If I Don't Have Visible Abs By January 1st, Ban Me for 2019 (SRS)

12-13-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

since i will not be reachable through here lol

12-13-2018, 04:06 PM

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Good luck op, you can do it

12-13-2018, 04:15 PM

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you brehs really think i would be further along if i hadn't done the 500 or so net kcals a day in cardio and had instead just done tons of lifting? i've only missed like 3 days of lifting since oct 1 (too sick and tweaked back muscle) but it was low volume until yesterday

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12-13-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted By RileyRach⏩

why the fuk isnt there pics?

https://imgur.com/a/Dtmrijh

new pic on jan 1

a lot further along than dec 1 rite now srs

i finally started losing from gut and love handles

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12-13-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

https://imgur.com/a/Dtmrijh

new pic on jan 1

a lot further along than dec 1 rite now srs

i finally started losing from gut and love handles

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12-13-2018, 04:24 PM

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Stop being so melodramatic and just ask the mods not to ban you. I'm quite sure they'll give you a pass on your under estimation of how much you needed to lose.

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12-13-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted By RileyRach⏩

You're not far off srs

i can feel all of my ab separations under the flab fwiw lol

genetics haven't made me fatter, but they've given me gut fat until the very last lb. everyone i know carries fat in a more distributed fashion, even both my brothers.

it's bullchit, so i'm gonna get lean and stay lean no matter what. sick of this bullchit.

Originally Posted By Legz422⏩

Stop being so melodramatic and just ask the mods not to ban you. I'm quite sure they'll give you a pass on your under estimation of how much you needed to lose.

i'm gonna enforce the ban myself even if they don't until i hit 12% srs

i predict that i'm gonna have a decent physique overall (for a 37yo lol) by the end of 2019 ded srs

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12-13-2018, 04:36 PM

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**** ur face lost fat so fast. face fat is the last thing to come off for me

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12-13-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

genetics haven't made me fatter, but they've given me gut fat until the very last lb. everyone i know carries fat in a more distributed fashion, even both my brothers.

Tits and love handles last to go crew. Makes me want to diet longer and to a lower weight/bf than I realistically should. Feelsbad

12-13-2018, 04:41 PM

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12-13-2018, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩

I'm trying to remember why I dislike you. Can you remind me?

can't remember. did you recently have bad taste?

Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩

**** ur face lost fat so fast. face fat is the last thing to come off for me

maybe i actually won the genetic lottery since it's all about the face? (no rudy)

Originally Posted By RileyRach⏩

you should be doing a 1000 cal deficit. You dont have much muscle so you dont need to worry too much about losing muscle mass or whatever. Getting lean is your priority, gains will come very fast after that. Muscle memory and all

i've been losing 2lbs a week, so it must be 1k. my knees are rekt so i can walk forever but running is a no go.

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12-13-2018, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

you brehs really think i would be further along if i hadn't done the 500 or so net kcals a day in cardio and had instead just done tons of lifting? i've only missed like 3 days of lifting since oct 1 (too sick and tweaked back muscle) but it was low volume until yesterday

Personally, yeah. Did you not lift at all?

It's called nutrient partitioning, broski. That and body composition.

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12-13-2018, 05:01 PM

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How visible are we talking here? If we're talking about a bare outline of abs while flexing and under good lighting, it can't be that hard.

12-13-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩

Personally, yeah. Did you not lift at all?

It's called nutrient partitioning, broski. That and body composition.

i've been doing either a push/pull or an upper/lower the whole time but i did low volume so my carb requirement would be low. might've been a mistake. lifting with more volume would make me lightheaded if i didn't eat more carbs. can't live like that and never adapted to the point where that didn't happen. i eat carbs when i'm feeling lightheaded, not when i'm hungry. if i'm hungry, i just drink a cup of green tea and i'm good. chit has been awesome, but i'm to the point now where i can just ignore hunger completely and i'm fine.

Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩

How visible are we talking here? If we're talking about a bare outline of abs while flexing and under good lighting, it can't be that hard.

i'm gonna take the pic under the same lighting, but i'll probably flex lol

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12-13-2018, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

i've been doing either a push/pull or an upper/lower the whole time but i did low volume so my carb requirement would be low. might've been a mistake. lifting with more volume would make me lightheaded if i didn't eat more carbs. can't live like that and never adapted to the point where that didn't happen. i eat carbs when i'm feeling lightheaded, not when i'm hungry. if i'm hungry, i just drink a cup of green tea and i'm good. chit has been awesome, but i'm to the point now where i can just ignore hunger completely and i'm fine.

i'm gonna take the pic under the same lighting, but i'll probably flex lol

Some of the advice I see is to keep intensity high while reducing volume on a cut, at least on a dramatic cut. Maintaining high volumes on a hypocaloric diet is tough and probably not wise for recovery sake.

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12-13-2018, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

cliffs: fuark

i think my cut is still going to be considered to be legit, i just called the timing wrong. need another month probably

i took the advice posted here and increased my lifting volume by a factor of 5 lol

not gonna make a difference for the cut, but i'm at least gonna take lifting seriously from now on

remember me when i'm gone, boyos

gonna keep posting a pic in that gallery in my sig every month from now on until the earth burns up in the sun srs

hopefully we can change this so i'm banned from the 1st until the misc agrees that i'm at 12%

what do you guys think about that?

No, no ban. You gave a honest effort.

No need for a ban

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12-13-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩

No, no ban. You gave a honest effort.

No need for a ban

should be possible for me to eke out another 4-5lbs by the end. on my small frame, that's actually gonna be noticeable

everyone irl is commenting on how much leaner i am. inb4 my mom at christmas starts hassling me about it lol

i've reached terminator mode where i can cut forever and i don't care. never had this focus before. feels good

my problem is that i can pull hot sloots as a fatso so i never had the motivation to take this seriously. for years i would do like 1 full body workout per week lol

i'm gonna be pulling models in 2019 ded srs. those gifs are gonna be next level

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12-13-2018, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted By BOZZ⏩

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whaddya think about unbanning when i hit 12% if i don't make it?

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12-13-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

whaddya think about unbanning when i hit 12% if i don't make it?

you aren't gonna hit 12%, isn't even worth the effort to go that low without a base of muscle underneath. Not from only from an aesthetics standpoint but from a sanity standpoint. 12% is lean as fck, and without much mass underneath you'd have to truly starve yourself to get there, not worth it at all imo

shave the stomach and hit abs everyday until jan, also learn how to take pics in good lighting and you can still make the deadline (maybe)

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12-13-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted By hiimnotcool⏩

I'm down for a Seattle meet-up too boyos, it's like 15 mIles from me

fuarkk innn

Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

probably use a penis pump with that insulin pump. neither one produces a real result, son boy piss

i'll give one of you seattle boyos my number since i will not be reachable through here lol

not exactly sure how long this cut is gonna take but i'm gonna be drinking champs on new years with a gal and then not a drop until 12%

yeah brah you can just pm me your number i'll hit you up

unless all you brahs got snapchat, we can get a group chat up

gonna be fukin epic. the greatest misc meetup of the decade

btw OP this is the one time i'll recommend a PSMF. you don't have much time. if you do PSMF right it'll shed off some fat pretty quickly and maybe its what you need for the abs to show

12-13-2018, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

i'm gonna take the pic under the same lighting, but i'll probably flex lol

We never set up a real criteria, so as long as something is showing you should be good. Even a 2 pack counts as "abs."

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

should be possible for me to eke out another 4-5lbs by the end. on my small frame, that's actually gonna be noticeable

everyone irl is commenting on how much leaner i am. inb4 my mom at christmas starts hassling me about it lol

i've reached terminator mode where i can cut forever and i don't care. never had this focus before. feels good

my problem is that i can pull hot sloots as a fatso so i never had the motivation to take this seriously. for years i would do like 1 full body workout per week lol

i'm gonna be pulling models in 2019 ded srs. those gifs are gonna be next level

Look brother I'm going to need you around for my cut.

I started behind you but I'm doing it with you.

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12-13-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩

We never set up a real criteria, so as long as something is showing you should be good. Even a 2 pack counts as "abs."

intredasting.

Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩

Look brother I'm going to need you around for my cut.

I started behind you but I'm doing it with you.

i'm gonna give it my all, mano

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12-13-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

you brehs really think i would be further along if i hadn't done the 500 or so net kcals a day in cardio and had instead just done tons of lifting? i've only missed like 3 days of lifting since oct 1 (too sick and tweaked back muscle) but it was low volume until yesterday

Cardio burns a ton of calories but those can be burned just as easily from muscle as fat. Lifting helps prevent muscle loss and ya may even have some gains.

As someone who regularly got professional body fat tests over the years, ive seen in myself how any type of regular cardio will instantly make at least 25% of my loss come from mass.

Im the opposite now and will try my upmost to not do any cardio. I can lose fine down to 10% with just lifting and diet. Under 10% progress will greatly slow. Ill still rather add 2 per day lifting sessions before adding cardio. Ill wind up adding it in for the last couple percent but haven't found a way to get away from it completely

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12-13-2018, 06:17 PM

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You make good money go buy Lyle McDonalds plan tonight then.

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12-13-2018, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted By SugarFree1⏩

Cardio burns a ton of calories but those can be burned just as easily from muscle as fat. Lifting helps prevent muscle loss and ya may even have some gains.

As someone who regularly got professional body fat tests over the years, ive seen in myself how any type of regular cardio will instantly make at least 25% of my loss come from mass.

Im the opposite now and will try my upmost to not do any cardio. I can lose fine down to 10% with just lifting and diet. Under 10% progress will greatly slow. Ill still rather add 2 per day lifting sessions before adding cardio. Ill wind up adding it in for the last couple percent but haven't found a way to get away from it completely

fuark. i chose walking because i figured it would be the least catabolic and lowest carb requirement. dunno if i would even notice muscle loss anyway

Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩

You make good money go buy Lyle McDonalds plan tonight then.

i'm not gonna do a PSMF, which i think RFL is pretty much. i'm pretty confident i can do another 5lbs and hire a lighting expert

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12-13-2018, 06:27 PM

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All cardio does is offset you calories. I only use cardio for either general heart health, or so I can eat more foods I want and still hit macros during a deficit.

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[QUOTE=Luc1fer post_id=1568590921]All cardio does is offset you calories. I only use cardio for either general heart health, or so I can eat more foods I want and still hit macros during a deficit.

[img]https://cdn2.theheartysoul.com/uploads/2018/08/Aug20_Part02_07Fb_Fat-Pyramid.jpg[img][/QUOTE]the cardio constitutes half my deficit though. wood have to eat 1100 to be in the same spot without it