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Thread: How much better would Western Society be without Rap Music????

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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
How has no one mentioned that violent crime as a whole in the US has been going down? Of course you will believe the world is degenerate if you look for evidence to support your cognitive bias.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
How has no one mentioned that violent crime as a whole in the US has been going down? Of course you will believe the world is degenerate if you look for evidence to support your cognitive bias.
Going down compared to when though? 2005? Lol
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
I don't necessarily think rap is the entire problem. Allowing kids to be immersed in violence (video games, music, movies, TV shows, etc.) definitely desensitizes and hardens them.And if they don't have someone teaching them morals/ethics/ how to act in civilized society.They don't really stand a chance.
IME, a lot of kids who are obsessed with Rap don't. They don't have a close emotional relationship with their parents or a mentor.

IMO guidance is a human need, people meet that need in the abstract (eg. ideals, religion, philosophy, etc) and/or in persons (mentors, role models, parents).

Gabor Mate speaks about one of the tragedies of modern life, being that kids turn to their peers and media for guidance, rather than members of their community - because our society and economic system promotes physical social disconnection.

Kids turn to social media, and music, for guidance on how to speak, dress, behave, etc.

Imagine a kid growing up in a social environment that mirrors the things spoken about in gangsta rap - then that means that gangster rap is reinforcing the values and norms of that social environment.

I think that TV and movies are less of an influence when it comes to violence, because actors will openly say or show that they are not the characters they portray. Gangsta rappers never admit to be 'actors', and saying things just to make money - so they intentionally blur reality and fantasy, whereas TV and Movie actors don't.

Porn is probably closer to Gangsta rap, than mainstream TV and film. Pornstars always pretend they they love what they are doing, and it's never 'just a job' - in the same way that gangsta rappers always pretend to be a gang member, serial killer and drug dealer.
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Originally Posted By bobthebuilder7⏩
I honestly think rap music causes behavioral issues within the urban communities
I love Hip Hop. I consider myself to be a Hip Hop head and I've immersed myself in this culture most of my life. That being said, I've struggled with a moral dilemma for the past decade because I agree with this statement.

Hip Hop is more than just rap music, but the mainstream rappers that have dominated the charts and broke through into influencing pop culture have been mostly garbage individuals. The popular rap artists promote a lifestyle that, first of all most of them don't even live, but more importantly is entirely toxic and will destroy lives. The constant glorification of things we cannot discuss on misc are degrading mostly young males into addicts, recidivists and uninspired lost souls who lack the skills to contribute to society.

It wasn't always this way. Hip Hop was initially a movement meant to empower impoverished communities. Hip Hop was comprised of intelligent, creative, socially conscious young men who strived to express themselves in a new way and provide a voice to their voiceless communities. From its inception until the 90s, it was actually a positive influence on society. Then the gangs came in. Then the record executives came in. Then social media put the nail in the coffin. Now our impressionable young generation is subjected to something evil that destroys society.

I will listen to rap music until the day I die and believe in the goodness of the culture, but unfortunately it's been driven underground.
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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
Imagine if all the music was just one group of people talking about mayonnaise sandwiches, unseasoned chicken, flat booty women, and pick-up trucks bruh...
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post 1571600721 01-19-2019, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By jreacher⏩
They need to bring back more old school rap.



DMC ranted about the state of Rap in this video...



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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
The majority of people can listen to rap and just enjoy the beat with catchy lyrics or whatever. The 'problem' is kids from the streets that literally have nothing. They grow up listening to rap with lyrics that glorify selling drugs, pimping b!tches, getting money. Etc. Music that talks about violence/killing people over street beefs/disrespect, Etc. And they completely take it to heart. They grow up with nothing and no positive role model. They hear guys that claim they came from nothing from the streets rap about how they 'made it'. Etc. Eventually the role model is the guy that has fame/fortune/respect/women. And they are willing to do anything to follow in that path.
I am a big fan and agree with this. At the same time music is something creative and expressive. Rap music was a result of multiple factors, including their ancestry in music (blues, motown, funk, etc.) and living conditions.

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FYI I am also a hip hop fan as well as heavy metal. So I guess I am a low life criminal, incel, autist.
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I hate chicks that listen to rap music. MASSIVE correlation with slootiness.
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Originally Posted By Tamorlane⏩
I am a big fan and agree with this. At the same time music is something creative and expressive. Rap music was a result of multiple factors, including their ancestry in music (blues, motown, funk, etc.) and living conditions.

Direct reflection of culture/living conditions. Unfortunately the breed of the original rappers died off. A lot of the more mainstream rap that's played on the radio isn't even the issue. I'm old enough to remember when Boosie was one of the rising stars. He was extremely popular among those with a lower socioeconomic status. He kind of got wrapped up in the legal system and got his wings clipped before social media era though.


But compare this type of music/music video to the original rappers and even the more mainstream rappers today... The videos below are the type of rappers that are influencing the younger crowd from the projects/ghetto. At least in my area. The wanna be rappers are basically a mirror of this. With the exception that starting around 14-16 they are getting violent as hell. They are carrying guns/shooting at each other/doing drive by's for the lulz and for street cred. No sense of consequence. There are little groups of wanna be rappers filming videos like these in my city/nearby cities. They steal/commit burglaries to get the guns.



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It doesn’t cause anything. It may enable and encourage low iq people to act accordingly but the same could be said for metal and emo rock.

Basically low iq *******s make chit music for other low iq *******s to celebrate. But it’s never a whole genre.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
90s hip-hop is the some of the greatest **** i've ever heard man, however... i see how it could negatively affect some communities if they take the lyrics to heart
Or positively if they heard the message and acted accordingly. This is just as relevant 20 years later. Spot on take that is just as true today.


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much better.

we need music with rhythm though.
Luckily we have electronic music for that
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Cause? No

Show what problems exist? Yes
Maybe there was a time when this was true, but not now. Life imitates art. Little kids see dumb sht in rap and emulate it. A lot of these people base their entire lives around rap music and trying to be like their favorite rappers. You know that to be true, as well as I do. Anyone who says otherwise is turning a blind eye to the facts.
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Skimmed through the thread, as a few others have stated I find Rap and Hip Hop to be motivating and uplifting, more so the old school variety than what it has currently devolved into with the exception of a few acts.

My running and lifting playlists are compiled mostly of 2Pac, Eminem, Nas, Notorious B.I.G, Kendrick Lamar, etc and many of my PR's in fitness can be in part credited to the adrenaline surge that accompanies listening to this and other genres of music.

Many rappers do seem to promote the degenerate lifestyle though and people that are easily impressionable and attempt to imitate their actions can quickly find themselves on the wrong path.

Also, using 2Pac as an example, the mainstream media usually portrayed him as a dangerous thug or gangsta spewing hatred and violence but anyone that has really listened to his music knows he has lots of songs that highlight struggles and overcoming them, injustice, inequality and have very positive messages. The song changes posted in this thread is a prime example of this.

The media portrays certain people and groups so as to emphasize the negatives and downplay the positives in an effort to bolster their agendas.
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would definitely affect aggressiveness in people. rap no doubt makes people more aggressive. since a lot of it as about gangsters and violence and crime and ****.
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I consider the negative crap spewed in 95% of rap music ever made to be more of a product of chit cultural values than the other way around.

But beyond that, what I can say for sure is, if rap had never existed, we'd have a whole hell of a lot less chitty music on our hands. The vast, vast majority (like 97%) of rap ever made makes garbage tier music acts like Fall Out Boy look talented. I will admit that there are a very select few rappers who were/are genuinely impressive and talented, but the garbage acts far outweigh the quality ones.
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
Can't think of any positives that have come from it.
Way better. And you have become one of my favorite posters on the misc lately. Sorry about the differences we had earlier
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Originally Posted By lornemalvo⏩
I hate chicks that listen to rap music. MASSIVE correlation with slootiness.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
grunge music was basically the start of the emo culture which arguably evolved in to modern day sjws and cucks
You are contradicting yourself

You claim this type of music evolved people into sjw and cucks but you have a double standard with rap music claiming it doesn’t influence the people that listen to it ??


Sooo which one is it ? Does music affect people or not ?
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Originally Posted By Mobraelite⏩
You are contradicting yourself

You claim this type of music evolved people into sjw and cucks but you have a double standard with rap music claiming it doesn’t influence the people that listen to it ??


Sooo which one is it ? Does music affect people or not ?
Not contradicting myself at alll. Like I said, If parents allow their children to listen to music with parental advisory labels on it, it will fucck them up. hat's not because the music is bad, music is an expression of free speech. The situation occurs because the parenting is bad. This reaction to rap is the classic ''ban vans'' reaction btw and its hilarious.
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I feel like people who listen to rap develop better social skills.
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If rap was like this would it make u feel better op?

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don't mind of a bit of 80-90's (hell even early 2000's) hip hop, its probably 20% of all music I listen to.

That being said, urban communities degenmaxx with hip hop. We would probably be better off.
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Likely not at all.
Originally Posted By DirtyDon123⏩
lmao cope on a rope
You mean actual facts? Gang membership and violence in general has been on an overall decline in the US.
Originally Posted By sword_⏩
I love hip-hop BTW. I think there are positive and negative aspects to it, but that's with any art.

The fact is that gangsta rap was brought to the forefront of the music industry in the early 90s.
Mostly because kids in nice suburban neighborhoods were eating that chit up like candy. Hell, I was one of them.
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The trash of society needs a past time otherwise they will wreak havoc. That should be Rap musics goal. They will sing about popping bitches, hustling drugs etc instead of actually doing it.

However all this chit are pushed to the society as mainstream music which is overly harmful.
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
Not contradicting myself at alll. Like I said, If parents allow their children to listen to music with parental advisory labels on it, it will fucck them up. hat's not because the music is bad, music is an expression of free speech. The situation occurs because the parenting is bad. This reaction to rap is the classic ''ban vans'' reaction btw and its hilarious.
There's no 'allow' anymore.

If a child has access to the internet, in any capacity, they have access to adult oriented musisc.

Also, rap is part of Top 40 radio. Even the rap played on Top 40 radio has messages and images that are IMO toxic for kids.

This was a Top 40 rap song, this is the edited version that kids could hear and watch....



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Originally Posted By sword_⏩
How has no one mentioned that violent crime as a whole in the US has been going down? Of course you will believe the world is degenerate if you look for evidence to support your cognitive bias.
It actually hasn't if you go back far enough



Also it's a non point as medical treatment has advanced so much that stabbings and shootings that would be sure deaths 50+ years ago are now easily treatable.
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