusion; haters gon h8. Jellys gon Jelly.


Strong everything.. "hurrr duhh, if anyone earns more than £100K a year, they MUST be doing something illegal"

If you focused more of your time and energy on self development, maybe you wouldnt have the time to hate on strangers on the internet for their success.

My hourly rate is £750 (Ex VAT at 20%) an hour, so say £900/hour.

I work 3-4 hours a day (£2700-3600 a day). Sometimes I work 12 hours a day. Sometimes I dont work for 3-4 days because I cant be fuked and would rather go on holiday or go fishing, or just get fukd up.

I employ my gf mainly because it helps massively with my income tax, but she also does a lot of behind the scenes work.

Conclusion; haters gon h8. Jellys gon Jelly.


Strong everything.. "hurrr duhh, if anyone earns more than £100K a year, they MUST be doing something illegal"

If you focused more of your time and energy on self development, maybe you wouldnt have the time to hate on strangers on the internet for their success.