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Originally Posted By dbluevette⏩
But doesn't that all fall apart once it's realized that this argument was on going, and they had been going back and forth placing/replacing the mattress where each party saw fit?Not if they had business to conduct in the alley. Hear me out. This may be a bit of a stretch but just hear me out. This is what a defense attorney will argue.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
Idk tbh i'm just curious. I can't imagine a viable scenario you'd NEED to throw something out so bad that you would return with a gun under fear of safety to get your trash thrown out.
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09-20-2018, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
I can't imagine a viable scenario you'd NEED to throw something away this bad either. But one can ague that it was within their rights if they felt they needed to.But doesn't that all fall apart once it's realized that this argument was on going, and they had been going back and forth placing/replacing the mattress where each party saw fit?
Idk tbh i'm just curious. I can't imagine a viable scenario you'd NEED to throw something out so bad that you would return with a gun under fear of safety to get your trash thrown out.
Idk tbh i'm just curious. I can't imagine a viable scenario you'd NEED to throw something out so bad that you would return with a gun under fear of safety to get your trash thrown out.
I don't know the full story and i'm sure no one will until the jury hears it at the trial. Don't make snap judgments based on part of a video and hear say accounts by the media. That's why we have Due Process in this country. Again I'm not taking sides, just playing devils advocate.
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09-20-2018, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Maybe Texas is like new mexico and doesnt have crazy high bail amounts. Didnt they give terrorists that killed a child, had weapons with plans written down to attack targets like 20k?That can't be right.
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Originally Posted By dbluevette⏩
Fair enough. We'll have to see what else comes out. There's always more to the story.Not if they had business to conduct in the alley. Hear me out. This may be a bit of a stretch but just hear me out. This is what a defense attorney will argue.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
Originally Posted By Podunks⏩
Like this lol. Must have conveniently been left out of the footage. Original article says someone else got it, but never that he had it in his hands.Authorities and the news agency stated that someone went into the orange fellas house and brought him back a bat, which he wielded right before being shot, and is why the old fart told him not to come within 3 ft of him.
Either way, seems stupid prevailed all around that day.
Either way, seems stupid prevailed all around that day.
09-20-2018, 04:01 PM
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dead guy is also a heavy psych med user apparently:
edit1: well I had an image but I can't link it here
edit1: well I had an image but I can't link it here
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09-20-2018, 04:44 PM
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damn, that escalated...watch the LL video the dude has blood coming out of his head, he dead...
09-20-2018, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted By FFailed⏩
They're chill because they're armed while the other guy isn't.ya that's exactly what happened. I doubt they even had the intention of killing him when they first brought the guns to assert hillbilly dominance. They probably just thought they'd get him to back off. Those lards looked pretty chill during the situation
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09-20-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By dbluevette⏩
Don’t ever be a lawyerNot if they had business to conduct in the alley. Hear me out. This may be a bit of a stretch but just hear me out. This is what a defense attorney will argue.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
If you go to throw out the trash and get in to an altercation with someone and fear for your life most normal people would leave the situation and just call the cops. But, if for some stupid reason you had to get the trash thrown out at that time and felt like you may have to defend your life doing so, going to get a gun for self defense and continuing with your trash throwing activities is within your rights. Not smart, but within your rights.
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09-20-2018, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Roldz⏩
Fuking lmaoI'm not sure why they would need guns at all with those powerful physiques.
I feel awful for laughing but this thread is gold
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09-20-2018, 05:42 PM
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This is a sad scenario because multiple people's lives are ruined, but manmore straight sounded like he was cutting a WWE promo. I was waiting for a YEAH BROTHER to come out.
btw, how many times did he tell the ambiguously gay duo that he was going to kill them? fukk man, when a gun comes out, swallow your pride before you swallow a bullet...
btw, how many times did he tell the ambiguously gay duo that he was going to kill them? fukk man, when a gun comes out, swallow your pride before you swallow a bullet...
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09-20-2018, 05:49 PM
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Has nobody in this thread watched the actual video?
Orange dude had a bat... you can see right after he is first shot it hits/is thrown at the old guy with the pistol, it hits the guy in the upper body, you can briefly see it in the video.
This is a prime example of when inbred idiots collide. Both sides are ****ing idiots. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys get off with something much much less than murder.
The guy in orange multiple times said he was going to kill them, intent. He then has a weapon (the baseball bat), then lets say he raised it to swing it... Clearly could argue it was self defense. Who knows what happened before all of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get off on something because of that. But again both sides are just pure ****ing idiots.
Probably could have got off on everything, until the fat **** with the shotgun executed him with what may have been a headshot.
Wouldn't be surprised if the father gets off since he has a reasonable argument for self defense, the son? not so much.
This is him putting his hands up to defend against the bat or whatever was hit/thrown.
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Appears this happened in Texas, they had no duty to retreat. Old man pops could argue he always carries his pistol... Be a bit harder for junior to explain why he was carrying his shotgun to the trash can, but idk if he exactly needs to in Texas... Pretty sure both are legal.
Orange dude had a bat... you can see right after he is first shot it hits/is thrown at the old guy with the pistol, it hits the guy in the upper body, you can briefly see it in the video.
This is a prime example of when inbred idiots collide. Both sides are ****ing idiots. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys get off with something much much less than murder.
The guy in orange multiple times said he was going to kill them, intent. He then has a weapon (the baseball bat), then lets say he raised it to swing it... Clearly could argue it was self defense. Who knows what happened before all of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get off on something because of that. But again both sides are just pure ****ing idiots.
Probably could have got off on everything, until the fat **** with the shotgun executed him with what may have been a headshot.
Wouldn't be surprised if the father gets off since he has a reasonable argument for self defense, the son? not so much.
This is him putting his hands up to defend against the bat or whatever was hit/thrown.
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Appears this happened in Texas, they had no duty to retreat. Old man pops could argue he always carries his pistol... Be a bit harder for junior to explain why he was carrying his shotgun to the trash can, but idk if he exactly needs to in Texas... Pretty sure both are legal.
09-20-2018, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
are those bright blue shoes?Has nobody in this thread watched the actual video?
Orange dude had a bat... you can see right after he is first shot it hits/is thrown at the old guy with the pistol, it hits the guy in the upper body, you can briefly see it in the video.
This is a prime example of when inbred idiots collide. Both sides are ****ing idiots. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys get off with something much much less than murder.
The guy in orange multiple times said he was going to kill them, intent. He then has a weapon (the baseball bat), then lets say he raised it to swing it... Clearly could argue it was self defense. Who knows what happened before all of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get off on something because of that. But again both sides are just pure ****ing idiots.
Probably could have got off on everything, until the fat **** with the shotgun executed him with what may have been a headshot.
Wouldn't be surprised if the father gets off since he has a reasonable argument for self defense, the son? not so much.
This is him putting his hands up to defend against the bat or whatever was hit/thrown.
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Appears this happened in Texas, they had no duty to retreat. Old man pops could argue he always carries his pistol... Be a bit harder for junior to explain why he was carrying his shotgun to the trash can, but idk if he exactly needs to in Texas... Pretty sure both are legal.
Orange dude had a bat... you can see right after he is first shot it hits/is thrown at the old guy with the pistol, it hits the guy in the upper body, you can briefly see it in the video.
This is a prime example of when inbred idiots collide. Both sides are ****ing idiots. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys get off with something much much less than murder.
The guy in orange multiple times said he was going to kill them, intent. He then has a weapon (the baseball bat), then lets say he raised it to swing it... Clearly could argue it was self defense. Who knows what happened before all of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get off on something because of that. But again both sides are just pure ****ing idiots.
Probably could have got off on everything, until the fat **** with the shotgun executed him with what may have been a headshot.
Wouldn't be surprised if the father gets off since he has a reasonable argument for self defense, the son? not so much.
This is him putting his hands up to defend against the bat or whatever was hit/thrown.
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Appears this happened in Texas, they had no duty to retreat. Old man pops could argue he always carries his pistol... Be a bit harder for junior to explain why he was carrying his shotgun to the trash can, but idk if he exactly needs to in Texas... Pretty sure both are legal.
lol orange shirt and blue shoes
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09-20-2018, 06:06 PM
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Dude in orange was a "big daddy bear" with his big voice and thinking that because his kids were around it changes everything and he can act a fool. I hate to say it, but he was clearly the aggressor here.
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I just seen the video earlier. So many things wrong with this story. First off, why do they only have a $25,000 bail? They should be held without bail or with a $500,000 bail at least. Second, if you're outnumbered and outgunned, it's probably not a good idea to continue the confrontation or escalate the situation.
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Thread title needs to be changed to "Trash shoots trash over trash"
09-20-2018, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
i can confirm, this is from Trailer Park Boys.Pretty sure this is from Trailer Park Boys
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At the end of the day, it's just nice to see a father making the time to do things with his son.
Apparently dead guy was a complete lunatic. These are from his FB:


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Originally Posted By theGoldenGod⏩
lmao on spreadHave you all not watched the entire video? Seriously I've watched it multiple times and LMAO'd.
First off Orange man according to sources is a known violent drug user. Orange man has a history of drug related violence. Lardford & Son have been his neighbor and know what dealing with him would lead to, hence the guns.
Multiple times, not only does Orange man threaten to kill them, but directs his family members to bring him weapons (bb gun, and bat) so he can kill them.
Neither of those weapons are as deadly outright as a gun, but if he overpowers them and takes their guns, those two lard tards are dead. Hence why they have a good reason to fear for their life.
Before the shooting starts, Orange man now has a weapon - a bat. This is why gramps McLard advises him to stay atleast 3ft away from him. Orange man declines the advice and aggressively moves towards him.
Lardtits Sr. was well within in his right to shoot. He probably missed every shot or did little damage because Orange man is still up and then continues his aggression and throws the bat.
That's when Lardtits Jr. realizes that this is a short range altercation, all his Xbox training makes him realize that this requires a shotgun.
That's when Orange man has his skull cap confirmed.
First off Orange man according to sources is a known violent drug user. Orange man has a history of drug related violence. Lardford & Son have been his neighbor and know what dealing with him would lead to, hence the guns.
Multiple times, not only does Orange man threaten to kill them, but directs his family members to bring him weapons (bb gun, and bat) so he can kill them.
Neither of those weapons are as deadly outright as a gun, but if he overpowers them and takes their guns, those two lard tards are dead. Hence why they have a good reason to fear for their life.
Before the shooting starts, Orange man now has a weapon - a bat. This is why gramps McLard advises him to stay atleast 3ft away from him. Orange man declines the advice and aggressively moves towards him.
Lardtits Sr. was well within in his right to shoot. He probably missed every shot or did little damage because Orange man is still up and then continues his aggression and throws the bat.
That's when Lardtits Jr. realizes that this is a short range altercation, all his Xbox training makes him realize that this requires a shotgun.
That's when Orange man has his skull cap confirmed.
09-20-2018, 08:38 PM
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You can't go around with a gun, and provoking them to "attack" you so you u can kill them in "self defense".
The fact that you are carrying with an intentional to provoke someone to shoot them, is clear mens rea for a murder charge.
The fact that you are carrying with an intentional to provoke someone to shoot them, is clear mens rea for a murder charge.
09-21-2018, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted By LeJR⏩
You don't appear to be that smart.You can't go around with a gun, and provoking them to "attack" you so you u can kill them in "self defense".
The fact that you are carrying with an intentional to provoke someone to shoot them, is clear mens rea for a murder charge.
The fact that you are carrying with an intentional to provoke someone to shoot them, is clear mens rea for a murder charge.
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I seen that video earlier...
Like many posters have stated, everyone involved is just trash... This happened over a damn mattress
Unfortunately because of the actions of the guy in orange, those guys might actually get off... The guy repeatedly shouted he was going to kill them and apparently swung a bat before getting shot... I've testified in cases , I know how defense lawyers act, which is why I believe those idiots might actually get off
Trash all around
Like many posters have stated, everyone involved is just trash... This happened over a damn mattress
Unfortunately because of the actions of the guy in orange, those guys might actually get off... The guy repeatedly shouted he was going to kill them and apparently swung a bat before getting shot... I've testified in cases , I know how defense lawyers act, which is why I believe those idiots might actually get off
Trash all around
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When the lady says you won’t shoot pretty you hear a gun shot right after that? She even said old fatty shot right by her?
Is that what causes orange shirt to go close with that bat or piece of wood? Cause mcfatfat just shot past orange rednecks wifey??
If old fatty shot first wouldn’t orange shirt tradie just be defending himself/ ugly wife?
Is that what causes orange shirt to go close with that bat or piece of wood? Cause mcfatfat just shot past orange rednecks wifey??
If old fatty shot first wouldn’t orange shirt tradie just be defending himself/ ugly wife?
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Originally Posted By Ochosiete⏩
Yup.I seen that video earlier...
Like many posters have stated, everyone involved is just trash... This happened over a damn mattress
Unfortunately because of the actions of the guy in orange, those guys might actually get off... The guy repeatedly shouted he was going to kill them and apparently swung a bat before getting shot... I've testified in cases , I know how defense lawyers act, which is why I believe those idiots might actually get off
Trash all around
Like many posters have stated, everyone involved is just trash... This happened over a damn mattress
Unfortunately because of the actions of the guy in orange, those guys might actually get off... The guy repeatedly shouted he was going to kill them and apparently swung a bat before getting shot... I've testified in cases , I know how defense lawyers act, which is why I believe those idiots might actually get off
Trash all around
"Feared for my life". ANd to add insult the orange guy physically assaulted the old guy so a defense lawyer could spin it away.
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