I thought i remembered the texts being extra fukked up. Thanks for finding them. Don't know why OP is defending her so damn hard.

Post the rest. I just had breakfast and need to purge.

Disgusting reading those messages.....

"Did you delete the messages?"

sloot gonna sloot

Yeah one case I actually followed and was interested in out of not many. I was definitely rooting for her to go to jail. Normally, I’d say they just want to blame someone but she deserves jail time for her part in him dying.Smart move by her lawyer.. trying to make her appeal to sjws and feminist around the world.

Wincel- I remember my thoughts were that she may be mentally ill but it’s probably a personality disorder that is heavy on the narcissism- same issue a lot of murderers have. Her main motive was for him to die so that she could get sympathy from people.

Not surprised OP is defending her. Sticking to your typical troll routine I see.

Having read what she said, I think she is a despicable person who should be extrajudicially welcomed to the afterlife. However, I do not believe that she is legally responsible for his death.

[QUOTE=Griggz post_id=1573467021]OP is trying to be tough, eh? I left out maybe 5 more of these where he was saying how he wasn't sure if he wanted to. She kept telling him to do it.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/RvqvlTs.jpg[ /img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/HXs4qBo.png[ /img][/QUOTE]maybe succubi are real (dead srs)

[img]https://i.imgur.com/9GTPnhA.gif[/img]

That's not the same as this case either.Is the person who tells someone to kill someone else co responsible for the murder?

N...

after reading those messages, I am glad she got handed a prison sentence. I hope she gets raped while she's inside, too.

I added in more texts in the middle. Cyberbullying and ****, telling people to KYS, etc, is one thing, but this is on another level. She was coaching him and telling him he needs to do it. A random on the internet saying that is one thing, but when its someone who you love, then i mean ****.


I think she earned her time.

I'm glad someone posted the messages, I was going to ask OP if he was aware of the nature of the messages that she sent.

My mom has literally done similar chit to me and coached me to jump from parking structures, told me I was a burden to her and ruined her life, etc. I'm still alive because I wanted to be alive. Every suicidal person has a choice. I'm trying to remind everyone that in those final moments, the words of a loved one are as distant and fleeting as the stars in the sky. Nothing anyone says affects you at that point. It literally becomes just you and the end. You have to be there to understand that. The man wanted to go. Could she have talked him out of it at the start of the texts? Perhaps. I would say it is even likely she could have, given his doubts. I believe that perhaps a Good Samaritan law is appropriate here. If someone seems suicidal, you ought to be obligated compulsorily to report it to the police. I completely agree her actions were morally wrong. But I do not believe she should be held legally responsible for his suicide.

I don't get how it's manslaughter. Isn't manslaughter when YOU kill someone? She didn't kill him, she just told him to kill himself

Don't get me wrong, she's a psycho bish and should be punished somehow. But I don't think it's manslaughter

ITT: people defending her that are ignoring the entire reason she was sentenced.[b]She also withheld information pre/post the event to family/law enforcement which could have potentially[likely] saved him.[/b]Combine that with those texts, and the right decision was easily made.


Tell me, do you think Charles Manson shouldn't have gone to prison for manslaughter? [Spoiler alert: that's what he went to jail for]. He was never convicted of directly killing anybody, just[b]manipulating [/b]people into killing others.

Well no wonder you're a goddamn incel. Your parents are horrible people that should sit and spin on a field of cacti.

[QUOTE=bartosh post_id=1573468241]ITT: people defending her that are ignoring the entire reason she was sentenced.[b]She also withheld information pre/post the event to family/law enforcement which could have potentially[likely] saved him.[/b]Combine that with those texts, and the right decision was easily made.


Tell me, do you think Charles Manson shouldn't have gone to prison for manslaughter? [Spoiler alert: that's what he went to jail for]. He was never convicted of directly killing anybody, just[b]manipulating [/b]people into killing others.[/QUOTE]Manipulating people into killing others is very different from manipulating people into killing themselves. The latter is considerably more difficult to do (though still possible). I believe they should impose Good Samaritan laws. A person ought to act in good faith to try to discourage a suicide and to report suicidal behavior to the police. We need more laws encouraging good citizenship. If you see an injured person and walk by, you are somewhat responsible if you do not try to get him help. You aren't directly responsible for his injury, but you are responsible for a kind of gross negligence. A similar situation exists here.

Lol wut? Do people even use reality anymore, or just make up any narrative they see fit to try and make a point?

Defending her so hard?

Brb calling her out for being a horrible, soulless, human kunt, but not thinking manslaughter fits = defending her so hard??

Go home 2019. Discourse is fuked.

Just read the texts... I don’t care how you people want to defend her.. if manslaughter doesn’t fit ****ing make up a new crime that she committed. That girl is a monster...

Read the texts. This is not how suicidal people speak to other suicidal people. She's crazy and unless they lock her up or give her facial reconstruction with a bullet she's gonna fool a miscer into dating her and continue spreading her webs.

Jesus. That's extreme. She was pretty obviously the prime mover here. This looks a lot less like two teenagers getting caught up in the moment and more like a premeditated plot to get attention at the cost of someone's life.

Don't like what I say so you tell me to leave? How is that discourse?

You want discourse? How was Manson responsible for manslaughter, but she gets off scott free? What about the posts stating that she withheld information from the police? What is your stance on that? Do you feel that intentionally manipulating a suicidal person who loves you into killing themselves, and coaching them exactly on how to do so means one is innocent when that person eventually goes through with it?

God damnit. I agree with wincel.

I agree with you, OP. She is not responsible for his suicide. They should pass a Good Sam law. For future cases like this, people could be prosecuted under that.

pls respond

So I watch a movie about killing people and three I go out and kill people, whose at fault? “But the movie influenced me”...

I do agree that she is a ****ty person for encouraging him and not trying to get him help

I already said I dont think she is without culpability.

I told 2019 to go home.. a pretty common euphemism to show a distaste for current social norms. Never told you to "leave."

Reckless endangerment might fit, I dont have the answers sway .

This!

Anyone who finds that entertaining clearly a danger to society.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

Edit^^ I don’t know exactly if that fits but this is how the judicial system works. In years to come this case will be used to put other people away that do the same thing. We look at what she did and the majority can see that she was wrong and therefore punished, just like a jury decided. This is how laws are put in place. So it might not fit a crime perfectly but it will eventually. So the next time this happens there won’t be much of an argument to if the person deserved it or not.

My problem with manslaughter charges is when it’s a complete accident..your brain doesn’t always register the fact that when you’re speeding or not following the rules of the road that you might hit and kill someone but you could and it’s not looked at as an accident.

Edit- this guy explains it perfectly

"Given the expansive definition of manslaughter under Massachusetts law, the guilty verdict is not a surprise," CNN legal analyst Danny Cevallos said.

"Still, this verdict is concerning because it reflects a judicial willingness to expand legal liability for another person's suicide, an act which by definition is a completely independent choice," he said. "Historically, suicide has been considered a superseding act which breaks the chain of legal causation."

In charging Carter with involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors were threading a legal needle, another legal expert said.

"I thought it was a square peg in a round hole, it wasn't a great fit for manslaughter," Daniel Medwed, professor of law and criminal justice at Northeastern University, said after the decision. "Her behavior was so morally reprehensible, but I wasn't sure how, as a matter of law, it constituted as manslaughter."

Medwed said manslaughter involves direct action such as a drunk driver who slams into a car or someone who fires a gun into a crowd to recklessly cause a death.

"This case involves mainly words, but ultimately [Roy] decided to do the deed, so it didn't fit in with the classic patter of manslaughter," he said. "But the facts are so powerful, so compelling and her behavior so apparent that I'm not shocked she got convicted for manslaughter