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post 1568047491 12-07-2018, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Fixed.

Look up "alpha male" for humans srs.. Science doesnt think it exists because of exactly what you said.

But some of it is definitely true. Women are attracted to certain traits

Again, i think someone who knows how to carry themselves, ask the right questions, push the right buttons at the right time would merk all of them

I would say einstein COULD use this best, but its certainly no guarantee he knows sociality as much as his logic
I feel like Stalin would have killed all those people and fuked their women in front of them. But Einstein knew so much, he'd be invaluable to Stalin so maybe Stalin would have to play nice. Or maybe Bill could bribe Stalin. Maybe Arnold would be so aesthetic, Stalin would be on his dink trying to get tips on how to get jacked. Hard to say who is most alpha.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I feel like Stalin would have killed all those people and fuked their women in front of them. But Einstein knew so much, he'd be invaluable to Stalin so maybe Stalin would have to play nice. Or maybe Bill could bribe Stalin. Maybe Arnold would be so aesthetic, Stalin would be on his dink trying to get tips on how to get jacked. Hard to say who is most alpha.
Yea thats true. I was assuming we stay civil/ in confines of law

If no law, thats a whole different ballgame.

If no law, id say arnold or einstein. Where arnold is most physical but einstein could be pure evil; e.g. using atomic bomb nefariously
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Most people don't even think about the hierarchy. They unconsciously take part in it though.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Yea thats true. I was assuming we stay civil/ in confines of law

If no law, thats a whole different ballgame.

If no law, id say arnold or einstein. Where arnold is most physical but einstein could be pure evil; e.g. using atomic bomb nefariously
Stalin writes the law boyo. lmao

My mind is still blown at how any one man could ever attain that kind of power and not be immediately murdered. It really defies all logic to me.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Stalin writes the law boyo. lmao

My mind is still blown at how any one man could ever attain that kind of power and not be immediately murdered. It really defies all logic to me.
Well, i still think einstein is smart enough to figure out a way to use his intelligence. I really think he has the most power, just depends on how he uses it

Stalin and gates are in different groups imo. Not underestimating their attractiveness but i dont think its inherent power like arnold or einstein.

If no law, that really changes things a lot. That brings back a really outlawed sexual strategy used by men. Where most guys are already more physical so all of this illustrious dance were talking about may not even be necessary; which is why i assumed we were staying civil
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I can't believe I actually read all of that.


It's women's fault that men have different strengths and weaknesses and that women choose who to fuk based on what their preferences are. Duh.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
a woman's attraction to a man is personal and teleological
nah bra, is texnological
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Originally Posted By solidus2k3⏩
nah bra, is texnological
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God damnit wincel

Look, women don'tconsciouslyselect men based on some hierarchy. It's subconscious and it's subject to their own subjective perceptions and opinions. Yes, a linear dominance hierarchy that women consciously categorize men with and choose men who are at the top would be stupid. It's also not reality.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It is so primitive and stupid. Not everything about a person is such that they can be correctly ranked on a single linear scale.Sloots seem to find dominant men attractive, but what do you do if you have like Einstein in a room vs prime Arnold vs Joseph Stalin vs Bill Gates or some chit? Who is the most dominant? Is it Stalin because he'd just have everyone killed? Is it Bill because he COULD have everyone killed? Is it Einstein because he could probably work out how to kill everyone in a ridiculous way? Is it Arnold because he could physically beat down and probably kill those other dudes 1v1? Who has the most power in that room? Or do sloots just fuk all of them and hope they get a baby?

It doesn't make sense. People can be dominant in one arena and pathetic in another. Who is the alpha in the above list? Or do you just have to be alpha at something?

If dominance is attained by personal challenges, it is not always clear a top alpha exists in those challenges. Example: Bob can beat Tom. Tom can beat Joe. Joe can beat Bob. Joe challenges Tom and loses. Tom challenges Bob and loses. Bob is declared alpha. But Bob still could lose to Joe.

Maybe even the most seemingly Chad person could get mogged by some random and appear less dominant in something. What the fuk is the point? We all survived damnit. We are all here now. And each of us, no matter our wealth, strength, intelligence, political power, etc is fully capable of defeating any other person in some contrived circumstance.

So, what the fuk is the point of the hierarchy? How can there even be a hierarchy?

Conclusion: All sloots are fuking retarded and will hop from dink to dink, comparing men pairwise against others in some contrived scenarios without realizing their comparisons are fuking stupid. It's impossible to justify yourself as "the best" man. You have strengths and weaknesses. These sloots can always find some weakness and compare you to another. They'll never be content that you are the most dominant man unless you voluntarily restrict yourself to arenas which make you look alpha. Ironically, this is the most beta chit ever because people like that never challenge themselves.

What a joke.
If there were one chick in that room, she'd pick the one she thought was most valuable. If there were multiple chicks, they'd all do the same, pick the ones they think hold most value. All of those guys are valuable men in their own way, so they're bound to get picked by someone, even if they're not the most "dominant" man in the room. As long as you have good genetics in some way.

Wincel you're looking too much at the genetics you don't have, instead of using the genetics you do.
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Bro you do realise that even the person that invented the concept of "alpha" etc thinks he was wrong?

A guy in an office is not "alpha" because he has the power to get h.r. to fire you lmao

You need to reassess how you look at life op.

Maybe then you won't be so angry
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It's funny that you're confused about the irrational nature of human attraction because I would've thought from other posts that you've made that you already understood that.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It is so primitive and stupid. Not everything about a person is such that they can be correctly ranked on a single linear scale. Sloots seem to find dominant men attractive, but what do you do if you have like Einstein in a room vs prime Arnold vs Joseph Stalin vs Bill Gates or some chit? Who is the most dominant? Is it Stalin because he'd just have everyone killed? Is it Bill because he COULD have everyone killed? Is it Einstein because he could probably work out how to kill everyone in a ridiculous way? Is it Arnold because he could physically beat down and probably kill those other dudes 1v1? Who has the most power in that room? Or do sloots just fuk all of them and hope they get a baby?

It doesn't make sense. People can be dominant in one arena and pathetic in another. Who is the alpha in the above list? Or do you just have to be alpha at something?

If dominance is attained by personal challenges, it is not always clear a top alpha exists in those challenges. Example: Bob can beat Tom. Tom can beat Joe. Joe can beat Bob. Joe challenges Tom and loses. Tom challenges Bob and loses. Bob is declared alpha. But Bob still could lose to Joe.

Maybe even the most seemingly Chad person could get mogged by some random and appear less dominant in something. What the fuk is the point? We all survived damnit. We are all here now. And each of us, no matter our wealth, strength, intelligence, political power, etc is fully capable of defeating any other person in some contrived circumstance.

So, what the fuk is the point of the hierarchy? How can there even be a hierarchy?

Conclusion: All sloots are fuking retarded and will hop from dink to dink, comparing men pairwise against others in some contrived scenarios without realizing their comparisons are fuking stupid. It's impossible to justify yourself as "the best" man. You have strengths and weaknesses. These sloots can always find some weakness and compare you to another. They'll never be content that you are the most dominant man unless you voluntarily restrict yourself to arenas which make you look alpha. Ironically, this is the most beta chit ever because people like that never challenge themselves.

What a joke.
Op, your thread is great and very interesting.

But, you have to realize that women are driven by their primitive instincts as we men do and that is.

Men are attracted to beauty, and women are attracted to power, strength, dominance and masculinity. The problem is that modern societies aren’t the same as the primitive societies in ancient days, but the primitive women’s instincts remain the same. This gap between social conditions in modern societies and primitive women’s instincts provoke problems, issues, and I predict that in the future the relationships between the 2 genders will get even worst.

So, in the primitive society most women most likely would go with Arnold in order to survive in the jungle from the huge monsters ready to eat them and their kids. So, Arnold can kill the enemies, because he is strong, he is not afraid the challenge, he is not sensitive at all and he can destroy the enemies when needed. On the other hand, Einstein is weak, sensitive, intelligent, he is afraid to confront the huge monsters, and he is only good in arts and mathematics, but in this case this won’t gonna help women and their kids to survive…

Now here is the thing, according to several scientific researches, emotionally weak and sensitive people are in most cases the most intelligent people. Those types of men you will find in Universities and Academic environments, or some of them are great authors, artists, musicians, poets, generally people very useful in humanity. Now, guess what, women’s primitive instincts are programmed to destroy those types of men, because women don’t like weak and sensitive guys, it is a huge turn of for them.

So, guys who don’t understand women they’re wondering, but why this sloot don’t appreciate my law degree and master degree in the intellectual property rights, and instead she sucked the d…of the masculine bad boy Club promoter that other night in toilets? The answer is simple, the tall Club promoter represents the strong caveman of the ancient days, and most women don’t have any other choice but to have fun with him, because they feel a strong attraction for him.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Conclusion: All sloots are fuking retarded and will hop from dink to dink, comparing men pairwise against others in some contrived scenarios without realizing their comparisons are fuking stupid.
NAWALT.

Though IMO... power, authority, and status is undeniably very attractive to the majority of women. In the same way that youth is undeniably attractive to the majority of men.

There are women who do learn/train themselves to deeply value other things, besides social dominance. However, again I'm not going to lie and say that I don't think it's the majority that like socially dominant, or low socially inhibited men.

I think I was attractive to women when I was younger IMO because; I'm decent looking, I have an active mind, I was interested in their thoughts and feelings, and we got along with each other. Some women simply like that, and don't care that I'm not an 'alpha male' type.

Only one time when I worked security, and I was seen in a 'authority' position, did I IMO begin to attract women who otherwise would not be attracted to me. I used to have women give me their number, and had women approach me and obviously flirt with (which had never happened before, nor since, to that level) after I began working security. (I had a Girlfriend at the time.)
It's impossible to justify yourself as "the best" man. You have strengths and weaknesses. These sloots can always find some weakness and compare you to another. They'll never be content that you are the most dominant man unless you voluntarily restrict yourself to arenas which make you look alpha. Ironically, this is the most beta chit ever because people like that never challenge themselves.
You're reinforcing the same mindset that you are arguing against.

Calling someone beta, or alpha, promotes the same hyperawareness of social hierarchy that you are complaining about.
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Originally Posted By bjjruinedmylife⏩
Bro you do realise that even the person that invented the concept of "alpha" etc thinks he was wrong?

A guy in an office is not "alpha" because he has the power to get h.r. to fire you
Tell that to Gmiscer lol
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Originally Posted By adonio577777⏩
Op, your thread is great and very interesting.

But, you have to realize that women are driven by their primitive instincts as we men do and that is.

Men are attracted to beauty, and women are attracted to power, strength, dominance and masculinity. The problem is that modern societies aren’t the same as the primitive societies in ancient days, but the primitive women’s instincts remain the same. This gap between social conditions in modern societies and primitive women’s instincts provoke problems, issues, and I predict that in the future the relationships between the 2 genders will get even worst.

So, in the primitive society most women most likely would go with Arnold in order to survive in the jungle from the huge monsters ready to eat them and their kids. So, Arnold can kill the enemies, because he is strong, he is not afraid the challenge, he is not sensitive at all and he can destroy the enemies when needed. On the other hand, Einstein is weak, sensitive, intelligent, he is afraid to confront the huge monsters, and he is only good in arts and mathematics, but in this case this won’t gonna help women and their kids to survive…

Now here is the thing, according to several scientific researches, emotionally weak and sensitive people are in most cases the most intelligent people. Those types of men you will find in Universities and Academic environments, or some of them are great authors, artists, musicians, poets, generally people very useful in humanity. Now, guess what, women’s primitive instincts are programmed to destroy those types of men, because women don’t like weak and sensitive guys, it is a huge turn of for them.

So, guys who don’t understand women they’re wondering, but why this sloot don’t appreciate my law degree and master degree in the intellectual property rights, and instead she sucked the d…of the masculine bad boy Club promoter that other night in toilets? The answer is simple, the tall Club promoter represents the strong caveman of the ancient days, and most women don’t have any other choice but to have fun with him, because they feel a strong attraction for him.
I'm not so sure. Einstein would have made a weapon and easily killed Arnold. I'm not sure it is so simple. People like him learn and figure out things so quickly that, if used to harm others, they could achieve destruction on an incredible scale. A lot of physicists are also very good at building gadgets. I know a dude who legit builds electron microscopes from spare parts and built a fusor device for fun. Someone like this would have easily fastened a bow and some arrows, a bomb, or any other weapon appropriate of the times to give himself an advantage.

There are also a lot of super intelligent types who could hardly be called emotionally weak. Isaac Newton was a fuking bully, and by all accounts, a total dick to everyone lol. I'd hardly consider him weak or sensitive. I think it's a mix tbh. By all accounts, Arnold is a very sensitive and emotional man.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I'm not so sure. Einstein would have made a weapon and easily killed Arnold. I'm not sure it is so simple. People like him learn and figure out things so quickly that, if used to harm others, they could achieve destruction on an incredible scale. A lot of physicists are also very good at building gadgets. I know a dude who legit builds electron microscopes from spare parts and built a fusor device for fun. Someone like this would have easily fastened a bow and some arrows, a bomb, or any other weapon appropriate of the times to give himself an advantage.

There are also a lot of super intelligent types who could hardly be called emotionally weak. Isaac Newton was a fuking bully, and by all accounts, a total dick to everyone lol. I'd hardly consider him weak or sensitive. I think it's a mix tbh. By all accounts, Arnold is a very sensitive and emotional man.
Arnold of course is a good guy, but I just mentioned him in order to understand my point

Op, in ancient days people like Einstein were the epitome of the beta male. In the ancient days according to several studies, the alphas like Arnold had a team of women on his house to serve him and make kids with him etc, and guys like Einstein were FA losers…

Thus women don’t like emotionally weak guys, because these guys won’t help them to survive in the jungle and protect the kids. You have to understand that attraction are driven by our own primitive instincts, otherwise you will not be able to understand women.
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Originally Posted By adonio577777⏩
Arnold of course is a good guy, but I just mentioned him in order to understand my point

Op, in ancient days people like Einstein were the epitome of the beta male. In the ancient days according to several studies, the alphas like Arnold had a team of women on his house to serve him and make kids with him etc, and guys like Einstein were FA losers…

Thus women don’t like emotionally weak guys, because these guys won’t help them to survive in the jungle and protect the kids. You have to understand that attraction are driven by our own primitive instincts, otherwise you will not be able to understand women.
IDK I feel like Einstein would have been one of those politicians commanding guys like Arnold. Chit he almost ended up Israel's first head of state. I think it is more like the other guy said, it is a kind of averaging or optimizing among a large number of possible traits. But it's not clear how that is done. I would think Arnold would be much more attractive than Einstein to most women because he had good looks but also enjoyed a very distinguished career of fame and power.
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Originally Posted By spadelexus⏩
Here is how it works Op...

To aquire women you need at least one of these:

1. Looks
2. Money
3. Status

At the top of the food chain are guys with status. Then come guys with money, then guys with looks at the bottom.

An argument can be made that for sex, guys with money trump all...as they can simply buy pussy faster than high status/high looks level guys can "game" girls into bed.

However since most girls aren't pros this scenario sums it up best (although another argument can be made that for $1 billion dollars a guy can turn a nun out)...

Imagine a slightly above average 6/10 American girl who is a Phish head. She gets three invitations from three guys asking her out on a dinner date that will be followed by sex. The invitations are from:

1. 60 year old bald/fat billionaire
2. 9/10 GQ model
3. Trey Anastasio (the lead singer of phish who is also old/ugly as phuck)

Trey gets the date erry time. You can apply the same logic to famous athletes, movie stars, bosses etc...

Despite what gets tossed around many different forums including this one. The most attractive trait a man can have is the ability to lead, command attention, and get respect from other men.

An 8/10 male janitor isn't smashing the 8/10 secretary. Her 5/10 boss is.

So to answer your question: Stalin gets the girl.
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The hierarchy is relative to each field.

In computers Bill Gates is at the top.
In science, Einstein is at the top.

Etc..

In other words... there's more than ONE.

What exactly are you confused about? This is pretty simple dude... Go read some books.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
No. It is completely normal to have this. What I am trying to understand is what the ranking system is. People talk about "social status" and the "dominance hierarchy" as important to women. I am asking how we can even define a person's social status since it varies from arena to arena. Bill Gates may be wealthy, for example. But he would have low status among men in an MMA arena or at the gym or at a conference of researchers...
I think it depends on the woman's core values, and presuppositions.

Some liberal women may genuinely be turned off, and even disgusted by, someone who is a decent looking white nationalist leader.

However, a pro-white nationalist female is going to be very turned off, and even disgusted by, a decent looking liberal political leader (even if they are white).

There are women who genuinely don't find violent career criminals or quasi sociopaths attractive (ie. bad boys), but are very attracted to the male leaders of a charity or volunteer group.
I suppose sloots just choose whoever seems dominant in arenas they are interested in and communities of which they are a part.
I think you are spot on.
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Originally Posted By Chrysippus⏩
Look, women don'tconsciouslyselect men based on some hierarchy. It's subconscious and it's subject to their own subjective perceptions and opinions. Yes, a linear dominance hierarchy that women consciously categorize men with and choose men who are at the top would be stupid. It's also not reality.
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