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Thread: Top Harvard scientist claims space rock Oumuamua is most likely of alien origin.

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I don't know about all that "It's happening" stuff. Seems like that gif gets thrown around way too much and nothing ever happens.
Would be neat to meet some aliens before I die though, if not meet them to at least 100% know they exist without any doubt. I mean, yeah it's for sure possible and some questionable things have happened but there's still room for plenty of skepticism.. weird coincidences happen, hoaxes, 2019 technology/video/pic editing so you just never know...
For a long time I thought for sure the famous lights over phoenix in 1997 was a real UFO. It looked absolutely massive, 1997 so less chance of editing and 100's of people actually witnessed it and called authorities.. Now just recently I find out that there's an explanation for that (a pilot dropping flares) and it disappointed me and ruined my interest in following anything alien related again.

sorry scientists, its probably just a flat rock going through space, why it's accelerating more.. who fukin knows.. guess it must be aliens right, not going to disappoint me again.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
Yes it is difficult to land a prove on an asteroid however i believe currently we're already trying to send a probe to an asteroid to collect samples from it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...their-targets/

So i imagine if we can do that, then we should have an easier time simply getting near it and blow it up with a big range explosion.
so we're gonna equip the probe with a missile!?

why would we wanna blow it up!??
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
'I'm not that bright'

No chit
At least I can admit it.


Believing in space aliens has to be about the dumbest thing ever. Even if they did exist and they could travel here, it wouldn't be in a rock. Because, it's a fcuking rock.
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post 1573023691 02-06-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
At least I can admit it.


Believing in space aliens has to be about the dumbest thing ever. Even if they did exist and they could travel here, it wouldn't be in a rock. Because, it's a fcuking rock.
do you have any idea how many galaxies exist in our universe? and how many stars are in those galaxies? and how many planets and moons orbit around those stars? the chances of zero life outside our 1 planet are mathematically impossible, even if the chance of life is unbelievably tiny.

literally only brainwashed religious people think no other life exists out there.
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
do you have any idea how many galaxies exist in our universe? and how many stars are in those galaxies? and how many planets and moons orbit around those stars? the chances of zero life outside our 1 planet are mathematically impossible, even if the chance of life is unbelievably tiny.

literally only brainwashed religious people think no other life exists out there.
Educate yourself on the Fermi Paradox and the speed of light.


We're alone and we'll never find anything else out there except bacteria.
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
Educate yourself on the Fermi Paradox and the speed of light.


We're alone and we'll never find anything else out there except bacteria.
i know all about the fermi paradox. the problem is it isnt really a paradox - its just stupid. why havent we been visited before? maybe we have! maybe they chose not to! the whole "paradox" rests on a gigantic assumption and weak premise. is ASSUMES we've never been visited, and it ASSUMES that aliens are even aware of our existence, and it ASSUMES that if they were aware, that they'd voluntarily visit, and it ASSUMES that if they visited, the public would know about it LULZ.

im also familiar with the speed of light - but did you know space itself can bend and move without a speed limit?

ever heard of the drake equation?

also, bacteria is technically alien life, and whatever we find doesnt = whatever exists
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
"He mentions that four TV crews were in this office on the day in the fall when his spaceship theory went viral, and now five film companies are interested in making a movie about his life."

He's smarter than you think. It's not an alien ship. Sry bros.
This. I followed this closely when it happened, dude is talking out of his ass. Most likely fishing for attention. Move along folks.
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
Educate yourself on the Fermi Paradox and the speed of light.


We're alone and we'll never find anything else out there except bacteria.
This. Being completely alone in this vast and never ending universe frightens people so they cope by saying "we cant be the only beings in the universe".
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
At least I can admit it.


Believing in space aliens has to be about the dumbest thing ever. Even if they did exist and they could travel here, it wouldn't be in a rock. Because, it's a fcuking rock.
1) Not believing in space aliens is borderline mentally ill.

2) Nobody knows what it is, that's the point. But a top scientist - the type of person who would like to rationalize things - is admitting it's showing artificial behaviour, and nobody can prove him wrong. Which is a breath of fresh air from the usual science evangelists

3)That picture you see of it? You do know that's a computer generated image right?

Please tell me you didn't think that was an actual photo..
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
do you have any idea how many galaxies exist in our universe? and how many stars are in those galaxies? and how many planets and moons orbit around those stars? the chances of zero life outside our 1 planet are mathematically impossible, even if the chance of life is unbelievably tiny.

literally only brainwashed religious people think no other life exists out there.
Do you have any idea how much dead space there is between these galaxies my dude?

This is just the solar system, to give you an idea. In this map, the moon is only a pixel large. Try to scroll through the whole thing I dare you.

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/...larsystem.html

Of course there's alien life. None of them are anywhere close to earth though, and never will be.
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Originally Posted By phikappa⏩
Educate yourself on the Fermi Paradox and the speed of light.


We're alone and we'll never find anything else out there except bacteria.


Do you even drake equation brah?
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
But who was occam's razor tho.
but do you know how many assumptions you're making when you say "we exist, therefore it's likely that other advanced life forms exist"?


life, and of course advanced life moreso, is so ridiculously unlikely that if you gave the numbers to whichever mathematician you choose they'd tell you it's impossible.

to assume the existence of life on earth as "1" in an equation of probability is crazy.


it's like saying "the winning numbers of last night's lottery were 10 17 18 43 65 13 14 32 55 6 61 4 16 51 22 15, therefore if i play these numbers in every lottery from now on i'll win" (increased amount of numbers for more reasonable example), except much less likely.

just because something has happened once, it doesn't mean you can use that single data set to reliably predict future outcomes.
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro⏩
How far away is it? Can't we just launch a missile at it to find out what's inside?
Ifthat scientists hypothesis is actually true, it is much to thin for it to be anything inside. It is also much to fast and passed our planet a year ago.

The thing traveled with lots of speed on an unknown route through our solar system. Scientists barely sensed it and pictures online are just possible reconstruction of what it could be. Even it's real shape is pretty much up to debate. Scientists are asking themselves why it moved so fast and why they didn't find any asteroid tail. Some solutions are:

-Harvard brah in the OP says it could be propelled by the sun/a sun sail. For this to possible it has be 2milimeters thin, which makes it likely it has been built by Aliens. This does not mean Aliens are coming to visit us though. It would just mean some of their trash thrown into space by them 100s of years ago drifted by by.
-Other scientists say the measurements could have been inaccurrate due to it's speed and it might be a normal asteroid, whose tail we just failed to sense.
-Many scientists told newspapers it is some huge chunk of rock/metal that just moves in ways we cannot explain with current models/have not witnessed before.
-People all over the world believe it to be giant UFO, but considering scientists believe it comes from 100s of lightyears, it hasn't left our solar system yet and is slowing down, it doesn't seem to make any sense. Who travels for thousands of years without much of a goal? Space Gypsies?

Each of these is a totally
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Originally Posted By Coal
Do you have any idea how much dead space there is between these galaxies my dude?

This is just the solar system, to give you an idea. In this map, the moon is only a pixel large. Try to scroll through the whole thing I dare you.

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/...larsystem.html

Of course there's alien life. None of them are anywhere close to earth though, and never will be.
The problem is, you're looking at it based on current human limitations. You're assuming that even if we achieve the speed of light, it will take millions of years just to get to another solar system in our galaxy.

But who was wormholes? Who was manipulating space/time/gravity? Just LOL if you think a civilization even a thousand years ahead of us would use vector thrust engines.

As for the Fermi paradox, that is easy to dismiss. Somewhere there is a mound of termites that has never seen a human. Therefore there are no such things as humans?

Such cope.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Do you have any idea how much dead space there is between these galaxies my dude?

This is just the solar system, to give you an idea. In this map, the moon is only a pixel large. Try to scroll through the whole thing I dare you.

http://joshworth.com/dev/pixelspace/...larsystem.html

Of course there's alien life. None of them are anywhere close to earth though, and never will be.
im very aware. The only place we'll be able to visit and colonize is our immediate solar system. anything beyond that and we'll need some serious warp-drive space-bending tech.
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hopefully aliens dont exist. More life = more suffering. There's already too much suffering on this planet alone.
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Originally Posted By DesiredUser****⏩
Religion came about because most people can't fathom the idea that they aren't special and this is all there is. Makes them feel nice and fuzzy inside.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DesiredUser**** again.

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Originally Posted By soaponarope1⏩
Depends what you mean by good.

High quality, no. Entertaining, sure.
Huh? It's a Tim Burton movie from back in the days when all of his movies were critical hits. The special effects were cool and it was generally well-regarded as high quality.

It's a spoof of the old UFO movies from the 50's. Lots of cameos in the film too. I have no idea how it can only be a 6.3 on imdb. Probably a bunch of slack-jawed *******s downvoted it for some SJW reason we don't know about. Film is easily a 7+/10 film by imdb's normal standards.

EDIT - I just checked. It looks like an army of autists rated the movie at 1/10. They might be 'bots.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
But who was wormholes? Who was manipulating space/time/gravity? Just LOL if you think a civilization even a thousand years ahead of us would use vector thrust engines.
Wormholes don't exist in real life. It is a purely theoretical concept and there's zero evidence to even begin "guessing" that these things exist, much less used by aliens.

You're taking a stretch beyond a stretch here brah, all because you really would like it to be true so you're using whatever it takes to justify it in your head. I know how it feels. I grew up on Sci fi but I've been able to keep an unbiased expectation and not let my curiosity get the better of me.
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Originally Posted By Brozart⏩
but do you know how many assumptions you're making when you say "we exist, therefore it's likely that other advanced life forms exist"?


life, and of course advanced life moreso, is so ridiculously unlikely that if you gave the numbers to whichever mathematician you choose they'd tell you it's impossible.

to assume the existence of life on earth as "1" in an equation of probability is crazy.


it's like saying "the winning numbers of last night's lottery were 10 17 18 43 65 13 14 32 55 6 61 4 16 51 22 15, therefore if i play these numbers in every lottery from now on i'll win", except much less likely.

just because something has happened once, it doesn't mean you can use that single data set to reliably predict future outcomes.
2 things wrong with this:

1) If you think that we are the only life in the universe, I would argue that the chances of that are WAY more far fetched than assuming we are just another rock with life. Not that I don't believe in God, I just don't necessarily believe that we are his only creation. I'd like to be proven wrong, but for the time being I'm leaning towards we're not as special as we think we are.

2) The likelihood of life in this universe is overwhelmingly likely, not the other way around. Scientists only state that it's highly unlikely that theuniverse itselfhas the laws of physics required to support the spontaneous occurrence of life. Proof of God? Maybe. Doesn't mean aliens are not part of his menagerie though. Scientists like to cope with this fact by inventing 'multiverse theory'.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Wormholes don't exist in real life. It is a purely theoretical concept and there's zero evidence to even begin "guessing" that these things exist, much less used by aliens.

You're taking a stretch beyond a stretch here brah, all because you really would like it to be true so you're using whatever it takes to justify it in your head. I know how it feels. I grew up on Sci fi but I've been able to keep an unbiased expectation and not let my curiosity get the better of me.
What proof can you possibly show me that wormholes don't exist? That was just one example. Just try to imagine a civilization that is aMILLIONyears more advanced than ours. It's highly likely we can't even conceive what technology they have developed. Our brains are simply not equipped to envision it. It would be even more mind blowing than asking a caveman to imagine an iphone or TV.

You have a very narrow band of thinking brother. You need to open your mind.
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
im very aware. The only place we'll be able to visit and colonize is our immediate solar system. anything beyond that and we'll need some serious warp-drive space-bending tech.
if we survive to the point where our tech is at the level it needs to be, here's how it could be done.

1) send out self-replicating autonomous robots to colonize a candidate planet. when they're done creating shelters and crops and everything necessary to support human life.
2) send a cargo of frozen human embryos to be incubated and raised by the robots as the first generation of colonists.
3) give them a data dump of all human knowledge from Earth and they are on they're own to build their colony.

You could colonize planets very far away in this way, because you need not transport living beings requiring life support.
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Originally Posted By sandaltan⏩
i know all about the fermi paradox. the problem is it isnt really a paradox - its just stupid. why havent we been visited before? maybe we have! maybe they chose not to! the whole "paradox" rests on a gigantic assumption and weak premise. is ASSUMES we've never been visited, and it ASSUMES that aliens are even aware of our existence, and it ASSUMES that if they were aware, that they'd voluntarily visit, and it ASSUMES that if they visited, the public would know about it LULZ.

im also familiar with the speed of light - but did you know space itself can bend and move without a speed limit?

ever heard of the drake equation?

also, bacteria is technically alien life, and whatever we find doesnt = whatever exists
God damn youre dumb as ****. The fermi paradox has nothing to do with if we have been visited or not. Its simply stating we see NO proof of alien life in the observable universe so far. And given the age of the universe and the gap of development between civilizations we should see alien civilizations that are super old and new. Or at least trace evidence they have ever existed. We have seen 0 evidence so far.

Many reasons why that might be, but it certainly appears as though intelligent life like ourselves is extremely rare.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
What proof can you possibly show me that wormholes don't exist? That was just one example. Just try to imagine a civilization that is aMILLIONyears more advanced than ours. It's highly likely we can't even conceive what technology they have developed. It would be even more mind blowing than asking a caveman to imagine an iphone or TV.

You have a very narrow band of thinking brother. You need to open your mind.
You made the claim that wormholes exist so the burden of proof is on you. It's not up to me to prove that it doesn't. You can't catch me in these kiddy games brah, it's me. I'll give you proof wormholes don't exist when you give me proof the giant space unicorn with 10 legs that can phase in and out of dimensions doesn't exist. Lol.
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
LMFAO!!

How fukking dense are you?

You do realize that human history is being suppressed by mainstream science right? I mean, any mouth breathing spastic can work that out.

"Duhhhhh...the Egyptians built the pyramids with chicken bones bro..uhhh.. says so right here in this book bro....duhhhhh.. the African Dogon tribe just guessed there was Sirius B........uhhh... the ancient Aztecs just accidentally acquired advanced astronomical knowledge bro, but they thought lightening was God bro.....uuuhhhh.. It says so in this book brooooooo"

You fukkin' brain damaged, smegma curd guzzling, moose fukking imbecile.
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I already posted this thread like 2 years ago
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp⏩
What proof can you possibly show me that wormholes don't exist? That was just one example. Just try to imagine a civilization that is aMILLIONyears more advanced than ours. It's highly likely we can't even conceive what technology they have developed. Our brains are simply not equipped to envision it.It would be even more mind blowing than asking a caveman to imagine an iphone or TV.

You have a very narrow band of thinking brother. You need to open your mind.
Good analogy.

Im open to this stuff so it always interest me if something new comes up.

I can imagine if even the most brilliant ppl on earth wont be able to explain alien technology.
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Originally Posted By Underwrought⏩
God damn youre dumb as ****. The fermi paradox has nothing to do with if we have been visited or not. Its simply stating we see NO proof of alien life in the observable universe so far. And given the age of the universe and the gap of development between civilizations we should see alien civilizations that are super old and new. Or at least trace evidence they have ever existed. We have seen 0 evidence so far.

Many reasons why that might be, but it certainly appears as though intelligent life like ourselves is extremely rare.
calm down friend. just breathe.

the fermi paradox is if intelligent life exists, why havent we been contacted, or visited, or discovered evidence of their existence.

there are all kinds of rational explanations for all of them

i didnt realize you had access to all of humanity's collective evidence, you brain dead balloon animal

perhaps we DO have evidence, and YOU just havent seen it
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Originally Posted By EoR⏩
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