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Thread: Two Scandinavian women killed in Morocco

post 1569099351 12-20-2018, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted By GravityLee⏩
Immigrants to Denmark from Morocco are twice as likely to commit violent crimes. Morocco is just another chithole country with many poor violent people. If you search this data for other civilized countries youre going to find similar data this was just the first chart that showed up.



I stand by what i said. Dont ever be politically correct where your life is concerned. Someone is suggesting you go to a poor violent chithole for cultural enrichment? Dont.
Whats sick about that graph is that it looks like it's the offsprings of the immigrants that is most likely to do the crimes, then again I don't know how many offsprings the avg immigrant get, if an avg couple get 4 children, then its still really the immigrants that are the worst.
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Originally Posted By BornAgainNatty⏩
To everyone that watched the video, you are sik fuks. You say "Oh it's terrible don't watch it." well why would you recommend other people not watch it when you when and sought it out for yourself? the fact of the matter is you wanted to see them die and nothing will ever change that.
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I did not want to see a helpless girl to be butchered , sometimes its good to watch the darkest thing to know whats really out there
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Originally Posted By mrsloppyfist⏩
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I did not want to see a helpless girl to be butchered ,sometimes its good to watch the darkest thing to know whats really out there
Rationalise it however you want but you knew exactly what you were getting into. Just say you were morbidly curious, none of this "wanted to see what is out there" rubbish.
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All sentiments about level of safety in any given country aside, I've always felt like no one wants to address the real elephant in the room when it comes to stories like this. That is that females really shouldn't travel to remote camping/hiking/etc. on their own without at least one reasonably capable, well-trusted man accompanying them or their group. It's not about sexism or saying females aren't "equal" to males, it's acknowledging simple biological facts and typical risks associated with those types of situations. Basically, people who would be considered weak targets to a lot of people (i.e. most females are easy targets for grown men 1 on 1) should be smart about how they do things like travel around remote areas.

The more capable males in the group, the less of a target that group and individuals in it will be, including against both other people and wild predator animals (mountain lions, etc.) that more frequently target children and such due to their smaller size. Furthermore, anyone out doing that sort of stuff should be packing at least a large hunting style knife on them at a minimum, and preferably packing legit heat in many of those situations - again, for protection against wild animals and potentially bad people. Too bad so many people seem to struggle with setting their egos/political agendas aside to with serious matters like this.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
No idea why theres a debate on religion ITT. It's a socioeconomic issue. Poverty and lack of higher learning produce a lot of degenerates. A group of people with no opportunity and no education that places emphasis on humanity will churn out a handful of criminals, every time. I grew up in a poor province in Vietnam and I see people like this all the time, some of the kids i went to school with were now in gangs or in prison for murder. You see a lot of similar cases in urban gangs, too, even in first world countries.
Some people are in poverty because their genetic lineage is sheit tier. Some humans are worth more than others, doesnt matter how much learning and opportunity you through at some people.
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
so you believe morocco is safer than the u.s.? lol, i dont. why dont you move there mayne?

im not arguing with the numbers presented, but i feel there must be a caveat

i would imagine more lawlessness in general and less reports just to start
With respect to murder and rape, yes, according to the data, and only for the average of the US. This is throwing in places like Camden and Baltimore. If we just considered wealthy, educated suburbs of the US, the US would likely be the safest country on the entire planet. But the US is an enire country. If we are eager to generalize Morocco by the actions of a few murderers, we ought to consider our own country in its entirety as well.

Morocco likely has underreporting of crimes, but the idea that it is so vastly underreported as to be underreported by a factor of 4 or 5 is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Let's not forget that the US also has a lot of underreporting of crime as well.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
Some people are in poverty because their genetic lineage is sheit tier. Some humans are worth more than others, doesnt matter how much learning and opportunity you through at some people.
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Originally Posted By mrsloppyfist⏩
LOL @ at thinking murder is reported in 3rd world chit holes just LOL if it was reported it would be 10x more than the USA
And you base this on rectally extracted, original research, I presume?
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watched the video. If parents watch it, they'll probably end up killing themselves. That was no "neck wound" unless you count completely sawing off a head of a conscious person and placing it on their chest a "wound". Fukkin lol at all these ******* media outlets covering up how brutal the kills and rapes were.

mixed feelings here. On one hand nobody really deserves to go out like that.. but on the other - how many times can you warn someone not to go playing with hungry wolves in a dark forest before they finally get torn to shreds?

It was probably extra terrifying for those girls considering how extremely naive, arrogant and sheltered they were. From sunshine, pampering and wanderlust to some of the most brutal reality ever.
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they took a stupid decision and they faced a gruesome consequence

nothing to see here
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
to those of you guys talking about rape and homicide rates....i would think if u were a white european girl traveling it would kind of put a target on your back and make the odds greater of something happening. just my opinion though
Absolutely. Not to blame the victims, but girls should never go hiking alone in a foreign nation. That would be risky even here in the states. People get kidnapped all the time. It is just not safe for women to be going around without men and weapons present.
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I would say at least 1/2 or even 2/3 of the world is just a dump. The human species is being carried by a very small %. The honest and intelligent few have to suffer and support the rest of the dead weight. A sad story but you have to pick better destinations--especially if you are female traveling without a male--even if it means saving up more. I mean you can't live in fear but you have to research and weigh up the risks. I hope the murders are caught and executed, but the sad thing is killing them doesn't make it even slightly even. Their lives are useless, they took probably 2 useful lives. There needs to be punishments worse than death.

I don't understand the hesitation some people have in admitting some cultures and countries are just not as capable - proven by thousands upon thousands of years of trial. Civilizations are dynamic, there's no equal contributions or abilities, it's scientific and historical fact. When it comes to America, if you cut off the actual areas that are carrying all the weight of negative statistics you're left with a pretty solid country.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
they took a stupid decision and they faced a gruesome consequence

nothing to see here
come on bro

nobody deserves that chit
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
It's the misc, what do you expect? Miscers cant think their way out of a wet paper bag. That's how ignorance grows, dumb people teaching their kids to be dumb too and the cycle continues. The sad thing is we have great information availability and people still dont use it to think outside their own hole, getting boxed into whatever opinion that feeds their paranoia, which is what the US is about: fear and paranoia.
I just don't get how they can make these claims about chithole countries amd rape and murder when our own country has higher rates of both. This is why people think Americans are idiots. Like at least look up something before you try to make a claim.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
With respect to murder and rape, yes, according to the data, and only for the average of the US. This is throwing in places like Camden and Baltimore. If we just considered suburbs of US, the US would likely be the safest country on the entire planet. But the US is an enire country. If we are eager to generalize Morocco by the actions of a few murderers, we ought to consider our own country in its entirety as well.

Morocco likely has underreporting of crimes, but the idea that it is so vastly underreported as to be underreported by a factor of 4 or 5 is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Your claim here is that by isolating out the most statistically dangerous areas of the U.S. and considering only those specific areas, that it would be similarly dangerous to Morocco as a whole country. That's not a fair comparison whatsoever. The United States is approximately 22x the size of Morocco, you can't just say that a select few portions of that territory in the U.S. have similar crime rate statistics as Morocco and therefore the countries as a whole are even remotely comparable when the vast majority of the U.S. is statistically fairly safe overall. Furthermore, I would pretty leery of taking crime statistics of most 3rd world countries purely at face value. Do you seriously trust 3rd world countries that are decades to centuries behind modern 1st world innovations to be as accurate in their reporting/gathering of data on those types of statistics? Honestly, I think you're just being purposely obtuse because facing the common sense facts of the matter probably don't align with your preferred political views very well.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I just don't get how they can make these claims about chithole countries amd rape and murder when our own country has higher rates of both. This is why people think Americans are idiots. Like at least look up something before you try to make a claim.
well in the US i would say a heavy majority of the violence is concentrated into certain areas....and also our police force is top notch compared to other countries so it gives the feeling that its alot safer overall...ive traveled to many different countries and i can tell you that citizens are far more fearful in their countries than in the US, even if on paper its a safer country.
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
come on bro

nobody deserves that chit
i never said they deserved it... im with you on this 110%

but as another miscer mentioned..... you go to a 3rd world country,youre white,blue eyed,slim body.... where all the men has proly banged goats and you decideto hike a mountain all by yourself. i mean ffs its like going for a walk in juarez mexico at night to check the city... sh!t is bound to go side ways
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
Your claim here is that by isolating out the most statistically dangerous areas of the U.S. and considering only those specific areas, that it would be similarly dangerous to Morocco as a whole country. That's not a fair comparison whatsoever. The United States is approximately 22x the size of Morocco, you can't just say that a select few portions of that territory in the U.S. has similar crime statistics as Morocco and therefore the countries as a whole are even remotely comparable when the vast majority of the U.S. is statistically a fairly safe overall. Furthermore, I would pretty leery of taking crime statistic in most 3rd world countries purely at face value. Do you seriously trust 3rd world countries that are decades to centuries behind modern 1st world innovations to be as accurate in their reporting/gathering of data on those types of statistics?
Finally, a logical post.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
No idea why theres a debate on religion ITT. It's a socioeconomic issue. Poverty and lack of higher learning produce a lot of degenerates. A group of people with no opportunity and no education that places emphasis on humanity will churn out a handful of criminals, every time. I grew up in a poor province in Vietnam and I see people like this all the time, some of the kids i went to school with were now in gangs or in prison for murder. You see a lot of similar cases in urban gangs, too, even in first world countries.
Yes, it has nothing to do with religion at all....

Meanwhile back in reality. In 2018 alone there has been 1906 attacks in 54 countries carried out in the name of Islam, resulting in 11,240 deaths & 11,200 injuries.

I see this same sjw argument of it being a socioeconomic issue with other certain groups prone to violence too, but the numbers always tell a different story.

Some of you people live in a fuking fairytale.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Morocco likely has underreporting of crimes, but the idea that it is so vastly underreported as to be underreported by a factor of 4 or 5 is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?
Is it any surprise that rape is underreported since in some Islamic countries the victim is often stoned to death for 'adultery'?

Being raped brings shame upon the family etc.
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Originally Posted By SeymourGains⏩
Some people are in poverty because their genetic lineage is sheit tier. Some humans are worth more than others, doesnt matter how much learning and opportunity you through at some people.
Well it has little to do with genetics. If anything first world countries give more opportunities to people who'd otherwise panhandle and prostitute to survive in third world countries e.g. the Kardashians.
Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
Maybe because some religions promote the killing of nonbelievers and anyone who does something that goes against their beliefs ? But hey you saw some mean people in Asia too so the teachings of Islam have nothing to do with violence in other parts of the world
Yeah some religions promote killing of nonbelievers, but that is another debate entirely, because there isnt anything about this scenario that suggests its religiously motivated. I see a couple of uncouth degenerates killing for fun/rape and you see a handful of Islamists murdering nonbelievers, all because the killing happened to he in Morocco? You're a dummy pal.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
Your claim here is that by isolating out the most statistically dangerous areas of the U.S. and considering only those specific areas, that it would be similarly dangerous to Morocco as a whole country. That's not a fair comparison whatsoever. The United States is approximately 22x the size of Morocco, you can't just say that a select few portions of that territory in the U.S. has similar crime statistics as Morocco and therefore the countries as a whole are even remotely comparable when the vast majority of the U.S. is statistically a fairly safe overall. Furthermore, I would pretty leery of taking crime statistic in most 3rd world countries purely at face value. Do you seriously trust 3rd world countries that are decades to centuries behind modern 1st world innovations to be as accurate in their reporting/gathering of data on those types of statistics?
That is why they compared the rate per capita. That normalizes it by population. The worst parts of the US are actually even worse than the worst parts of Morocco believe it or not. I never said what you are saying btw. I said the average US rape and murder stats are worse than those of Morocco. The data unequivocally supports this claim. Your idea that these "third world" countries have completely nonexistent law enforcement and an inability to keep basic records is coming from a place of unfounded prejudice. There is no reason to believe the country of Morocco cannot have reasonably accurate statistics on their law enforcement. Sure, there may be some underreporting, but the arrogance of "third world = anarchist chithole" is pretty much complete garbage and has been for decades now. Honestly, pretty much every country takes murder and rape very seriously. I'd imagine petty theft and bribery is more common in Morocco though.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Is it any surprise that rape is underreported since in some Islamic countries the victim is often stoned to death for 'adultery'?

Being raped brings shame upon the family etc.
This is true. What a beautiful culture. Feminists need to travel there and also experience actual true oppression.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Yeah some religions promote killing of nonbelievers, but that is another debate entirely, because there isnt anything about this scenario that suggests its religiously motivated. I see a couple of uncouth degenerates killing for fun/rape and you see a handful of Islamists murdering nonbelievers, all because the killing happened to he in Morocco? You're a dummy pal.
because that's what average rapist does - he takes a few minutes to behead the girl afterwards. definitely unrelated to "rape and behead infidel whores" teachings
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
Is it any surprise that rape is underreported since in some Islamic countries the victim is often stoned to death for 'adultery'?

Being raped brings shame upon the family etc.
Funny thing though. They don't do that in Morocco, and there hasn't been any execution there since the 1990's. But of course you all want to pretend Morocco = Saudi Arabia.

I love how you xenophobic douchebags are completely ignoring how the Moroccan police is fully cooperating with the European police to catch the murderers. I think they will likely extradite them too. But instead of lamenting the murder of women and the evils of the murderers, you guys want to blame an entire country and its culture. The country of Morocco bans and punishes murder, you fuking idiots. The vast majority of Moroccans are people just like you. You all seem to forget that. This goes for every single country we broadly label as "The Enemy". The Enemy is really a group of combatants who want to fuk everything up for everyone else.

You don't seem to understand that in our quest to destroy "The Enemy", in Afghanistan and Iraq, we killed hundreds of times more civilians than died in the 9/11 attack. It was completely irrational. We ended up catching the alleged murderer in Pakistan of all places. How can anyone sit there and cheer for this?

Are you people really that stupid or are you just consumed by hate? You are being manipulated.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Yes, it has nothing to do with religion at all....

Meanwhile back in reality. In 2018 alone there has been 1906 attacks in 54 countries carried out in the name of Islam, resulting in 11,240 deaths & 11,200 injuries.

I see this same sjw argument of it being a socioeconomic issue with other certain groups prone to violence too, but the numbers always tell a different story.

Some of you people live in a fuking fairytale.
You're living in your own head if you think my argument is about Islam in general. I was speaking strictly about this specific murder. There is no evidence its religiously motivated. You act as if only Islamists can behead/rape/murder people. I agree that Islam is a fuked up religion, but similar killings happen quite often in non-Islamic countries as well, the only difference is those cases is that there isnt an i-told-you-so factor that the media can use, so people would pass it off as chitty things happening in in chitty, poverty stricken places, and that's it, as this case should also be.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Funny thing though. They don't do that in Morocco, and there hasn't been any execution there since the 1990's. But of course you all want to pretend Morocco = Saudi Arabia.


That didn’t take long. Lol @ acting like Morocco isn’t some backwards chithole.
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because that's what average rapist does - he takes a few minutes to behead the girl afterwards. definitely unrelated to "rape and behead infidel whores" teachings
Never said they're the average rapists. They're fuked in the heads, whatever their religion is has little to do with their method of killing. In california a few years back theres a model who got kidnapped and raped by four black guys, they took her to a field and nearly severed her head. Again, neither their race nor religion played a part in the brutality, fuked up people do fuked up things, period.
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an american student was stabbed to death in the Netherlands but no one cares because the murderer is white
Netherlands? Na man the Netherlands turned into a muslim ****hole. No whites there
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩


That didn’t take long. Lol @ acting like Morocco isn’t some backwards chithole.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...decency-skirts

Yeah.

Read the whole story.

There was public outcry, and they were acquitted. Clearly the public of Morocco doesn't support the stoning and jailing of women. You take one isolated incident without the whole story and spin it. There are gangs of Islamic fundamentalists there that harass people. There are also people here in the US that will shoot you for wearing the wrong color.

But tell me more about backwards cultures.

It is easy and seductive to blindly hate entire groups of people over the actions of a few of them. This is completely fuking stupid and irrational. Please judge people as individuals and for their individual actions. If you spot correlations, note them as such. For example, Islamic fundamentalism is correlated with terrorism. The probability that a terrorist is an islamic fundamentalist is quite high. The probability that an Islamic fundamentalist is a terrorist still turns out to be somewhat low.

This is explained by the fact that the probability of being a terrorist is very different from that of being an Islamic fundamentalist. Apply Bayes' Theorem, and you will quickly realize that the two terms are not interchangeable. And you guys are taking it even further and attempting to equate Islamic fundamentalism with Islam itself. This fuks it up even more.

And you still cannot conclude a causal relationship. There is simply nothing to justify that at all.
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