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post 1572163081 01-26-2019, 12:45 PM
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Parents are 100% responsible for how their kids turn out

post 1572163321 01-26-2019, 12:49 PM
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when a dog is bad, as a society we generally blame the owner.....



let that sink in
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post 1572163331 01-26-2019, 12:49 PM
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about 3(50) percent imo

kids are in school and around their friends for the majority of their day during their development years.
post 1572163391 01-26-2019, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By ashin1
when a dog is bad, as a society we generally blame the owner.....



let that sink in
post 1572163641 01-26-2019, 12:55 PM
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Pretty much yeah. Uninvolved parenting and lack of discipline pretty much gives rise to autists
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post 1572163681 01-26-2019, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz
Pretty much yeah. Uninvolved parenting and lack of discipline pretty much gives rise to autists
post 1572163981 01-26-2019, 01:00 PM
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Child under the best possible parental care gets molested by a seemingly trustworthy relative or teacher. Child is scarred for life and posts chit that gets them red and banned on Misc. Blame the parents if you want.
post 1572164001 01-26-2019, 01:01 PM
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not 100%.

i know parents who are good parents. and some of their kids turned out great with minimal effort, emotionally stable, successful, well-behaved...with minimal effort. and their other kids were good too but not great like their siblings. why? cus nature does play a part, it's not only nurture.

some people are naturally good. they forgive easily, they're open-minded, not selfish. the average person has to make an effort to develop these qualities.

alos, media, internet, peer pressure play a large role in shaping a kid's attitude. you can try to instill simplicity and gratitude in your kids, but if they're watching chitloads of television and their friends are spoilt, they're prolly gonna be lil brats too.
post 1572164011 01-26-2019, 01:01 PM
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It SHOULD, however our society these days forces both parents to work -- and in some cases work long hours -- instead of staying home and focusing on their child's upbringing. Some kids spend more awake hours in daycare or with a babysitter than with their own mothers.
post 1572164061 01-26-2019, 01:01 PM
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You're one of the few posters I've seen who who aren't retarded but gonna have to disagree with you here. My dad is a chem prof and raised me to be the same way. I chase thots and occasionally get into scuffles that get the cops called. Explain that.
post 1572164091 01-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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Not 100%
Too many outside factors at play
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post 1572164111 01-26-2019, 01:02 PM
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100% correct.
post 1572164161 01-26-2019, 01:03 PM
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You're right on point, Don. Towards the end of high school, I recall looking around at my peers. Some I had known since preschool. It's amazing how much better the kids with good families turn out. Honestly, I think if folks understood the value of having a stable, intact family,they might actually put in the effort to pull their **** together before popping out babies. The biggest privilege in life is being raised by two committed, motivated and stable parents. It's the best gift you could ever give your child.
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post 1572164271 01-26-2019, 01:04 PM
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the school environment plays a big role in it too.

Teachers these days need to be better disciplinarians. The “safe” spaces schools are becoming is definitely not good for anybody.
post 1572164351 01-26-2019, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By radrd
Child under the best possible parental care gets molested by a seemingly trustworthy relative or teacher. Child is scarred for life and posts chit that gets them red and banned on Misc. Blame the parents if you want.
Lmao strong

but no parent would leave their child alone with a relative they were not 100% sure about or teacher, that's not "best parental care"...that's raising a child in a psycho extended family and having their child go to a low tier, trash school that doesn't do background checks and leaves teachers unattended 1 on 1 with pupils, also not instilling in children not to be alone with strange adults.
post 1572164371 01-26-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By djback
You're one of the few posters I've seen who who aren't retarded but gonna have to disagree with you here. My dad is a chem prof and raised me to be the same way. I chase thots and occasionally get into scuffles that get the cops called. Explain that.
So, if you know you participate in degenerate behavior, why not stop?
post 1572164391 01-26-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
the school environment plays a big role in it too.

Teachers these days need to be better disciplinarians. The “safe” spaces schools are becoming is definitely not good for anybody.
It's not on the teachers, partner. It's all on the parents. Kids don't act out at school if there's consequences at home.
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post 1572164421 01-26-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By exxtracool
the school environment plays a big role in it too.

Teachers these days need to be better disciplinarians. The “safe” spaces schools are becoming is definitely not good for anybody.
lot of teachers are just big kids themselves. had plenty of teachers in high school who were more petty than the students when someone offended them. you see this a lot in college as well if you accidentally call someone with a dr. a professor.
post 1572164501 01-26-2019, 01:07 PM
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post 1572164521 01-26-2019, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By underground21
lot of teachers are just big kids themselves. had plenty of teachers in high school who were more petty than the students when someone offended them. you see this a lot in college as well if you accidentally call someone with a dr. a professor.
Most teachers are people who couldn't find a good career with their degree... picking a school for your child to go to should be a top priority imo
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I'd say 80% should fall on the parents 20% on the kid.

Unfortunately parents choose bad decisions, like focusing on career and making money for the kids instead of spending time with the kids. This results in the peers raising the kids, schools/teachers, coaches, relatives, day care. Either way, the exposure to those elements is the parents responsibility.

But there's plenty of kids that have had it all and still manage to fuk it up, because they want to. Some kids just want to watch the world burn.
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post 1572164561 01-26-2019, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
What about sociopaths? Maybe that is by nature?
Sociopaths are created ala bowlbys attachment theory and trauma at an early age, parents are always to blame unless there is a brain injury.
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I was a skinny FA kunt nerd thanks to my parents. After finding zyzz and misc I became an aesthetic kunt. So no
post 1572164751 01-26-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Garil25
I was a skinny FA kunt nerd thanks to my parents. After finding zyzz and misc I became an aesthetic kunt. So no
If you base your morality and principles on finding zyzz and misc...

son...



Looks like your parents got the last laugh

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I wouldn't agree with that claim. My parents are exceptional people but I don't think I should represent their efforts. My flaws shouldn't have anything to do with them
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Originally Posted By Maestro
So, if you know you participate in degenerate behavior, why not stop?
Because I'm an alpha male.
post 1572164871 01-26-2019, 01:14 PM
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It takes a village to raise a child
Parents are a huge factor - but we have free will. Drugs, peer groups, media, are external and can ruin a kid despite parents best intentions. Even medical 'best practices' can warp kids. Sometimes children have mental defects and our technologies and medicines can't afford a normal opportunity.

The game can be rigged too.

What about kids with no parents under state ward status? Abused early on in life by caretakers? Disadvantaged significantly through lack of psychological, economic, and medical support? Are you saying the lack of existence is 100% on the biological mother/father? Seems like a stretch.
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Originally Posted By RihanM
I wouldn't agree with that claim. My parents are exceptional peoplebut I don't think I should represent their efforts.My flaws shouldn't have anything to do with them
That's a noble statement and reflective of the high quality of parenting they gave you, you love and respect them so much you feel uncomfortable representing them and recognize you have flaws...a sociopath couldn't do that and this statement also shows you have maturity and humility.

Congrats brah your parents raised you right.
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Originally Posted By tk217
Parents are a huge factor - but we have free will. Drugs, peer groups, media, are external and can ruin a kid despite parents best intentions. Even medical 'best practices' can warp kids. Sometimes children have mental defects and our technologies and medicines can't afford a normal opportunity.

The game can be rigged too.

What about kids with no parents under state ward status? Abused early on in life by caretakers? Disadvantaged significantly through lack of psychological, economic, and medical support? Are you saying the lack of existence is 100% on the biological mother/father? Seems like a stretch.
Yes the parents not being around is responsible for that. So yes down to the parents or lack of.

If you want to argue semantics then the guardians/caretakers/parents/legal guardians/custodians of the children are responsible(but I can't fit that in the title)
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Originally Posted By DirtyDon123
Lmao strong

but no parent would leave their child alone with a relative they were not 100% sure about or teacher, that's not "best parental care"...that's raising a child in a psycho extended family and having their child go to a low tier, trash school that doesn't do background checks and leaves teachers unattended 1 on 1 with pupils, also not instilling in children not to be alone with strange adults.
It seems like parents of abused kids turn a blind eye/stick their head in the sand more often than not. My first instinct as a parent is to trust no one, and question any behavior out of the ordinary.

My wife was watching a show on netflix where this dude was molesting his neighbors 12 year old daughter, said he was going to take her horseback riding and then kidnapped her for a few days. The signs were always there, the parents just ignored it.

The molestor also had affairs with the childs mother and father srs lmao.
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