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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Ah yes, changing the goal posts - a classic cop out tactic in argument. Extremely useful against the easily convinced, apathetic and unassertive. However, not so much to people who possess basic critical thinking skills and the ambition to use them.Since men commit far more rapes and significantly more homicides than women, do you also conclude that their gender is one of the main motivators for killing those two girls?
In any case, allow me to explain to you how you yourself don't even understand the various intricacies of the can of worms you just opened here. First of all, you are correct - men are clearly far more likely to commit rapes and homicides than women, as verifiable by countless amounts of data and statistics. Your hope is that by bringing this up, it makes questioning the affects of other demographic points look as absurd as blaming all men for the actions of a few men, simply because they are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes. However, you either fail to grasp, or simply ignore WHY it is that men are more likely to commit violent crimes.
So, why are they, then? Generally, people tend to just chalk it up to women being less prone to physical acts of violence for whatever reasons. But one thing that is seldom considered that needs to be, is opportunity - Most men can easily overpower most women/children, thus their opportunity to commit violent crimes increases exponentially compared to women and children. An average woman can't just approach an average man in the middle of nowhere completely unarmed and hope to successfully assault him without getting seriously injured/killed when the man puts up a defense. On the flip side, the roles between the exact same two people could be reversed, and clearly the man would be far more likely to succeed in assaulting the female by pure brute force alone.
So where am I going with all this exactly? 1. That you're a philosophical lightweight who took the conversation down a road you can't handle if someone actually questions you on it in detail and 2. OPPORTUNITY, as I said, makes things more likely to happen. So if rape/murder laws are more lax in a particular country (someone else already explained that Morocco's law system is not as hard as the U.S.'s on the matters), that creates more opportunities for criminals to get away with the crimes there.
Don't try to make witty comments when you can't back them up. If you want to get philosophical in argument, be prepared to delve deeper than insult tactics to defend your position.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Comparing location to religious ideology is retarded as fuk, but hey keep going..Not ad hominem attacks, I'm just using a similar path of thinking to make you see how retarded your argument is using the only data I have on you, which is your location
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
Not a troll, there just isnt a purpose to your argument. Admitting that gender plays a factor in murder is about as useless as saying oxygen also plays a factor, because since you cant choose a gender at birth, you're stating a problem with zero solution. You're opening your mouth to no merit.If you’re just going to be a retarded troll, we’re done here.
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This breaks my ****ing heart, they said they did this for Hajjin (the last ISIS pocket in Syria)
I hope these scum burn for eternity
May God accept those two girls, can't imagine the pain their family is feeling right now
I hope these scum burn for eternity
May God accept those two girls, can't imagine the pain their family is feeling right now
12-20-2018, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By arabianvenom⏩
ur name makes me wonder if ur muslimThis breaks my ****ing heart, they said they did this for Hajjin (the last ISIS pocket in Syria)
I hope these scum burn for eternity
May God accept those two girls, can't imagine the pain their family is feeling right now
I hope these scum burn for eternity
May God accept those two girls, can't imagine the pain their family is feeling right now
careful brah the mob might lynch you
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
You have just retarded yourself into writing a wall of text to address an fallacious opinion I made up as an example in response to someone else. No, I do not believe gender plays a part at all. Take your own advice and learn to argue properly.Ah yes, changing the goal posts - a classic cop out tactic in argument. Extremely useful against the easily convinced, apathetic and unassertive. However, not so much to people who possess basic critical thinking skills and the ambition to use them.
In any case, allow me to explain to you how you yourself don't even understand the various intricacies of the can of worms you just opened here. First of all, you are correct - men are clearly far more likely to commit rapes and homicides than women, as verifiable by countless amounts of data and statistics. Your hope is that by bringing this up, it makes questioning the affects of other demographic points look as absurd as blaming all men for the actions of a few men, simply because they are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes. However, you either fail to grasp, or simply ignore WHY it is that men are more likely to commit violent crimes.
So, why are they, then? Generally, people tend to just chalk it up to women being less prone to physical acts of violence for whatever reasons. But one thing that is seldom considered that needs to be, is opportunity - Most men can easily overpower most women/children, thus their opportunity to commit violent crimes increases exponentially compared to women and children. An average woman can't just approach an average man in the middle of nowhere completely unarmed and hope to successfully assault him without getting seriously injured/killed when the man puts up a defense. On the flip side, the roles between the exact same two people could be reversed, and clearly the man would be far more likely to succeed in assaulting the female by pure brute force alone.
So where am I going with all this exactly? 1. That you're a philosophical lightweight who took the conversation down a road you can't handle if someone actually questions you on it in detail and 2. OPPORTUNITY, as I said, makes things more likely to happen. So if rape/murder laws are more lax in a particular country (someone else already explained that Morocco's law system is not as hard as the U.S.'s on the matters), that creates more opportunities for criminals to get away with the crimes there.
Don't try to make witty comments when you can't back them up. If you want to get philosophical in argument, be prepared to delve deeper than insult tactics to defend your position.
In any case, allow me to explain to you how you yourself don't even understand the various intricacies of the can of worms you just opened here. First of all, you are correct - men are clearly far more likely to commit rapes and homicides than women, as verifiable by countless amounts of data and statistics. Your hope is that by bringing this up, it makes questioning the affects of other demographic points look as absurd as blaming all men for the actions of a few men, simply because they are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes. However, you either fail to grasp, or simply ignore WHY it is that men are more likely to commit violent crimes.
So, why are they, then? Generally, people tend to just chalk it up to women being less prone to physical acts of violence for whatever reasons. But one thing that is seldom considered that needs to be, is opportunity - Most men can easily overpower most women/children, thus their opportunity to commit violent crimes increases exponentially compared to women and children. An average woman can't just approach an average man in the middle of nowhere completely unarmed and hope to successfully assault him without getting seriously injured/killed when the man puts up a defense. On the flip side, the roles between the exact same two people could be reversed, and clearly the man would be far more likely to succeed in assaulting the female by pure brute force alone.
So where am I going with all this exactly? 1. That you're a philosophical lightweight who took the conversation down a road you can't handle if someone actually questions you on it in detail and 2. OPPORTUNITY, as I said, makes things more likely to happen. So if rape/murder laws are more lax in a particular country (someone else already explained that Morocco's law system is not as hard as the U.S.'s on the matters), that creates more opportunities for criminals to get away with the crimes there.
Don't try to make witty comments when you can't back them up. If you want to get philosophical in argument, be prepared to delve deeper than insult tactics to defend your position.
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12-20-2018, 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Alright, let's say that she had decided she was determined to walk either the longest possible walking distance from one end of Morocco to the other (whatever two points those are), or any possible area within the United States is picked at random to travel the same exact distance on foot. In each case, she would start the journey supplied with a backpack full of enough survival gear and nonperishable food to make it to the end if she's smart about it. Along the way of either country, she is free to ask locals for assistance, but only for supplies and temporary shelter purposes for resting/taking cover in bad weather. Would you prefer the odds of one country over the other in that context, or do you think the odds of danger would be approximately the same?Your hypothetical scenario isn't specific enough to answer. Where in the US is she walking? How is she dressed? Is she armed?
The murder stats I quoted were for the entire countries. They are not predictive models for individual action. I would need more specific data to make that comparison.
The murder stats I quoted were for the entire countries. They are not predictive models for individual action. I would need more specific data to make that comparison.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
If gender doesn't play a role in violent crimes whatsoever, then are you saying that you believe you could walk across your city at any given time of day or night and be equally as likely to be attacked by a woman as a man - and furthermore, that you'd be just as likely to be overpowered by a female assailant as a male one? Because that's literally what you just claimed.You have just retarded yourself into writing a wall of text to address an fallacious opinion I made up as an example in response to someone else. No, I do not believe gender plays a part at all. Take your own advice and learn to argue properly.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
You can’t choose your race either, but denying that certain races are more prone to crime & violence given all the data that exists is wilful ignorance. Data also proves this with a certain religion. With this information, you’re better equipped to avoid dangerous situations, for example going into a chithole country & getting raped & decapitated.Not a troll, there just isnt a purpose to your argument. Admitting that gender plays a factor in murder is about as useless as saying oxygen also plays a factor, because since you cant choose a gender at birth, you're stating a problem with zero solution. You're opening your mouth to no merit.
Serious question, what do you gain by ignoring this?
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I am Muslim. Doesn't change the fact that me and hundreds of millions of other Muslims wish the absolute worst for them in this life and the nextur name makes me wonder if ur muslim
careful brah the mob might lynch you
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
No, I claimed that a person's gender does not play a role in motivating someone to commit murder. Men do not want to kill people anymore than women do.If gender doesn't play a role in violent crimes whatsoever, then are you saying that you believe you could walk across your city at any given time of day or night and be equally as likely to be attacked by a woman as a man - and furthermore, that you'd be just as likely to be overpowered by a female assailant as a male one? Because that's literally what you just claimed.
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Alright, I misunderstood what you were saying. Probably because I missed the context of your discussion with that other guy. My apologies for the error.No, I claimed that a person's gender does not play a role in motivating someone to commit murder. Men do not want to kill people anymore than women do.
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
I dont ignore it, wtf u talking about. A few posts back I even acknowledge that some religions, aka islam, encourage killings of nonbelievers. All I'm saying is nobody knows for sure that the recent killing in Morocco is religiously motivated, everybody claim they know for sure, but nobody really does. The fact that in the video the girl had been stripped down to her panties shows the possibility of rape being the factor. The only thing that points to a religious killing is the beheading, which isnt exclusive to Islamism.You can’t choose your race either, but denying that certain races are more prone to crime & violence given all the data that exists is wilful ignorance. Data also proves this with a certain religion. With this information, you’re better equipped to avoid dangerous situations, for example going into a chithole country & getting raped & decapitated.
Serious question, what do you gain by ignoring this?
Serious question, what do you gain by ignoring this?
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
All good brehAlright, I misunderstood what you were saying. Probably because I missed the context of your discussion with that other guy. My apologies for the error.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Another ad hominem. No I am not Moroccan. I am American. You are fishing for isolated cases to attempt to prove a general trend. You act like the country of Morocco encourages rape or murder. It does not. That law to marry underage victims has existed in common law for hundreds of years btw. Morocco repealed it in 2014, just one year after Denmark repealed theirs. lol
Yes, you read that right. Denmark, a "First world" non chithole country had that same marry your rapist law until 2013. Funny how that works.
Yes, you read that right. Denmark, a "First world" non chithole country had that same marry your rapist law until 2013. Funny how that works.
60% of Moroccan men said "if a woman is raped, she should marry her rapist."
62% of Moroccan men said "a woman should tolerate violence to keep the family together", and 38% agreed "there are times when a woman deserves to be beaten".
https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2...-of-muslim-men62% of Moroccan men said "a woman should tolerate violence to keep the family together", and 38% agreed "there are times when a woman deserves to be beaten".
Yeah. Morocco is just like western countries... Face it. Morocco is a ****hole.
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To anyone who thinks that places like Morocco are safe for Western women, just read a few of the reader comments on here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art....html#comments
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
We can make an educated guess given the fact that they beheaded them & this is a regular theme with Islamists & there’s two verses in the Quaran justifying it.I dont ignore it, wtf u talking about. A few posts back I even acknowledge that some religions, aka islam, encourage killings of nonbelievers. All I'm saying is nobody knows for sure that the recent killing in Morocco is religiously motivated, everybody claim they know for sure, but nobody really does.
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Originally Posted By Better
It depends. Is it the same men? Same location? Personally I'd rather my sister conceal carries and not having to cross the street.you walk home, run into a group of men wearing blue vests - you get beaten and robbed.
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
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b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
your sister is walking home and sees a group of men in blue vests ahead of her - would you want her:
a) to cross the street/find a public spot/find another route. i.e. preconceive that robbery and rape will happen to her if she doesn't
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b) not be prejudiced about people's choice of attire? and walk towards them to show how non-judgmental and progressive you are?
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Originally Posted By fleeceitout⏩
An educated guess is still a guess, especially in the face of evidence that points to the contrary.We can make an educated guess given the fact that they beheaded them & this is a regular theme with Islamists & there’s two verses in the Quaran justifying it.
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Lol @ media purposely down playing it as much as they canhttps://news.sky.com/story/scandinav...rocco-11584316
Women died of "Neck injuries"
This is why women keep doing this chit, the news should be broadcasting the beheading videos but that goes against the MSM agenda
Women died of "Neck injuries"
This is why women keep doing this chit, the news should be broadcasting the beheading videos but that goes against the MSM agenda
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Kind of like the Elin Krantz story
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Originally Posted By RedPolo⏩
Yes there is.There is no evidence that points to the contrary.
1. Stripped down to the panties - possible rape
2. Religious execution is often done in a ceremonious manner, the victim is often forced to kneel and denounce their own faith in favor of Islam. Then the beheading. The girls were killed in an animalistic butchering, no denouncement of any kind, messily as if they wanted it to make it as painful as possible. It's more similar to cartel execution or gang killing than a religious execution.
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"they were nice boys"
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Originally Posted By Azn00Superman⏩
Yes there is.
1. Stripped down to the panties - possible rape
2. Religious execution is often done in a ceremonious manner, the victim is often forced to kneel and denounce their own faith in favor of Islam. Then the beheading. The girls were killed in an animalistic butchering, no denouncement of any kind, messily as if they wanted it to make it as painful as possible. It's more similar to cartel execution or gang killing than a religious execution.
1. Stripped down to the panties - possible rape
2. Religious execution is often done in a ceremonious manner, the victim is often forced to kneel and denounce their own faith in favor of Islam. Then the beheading. The girls were killed in an animalistic butchering, no denouncement of any kind, messily as if they wanted it to make it as painful as possible. It's more similar to cartel execution or gang killing than a religious execution.
Moroccan prosecutors say a suspect arrested in the killing of two Scandinavian tourists allegedly is connected to a terrorist group.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.179501c7e6c9
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
These people are now roaming around Europe in the millions thanks to the 2016 "refugee crisis"."they were nice boys"
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Originally Posted By Appoloin⏩
Indeed. Not exactly sure how they let it get to this point. I hear nationalism is on the rise though so there's still hope.These people are now roaming around Europe in the millions thanks to the 2016 "refugee crisis".
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
We can thank women and their beta orbiter men for this one.Indeed. Not exactly sure how they let it get to this point.I hear nationalism is on the rise though so there's still hope.
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Originally Posted By kel_varnsen⏩
One suspect, out of the three apprehended. It's easier to blame it on a terrorist group than to admit your people butchered tourists, considering the area thrives on tourism.*Misc Zombie Response Team*
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