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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
You keep saying that race/religion doesn’t play a part, but when certain groups commit crime/violence at a far greater rate than everyone else, regardless of which country they’re in, I would argue it does.Never said they're the average rapists. They're fuked in the heads, whatever their religion is has little to do with their method of killing. In california a few years back theres a model who got kidnapped and raped by four black guys, they took her to a field and nearly severed her head. Again, neither their race nor religion played a part in the brutality, fuked up people do fuked up things, period.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
I'm sure wincel would be completely comfortable with his young adult daughter, if he ever had one, traveling around 3rd world countries like Morocco either completely alone or with groups of only other females. After all, he's been pretty firm in arguing his beliefs that he feels it wouldn't be any more dangerous than if they were to do the same thing in a place like the United States. Surely... SURELY he would be more than comfortable putting his money where his mouth is on the matter if he ever had to consider it beyond a strictly hypothetical context on a personal level. Yep, no doubt he's clearly the kind of guy who holds firm when the rubber meets the road in life.i never said they deserved it... im with you on this 110%
but as another miscer mentioned..... you go to a 3rd world country,youre white,blue eyed,slim body.... where all the men has proly banged goats and you decideto hike a mountain all by yourself. i mean ffs its like going for a walk in juarez mexico at night to check the city... sh!t is bound to go side ways
but as another miscer mentioned..... you go to a 3rd world country,youre white,blue eyed,slim body.... where all the men has proly banged goats and you decideto hike a mountain all by yourself. i mean ffs its like going for a walk in juarez mexico at night to check the city... sh!t is bound to go side ways
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Since men commit far more rapes and significantly more homicides than women, do you also conclude that their gender is one of the main motivators for killing those two girls? Fuking lol.You keep saying that race/religion doesn’t play a part,but when certain groups commit crime/violence at a far greater rate than everyone else, regardless of which country they’re in, I would argue it does.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
We can do this all day:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...decency-skirts
Yeah.
Read the whole story.
There was public outcry, and they were acquitted. Clearly the public of Morocco doesn't support the stoning and jailing of women. You take one isolated incident without the whole story and spin it. There are gangs of Islamic fundamentalists there that harass people. There are also people here in the US that will shoot you for wearing the wrong color.
But tell me more about backwards cultures.
Yeah.
Read the whole story.
There was public outcry, and they were acquitted. Clearly the public of Morocco doesn't support the stoning and jailing of women. You take one isolated incident without the whole story and spin it. There are gangs of Islamic fundamentalists there that harass people. There are also people here in the US that will shoot you for wearing the wrong color.
But tell me more about backwards cultures.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...?noredirect=on
The women’s rights activists were there on behalf of Amina al-Filali, a teenager from the small town of Larache, near Tangiers, who died the previous Saturday after drinking a lethal amount of rat poison. Amina committed suicide following what her father described as a series of brutal beatings by her husband, whom local authorities had pressured her to marry after he allegedly raped her. Witnesses say her husband became so outraged when she drank the poison he dragged her down the street by her hair. She died shortly afterwards.
The Moroccan penal code was updated in 2004 to give women greater rights. But in the case of rape, the burden of proof is often on the victim to prove that she was attacked or risk prosecution for debauchery. While rape is punishable by five to 10 years in prison under Moroccan law, it rises to between 10 and 20 years if the victim is a minor. But a rapist can marry an underage victim in order to preserve the honor of the woman's family.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to defend them. Are you Moroccon?
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12-20-2018, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
I would not. I would not trust her to walk around most of the US unaccompanied either. I see that since you lost the logical debate, you have descended to an emotional ad hominem attack of some sort. Read my earlier argument.I'm sure wincel would be completely comfortable with his young adult daughter, if he ever had one, traveling around 3rd world countries like Morocco either completely alone or with groups of only other females. After all, he's been pretty firm in arguing his beliefs that he feels it wouldn't be any more dangerous than if they were to do the same thing in a place like the United States. Surely... SURELY he would be more than comfortable putting his money where his mouth is on the matter if he ever had to consider it beyond a strictly hypothetical context on a personal level. Yep, no doubt he's clearly the kind of guy who holds firm when the rubber meets the road in life.
Correlation is not causation and Bayes' Theorem holds. Do I need to whip it out for you to suck it too, like Gravity Lee? Damn.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Men are more violent than women. So yes, it’s a factor.Since men commit far more rapes and significantly more homicides than women, do you also conclude that their gender is one of the main motivators for killing those two girls? Fuking lol.
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12-20-2018, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Another ad hominem. No I am not Moroccan. I am American. You are fishing for isolated cases to attempt to prove a general trend. You act like the country of Morocco encourages rape or murder. It does not. That law to marry underage victims has existed in common law for hundreds of years btw. Morocco repealed it in 2014, just one year after Denmark repealed theirs. lolWe can do this all day:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...?noredirect=on
The women’s rights activists were there on behalf of Amina al-Filali, a teenager from the small town of Larache, near Tangiers, who died the previous Saturday after drinking a lethal amount of rat poison. Amina committed suicide following what her father described as a series of brutal beatings by her husband, whom local authorities had pressured her to marry after he allegedly raped her. Witnesses say her husband became so outraged when she drank the poison he dragged her down the street by her hair. She died shortly afterwards.
The Moroccan penal code was updated in 2004 to give women greater rights. But in the case of rape, the burden of proof is often on the victim to prove that she was attacked or risk prosecution for debauchery. While rape is punishable by five to 10 years in prison under Moroccan law, it rises to between 10 and 20 years if the victim is a minor. But a rapist can marry an underage victim in order to preserve the honor of the woman's family.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to defend them. Are you Moroccon?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...?noredirect=on
The women’s rights activists were there on behalf of Amina al-Filali, a teenager from the small town of Larache, near Tangiers, who died the previous Saturday after drinking a lethal amount of rat poison. Amina committed suicide following what her father described as a series of brutal beatings by her husband, whom local authorities had pressured her to marry after he allegedly raped her. Witnesses say her husband became so outraged when she drank the poison he dragged her down the street by her hair. She died shortly afterwards.
The Moroccan penal code was updated in 2004 to give women greater rights. But in the case of rape, the burden of proof is often on the victim to prove that she was attacked or risk prosecution for debauchery. While rape is punishable by five to 10 years in prison under Moroccan law, it rises to between 10 and 20 years if the victim is a minor. But a rapist can marry an underage victim in order to preserve the honor of the woman's family.
Not sure why you’re trying so hard to defend them. Are you Moroccon?
Yes, you read that right. Denmark, a "First world" non chithole country had that same marry your rapist law until 2013. Funny how that works.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
How naive can you be? If a Muslim is beheading people there’s a good chance they’re doing it for religious reasons.Yeah some religions promote killing of nonbelievers, but that is another debate entirely, because there isnt anything about this scenario that suggests its religiously motivated. I see a couple of uncouth degenerates killing for fun/rape and you see a handful of Islamists murdering nonbelievers, all because the killing happened to he in Morocco? You're a dummy pal.
“State television 2M reported on its website that authorities consider the two women’s slayings a terrorist act. Local media reported that the suspects had links to the Islamic State group.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f6b_story.html
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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
How naive can you be to confuse correlation with cause?How naive can you be? If a Muslim is beheading people there’s a good chance they’re doing it for religious reasons.
“State television 2M reported on its website that authorities consider the two women’s slayings a terrorist act. Local media reported that the suspects had links to the Islamic State group.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f6b_story.html
“State television 2M reported on its website that authorities consider the two women’s slayings a terrorist act. Local media reported that the suspects had links to the Islamic State group.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...f6b_story.html
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Like I said, I can go all day with these “isolated” cases. Morocco treats its women just like every other chithole Islamic country.Another ad hominem. No I am not Moroccan. I am American. You are fishing for isolated cases to attempt to prove a general trend. You act like the country of Morocco encourages rape or murder. It does not. That law to marry underage victims has existed in common law for hundreds of years btw. Morocco repealed it in 2014, just one year after Denmark repealed theirs. lol
Yes, you read that right.
Yes, you read that right.
Keep championing them though, it’s not weird at all.
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
i dont think anyone will be comfortable having his young daughter going out alone anywhere... whether its a 1st world country like switzerland or a 3rd world country like moroco or whateverI'm sure wincel would be completely comfortable with his young adult daughter, if he ever had one, traveling around 3rd world countries like Morocco either completely alone or with groups of only other females. After all, he's been pretty firm in arguing his beliefs that he feels it wouldn't be any more dangerous than if they were to do the same thing in a place like the United States. Surely... SURELY he would be more than comfortable putting his money where his mouth is on the matter if he ever had to consider it beyond a strictly hypothetical context on a personal level. Yep, no doubt he's clearly the kind of guy who holds firm when the rubber meets the road in life.
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the world is a dangerous place, and you have to make sure you calculate every single step you make or else bad things will happen
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12-20-2018, 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
So you are done then?Like I said, I can go all day with these “isolated” cases. Morocco treats its women just like every other chithole Islamic country.
Keep championing them though, it’s not weird at all.
Keep championing them though, it’s not weird at all.
And now you just accuse me of being a champion of their country. The only thing I am a champion of is applying logic properly and interpreting data meaningfully.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Are you going to decry men as well as Islam? If not then what is the purpose of your argument?Men are more violent than women. So yes, it’s a factor.
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Originally Posted By Better
No there isnt.bruh, aside from cartels who do it almost exclusively for shock value and scare tactics, nobody else goes around in groups and beheads people. even cuck media links it to "terrorism".
there is a big difference between prejudice and preconception. abandoning the latter to avoid any possible accusations of practicing the former is exactly how you end up on liveleak.
there is a big difference between prejudice and preconception. abandoning the latter to avoid any possible accusations of practicing the former is exactly how you end up on liveleak.
pre·con·cep·tion
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a preconceived idea orprejudice.
Researching your destination should be compulsory, but keep in mind that thousands, if not millions of tourists visit Morocco every year without incidence, despite it being labelled as an Islamist ****hole, that, and the village where the girls were killed being a regular tourist spot tells me it's an isolated incidence./ˌprēkənˈsepSH(ə)n/
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a preconceived idea orprejudice.
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12-20-2018, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Pretty much. There are predators everywhere. I would always want my child to be supervised, accompanied, or armed at virtually all times. You can't even always trust law enforcement since many rapes and sexual assaults are committed by law enforcement officers.i dont think anyone will be comfortable having his young daughter going out alone anywhere... whether its a 1st world country like switzerland or a 3rd world country like moroco or whatever
people and youngesters and specially the instagram/fb chicks need to understand that the world isnt all stars and sun shine......
the world is a dangerous place, and you have to make sure you calculate every single step you make or else bad things will happen
people and youngesters and specially the instagram/fb chicks need to understand that the world isnt all stars and sun shine......
the world is a dangerous place, and you have to make sure you calculate every single step you make or else bad things will happen
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bro, if a minute since they start filming with a knife in your neck is quick for you then you've been watching too many zeta videos boyoSaw the video, at least it was over quick-ish.
Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Yes, there is. Preconception is based on personal experience and observation. Prejudice isn't.No there isnt.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
Well you're from the south so if you fuk someone it's probably because you mistake her for your sister. How about that logic for you?How naive can you be? If a Muslim is beheading people there’s a good chance they’re doing it for religious reasons.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
I tried to slice through some of their prejudices, but it isn't working. I made clear, cogent arguments explaining my point. I see no use in any further attempts. In the end, they have chosen (or been brainwashed to choose) to believe that these "third world chitholes" are entirely populated by enemies of the US, white people, christianity, or whatever and must, therefore be destroyed. They will allow their hatred to inspire them to kill innocents and shed no tears for the lost. They will rationalize that it was necessary. It is funny how they do not see how similar they are to their true enemies. And the banner of patriotism is eerily similar to the one of faith too.Are you going to decry men as well as Islam? If not then what is the purpose of your argument?
No there isnt.
Researching your destination should be compulsory, but keep in mind that thousands, if not millions of tourists visit Morocco every year without incidence, despite it being labelled as an Islamist ****hole, that, and the village where the girls were killed being a regular tourist spot tells me it's an isolated incidence.
No there isnt.
Researching your destination should be compulsory, but keep in mind that thousands, if not millions of tourists visit Morocco every year without incidence, despite it being labelled as an Islamist ****hole, that, and the village where the girls were killed being a regular tourist spot tells me it's an isolated incidence.
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Originally Posted By Better
Then it isnt apreconceptionYes, there is. Preconception is based on personal experience and observation.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
I thought it was pretty obvious. Certain groups are more prone to acts of violence & commit more crimes. So race, religion & gender all are a factor.Are you going to decry men as well as Islam? If not then what is the purpose of your argument?
Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
You can't even put together a coherent argument so now you're resorting to desperate ad hominem attacksWell you're from the south so if you fuk someone it's probably because you mistake her for your sister. How about that logic for you?

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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
I don't think I made my point clear enough. I was trying to say that if he absolutely had to choose between a hypothetical daughter of his traveling around Morocco or the United States alone for some matter of time, according to him, he might as well just toss a coin because he seems to firmly believe that there is no difference in the level of danger she would be in based on which country it was. As in, let's say she walked up to him and told him she was doing one or the other and the ONLY say he had in the matter was which country she'd be traveling about randomly, he had to pick - according to his arguments, that choice would make no difference to him in terms of how he viewed the level of potential dangers involved. Not that he'd actively encourage either to happen.i dont think anyone will be comfortable having his young daughter going out alone anywhere... whether its a 1st world country like switzerland or a 3rd world country like moroco or whatever
people and youngesters and specially the instagram/fb chicks need to understand that the world isnt all stars and sun shine......
the world is a dangerous place, and you have to make sure you calculate every single step you make or else bad things will happen
people and youngesters and specially the instagram/fb chicks need to understand that the world isnt all stars and sun shine......
the world is a dangerous place, and you have to make sure you calculate every single step you make or else bad things will happen
And to be completely clear with all that, I'm joking and implying that he'd just wuss out and pick the U.S. in that instance if those were his two choices. I don't believe for one second that he truly believes what he's saying itt deep down to a point where he'd put his money where his mouth was if he had to face it on a personal level rather than speaking in purely hypothetical liberal utopian ideals.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
you walk home, run into a group of men wearing blue vests - you get beaten and robbed.Then it isnt apreconception
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
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b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
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Your hypothetical scenario isn't specific enough to answer. Where in the US is she walking? How is she dressed? Is she armed?I don't think I made my point clear enough. I was trying to say that if he absolutely had to choose between a hypothetical daughter of his traveling around Morocco or the United States alone for some matter of time, according to him, he might as well just toss a coin because he seems to firmly believe that there is no difference in the level of danger she would be in based on which country it was. As in, let's say she walked up to him and told him she was doing one or the other and the ONLY say he had in the matter was which country she'd be traveling about randomly, he had to pick - according to his arguments, that choice would make no difference to him in terms of how he viewed the level of potential dangers involved. Not that he'd actively encourage either to happen.
The murder stats I quoted were for the entire countries. They are not predictive models for individual action. I would need more specific data to make that comparison.
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Originally Posted By Better
lol reppedyou walk home, run into a group of men wearing blue vests - you get beaten and robbed.
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
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b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
or
b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Since all murderers breathe air maybe oxygen also plays a factor.I thought it was pretty obvious. Certain groups are more prone to acts of violence & commit more crimes. So race, religion & gender all are a factor.
Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
If you’re just going to be a retarded troll, we’re done here.Since all murderers breathe air maybe oxygen also plays a factor.
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[QUOTE=RedPolo post_id=1569101651]You can't even put together a coherent argument so now you're resorting to desperate ad hominem attacks[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img].
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/JFqWsr3.png[/ig][/QUOTE]Not ad hominem attacks, I'm just using a similar path of thinking to make you see how retarded your argument is using the only data I have on you, which is your location
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[img]https://i.imgur.com/JFqWsr3.png[/ig][/QUOTE]Not ad hominem attacks, I'm just using a similar path of thinking to make you see how retarded your argument is using the only data I have on you, which is your location
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Originally Posted By Better
Are you saying humans should use pattern recognition as a survival trait.you walk home, run into a group of men wearing blue vests - you get beaten and robbed.
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
or
b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
or
b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
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12-20-2018, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Better
This is a valid Bayesian approach for individual action with incomplete information. It is not a valid approach for military action against a collective group of people. You are forgetting the conditions. If you decided military action were to be taken by your government against people with blue vests, a lot of innocent blue vest wearing folks would get fuked. Even some people who would have helped you stop the blue vest gang wear blue vests themselves due to being police or something. Your fallacy is to apply your personal conditional probability to the entire collective for whom the conditions are not satisfied. In this case, those conditions would be specifically wearing blue vests in your neighborhood.you walk home, run into a group of men wearing blue vests - you get beaten and robbed.
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
or
b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
or
b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
The probability of blue vest people being dangerous given they are found in your neighborhood is not the same as the probability of blue vest people being dangerous in general.
This applies very well to the immigrant situation too.
Originally Posted By Appoloin⏩
Well I just chitfuked his entire argument so...Are you saying humans should use pattern recognition as a survival trait.
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