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Because we've strayed from religious beliefs and more towards nihilism, people think that chasing materials/wealth is the answer but once they get it and realise it was never the answer they lose hope. Only answer to this is to meditate and get in touch with your spiritual side, live in the present moment and not in your thoughts.

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Originally Posted By allnattybro92
People with trully terrible lifes dont commit suicide

Only people who had something top themselves


Im a short ugly white ginger towel head mongerel whos hated by everyone and there phukin dog lmao jus found out i could have chrons disease recently too lol never had gf never had nice clothes never been abroad and now my health is phucked.

I dont know other than a chit life so what’s there for me to be sad about i dont know any better.

You wont see a guy like me who got phucked over everyway possible commit suicide

Because life has been a big bowl of chit since day for me
And i eat this bowl of chit with a big dirty grin on my face l

I want to stay alive andsee how cruel,brutal and phuked up my life can get.

Come the phuk at me life
Cancer ,poverty, genocide

Come the phuk at me!
The bolded part is false.
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there are something people usually really care about that $ cant buy, be it relations, good looks, big dick, or what
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Of course most wildly successful people are not depressed but for sure some get that way at times.

I think there are some who become successful in the first place because they were able to channel certain traits in a productive way such as extreme obsession, over-active mind, compulsions etc. But then there may be periods where these same traits they always had are not channelled in such ways and they nosedive.

In order to make it huge in some areas you have to have a tendency to get seriously obsessed and focussed on things. If you funnel this into one particular thing you either become a world class, rich and famous snooker player or you get in the news for stalking a celebrity lol. Being facetious but you know what I mean.
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Originally Posted By rStyla
Because we've strayed from religious beliefs and more towards nihilism, people think that chasing materials/wealth is the answer but once they get it and realise it was never the answer they lose hope. Only answer to this is to meditate and get in touch with your spiritual side, live in the present moment and not in your thoughts.

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I agree with this 100%. I’ve been meditating daily for a few months now and my anxiety and depression have been drastically reduced. Helps to get out of your own head and all of the torture that it can put you through
post 1570287941 01-04-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE
that sounds ridiculous to me. just sounds like boredom. if i had the money i would do so much to improve my life. constantly non-stop. there is so much i would do with money. there would be no way i'd be unhappy with making a good amount of money, but i think it depends on the job mostly. if the job is **** then yeah ur life is gonna be ****. but if we're talking just like good job, good money. then **** no way i'd be unhappy. i'd take courses and classes and nice vacations. i would have so many projects. i would treat people who don't have money to go eat and ****. i think even like 60k/yr i could live my dream life, if i loved my job. i've been like 20-25k/yr or much less the past 10 years ****. can't do ****
If boredom is a bi-product of the chemical imbalances which also cause depression, then maybe you're right. Can life and some happiness be attainable with more money? Of course it can. Can it cure someone who's already afflicted? I don't think so.

BTW, once you've felt you've "done it all" with all that money you're trying to attain, you're still back to where you started before having the money, only "richer" in the sense of experience and having those memories. I'm not saying you can't get by on those, but again, if you're imbalanced, you're not going to be able to see your way through the anxiety and depression to cherish those experiences and memories very well.

Seems a lot of people are ignoring the whole part about depression being a neuro-chemical disorder.
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Originally Posted By The_Trooper
it's pretty hard to explain but, even though I've had enough money to buy almost anything I've ever wanted from a lambo to a house to all the substances ....

money will never and cannot buy happiness through relationships...

it gets lonely at the top brah (srs) cannot find anyone that actually loves you for you they only want the fame and or finanical status that you have they dont want anything to do withyou

thread has to many feels
Did you kose everything?
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Because no one talks about their short comings.... all they see / post is their achievements.... all they see posted by anyone else is there achievements, and while it’s best not to compare sometimes you can’t help it.
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posting to read later


hope u church up something good for me to read *******s

repped tho op
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Thread reminds me of this song



Truly feel for people that feel that way, whenever I've wanted to blow off my head, it was directly correlated with my life being ****, so improving things made things better, cannot imagine feeling that way if I have everything. Fortunately I'm a very driven person, so I'll always have things to do and thank God I actually have family that I have deep relationships and one legit ride or die friend.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo
This is a perfect example of why JRE is a fuking chit podcast and JR a chit host.

You have these two fuking monkeys talking about a subject they know nothing about rambling about their layman solutions for dealing with suicide/suicidal thoughts. At least Jocko had the decency to say that he's incompetent on the subject.
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Originally Posted By DPeezy13
Ah, the good ol’ existential void, I know it all too well.

The hedonic treadmill is a real thing I guess
So is your solipsism.
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Originally Posted By DPeezy13
Wow that sounds intense...have you tried meditation ?
Yes, it did not work. I tried everything for 2 years, and was on forced part-time work. It literally killed my career as I was seen as unreliable and sick.

I still do meditation for maintenance and now as I'm withdrawing from one unnamed prescription.

It was like someone dropped me into hell at age 30.

Still, I haven't tried to off myself like these celebrities because I see a therapist and psychiatrist, even though I have a lot of material wealth (no usedcarsalesman).
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Originally Posted By _chef_
This is a perfect example of why JRE is a fuking chit podcast and JR a chit host.

You have these two fuking monkeys talking about a subject they know nothing about rambling about their layman solutions for dealing with suicide/suicidal thoughts. At least Jocko had the decency to say that he's incompetent on the subject.
He's never had depression because he's mentally tough, and the fact that Jocko has been through war means he's been through way more chit than the average the person. It's understandable for someone to be depressed if they've been through something traumatizing but people who get depressed over some stupid chit (incels) are just weak and pathetic individuals.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo
He's never had depression because he's mentally tough, and the fact that Jocko has been through war means he's been through way more chit than the average the person. It's understandable for someone to be depressed if they've been through something traumatizing but people who get depressed over some stupid chit (incels) are just weak and pathetic individuals.
It's not all that pathetic tbh. Incels normally have other issues abound like depression, social isolation, and relationships are pretty important to people in general. If one has no friends or relationships, that's a pretty easy road to depression for many people, women included.
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STRONG lack of understand of the topic in this thread. I love you miscer’s but the obtuse nature of some of you folks when it comes to looking at complicated topics as simply black and white is nothing short of astounding.
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My old boss was a multi-millionaire and brought that in annually because it was a small company. Had a mansion and a ranch with property that had wild life he hunted on and grew everything basically his own living/end of the world get away.

He is obese, no kids, no wife, and always seems Sad af. Takes medication daily and whenever he gets depressed he goes to his ranch. Chills.

Some people you think they have it all but they really don't.
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A successful person will rarely reveal themselves as such.

Celebrities are hardly successful as they are minions at the beck and call of power hungry oldies who have complete control of their minions. Must be tough to be a medium for shilling to the masses on behalf of the media tycoons and business elites.

Don't get caught up in all the hype and FOMO being pushed by successful types. Never has any loud mouthed person actually been successful. If they are not discreet, they are most likely shills and are easy to cut and burn when they don't listen well like they should - hence the fall from "grace".
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro
My old boss was a multi-millionaire and brought that in annually because it was a small company. Had a mansion and a ranch with property that had wild life he hunted on and grew everything basically his own living/end of the world get away.

He is obese, no kids, no wife, and always seems Sad af. Takes medication daily and whenever he gets depressed he goes to his ranch. Chills.

Some people you think they have it all but they really don't.
he does have it all. he just doesn't realize it
There is only one Hell: the one we live in now.
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE
he does have it all. he just doesn't realize it
How? Why do you think money solves everything?
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A lot of people become successful in the hopes that it will eradicate their feelings of sadness and lack of belonging, and when even that doesn't do it, they feel it's the end of the line.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By SteadyWayfarer
How? Why do you think money solves everything?
having it doesn't solve everything but you can use it to solve everything. you can use it to improve every aspect of your life. most people do not have that privilege because they are limited by money. there are countless possibilities you can do with money to improve your life and mental well-being. it just sounds like he's consumed by greed.

and i know depression, i watched my mom who was my only parent lose her life to cancer when I was 10 and have felt suicidal since that time. have cut my wrists, dropped out of highschool due to bullying, and been through alcohol and drug abuse long term. so i understand what it's like to be lost in your mindset. i also know that perspective can be totally changed. i've seen it happen to me. i honestly did not care what happened to me and my life until last year when i traveled around asia and it finally made me want to live and desire to pursue an education at 26. i don't have good money though, so it will be a very slow change for me, and am struggling with finances, but if i did have money i would change everything about my life and my family's life.

i think there are two things that would help someone with money brighten up their lives and that's giving and creating. worth a shot anyways. i try to create music and paint models but can't really finance the tools. also want to get into watch making, and jewelry making, but those cost a lot of money too. i have nothing, no education, i work warehousing, no friends for more than a decade, no gf crew, but being creative adds flavour and spice to my life.

traveling is good too, i didn't realize it until recently. even just standing there in a different culture watching how people live in a different world opens up the mind. gotta be traveling to the right places though. western society is so toxic.
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Originally Posted By RedPolo
He's never had depression because he's mentally tough, and the fact that Jocko has been through war means he's been through way more chit than the average the person. It's understandable for someone to be depressed if they've been through something traumatizing but people who get depressed over some stupid chit (incels) are just weak and pathetic individuals.
Would you say it's only weak willed people who have problems with their organs? Heart, lungs, liver, etc?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro
My old boss was a multi-millionaire and brought that in annually because it was a small company. Had a mansion and a ranch with property that had wild life he hunted on and grew everything basically his own living/end of the world get away.

He is obese, no kids, no wife, and always seems Sad af. Takes medication daily and whenever he gets depressed he goes to his ranch. Chills.

Some people you think they have it all but they really don't.
Can confirm being out on a ranch really does wonders for a persons mindset. Idk if it’s the fresh air or what. When I come crashing down off the mania I have a hard time forcing myself to do things even if I know they’ll help me feel better, such as taking a ride through the pastures.
Originally Posted By seanb1979
Would you say it's only weak willed people who have problems with their organs? Heart, lungs, liver, etc?
You’re taking what he said out of context.
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Originally Posted By SmillironS
You’re taking what he said out of context.
Not really. He's using the argument of mental illness being a weakness that can simply be overcome by being stronger. Some brains are severely broken.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro
My old boss was a multi-millionaire and brought that in annually because it was a small company. Had a mansion and a ranch with property that had wild life he hunted on and grew everything basically his own living/end of the world get away.

He is obese, no kids, no wife, and always seems Sad af. Takes medication daily and whenever he gets depressed he goes to his ranch. Chills.

Some people you think they have it all but they really don't.
Well yea that’s not surprising, sounds like he’s lacking quality relationships/intimacy

My question was how can people that are successful and also have a family (loving spouse, kids, etc) end up severely depressed.

It’s not surprising at all that someone with no spouse or kids gets depressed, because money only goes so far when you’re lonely and feel like you have no purpose
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Don't know, I have never felt depressed or suicidal. I would never kill myself.
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They feel empty, that their life has no meaning, or maybe they're in so much pain they feel like they have no choice but to end it.
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Originally Posted By 2RDEYE
he does have it all. he just doesn't realize it
He has money, but poor health and no family. He has nothing.
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