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Thread: Trump will sign spending bill and declare a national emergency, Mitch McConnell says

post 1573669401 02-14-2019, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Completely agree with this.

The President has a limited set of tools but is still incredibly powerful, especially as an "outsider" that is free to play both sides.

The message from day one is that congress must live up to their responsibilities. Use the veto power. Tell congress to assume every bill is getting an automatic veto unless they come talk to the White House to see if something can be worked out. Remind the Republicans he didn't need them during the election and doesn't need them now either becasue he doesn't give a fuk and will happily work with any Democrat who might need a little side deal for their district in exchange for a future vote for the easily sold idea of border security. Make every speech about congress, praising and shaming as needed. It's basic art of the deal leadership stuff applied to government and it works.

Or, I guess, blast out daily autistic tweets reminding everyone who the big dog is and see if anyone calls your bluff.
This is assuming the Democrats in congress aren't petulant children who will literally deny anything Trump tries....except for open borders and anything socialist.

You this dense?
post 1573669561 02-14-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
guaranteed trump's response to the gun control argument

"I'll be dead and gone by the time that comes into play so who cares"
Supreme Court is stacked conservative so they abide by the law. Any anti-gun NEs would be turned down by Supreme Court because of the 2nd amendment. We've said this like 10 times in this thread but I realize this is the new NPC narrative and you probably just got it uploaded into your brain by Rachel Maddow.
post 1573670221 02-14-2019, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
This is assuming the Democrats in congress aren't petulant children who will literally deny anything Trump tries....except for open borders and anything socialist.

You this dense?
Playing the partisan game is lazy and got him where he is. Brushing off half the people you need to work with as petulant children is a cop out.

I realize I won't convince Trumpers who will instinctively defend their retarded little brother that it didn't have to be this way.
post 1573670301 02-14-2019, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
guaranteed trump's response to the gun control argument

"I'll be dead and gone by the time that comes into play so who cares"
Good luck trying to take people's guns. You can try and take them from our cold, dead hands. Lefties aren't going to get them willingly.
post 1573670371 02-14-2019, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Playing the partisan game is lazy and got him where he is. Brushing off half the people you need to work with as petulant children is a cop out.

I realize I won't convince Trumpers who will instinctively defend their retarded little brother that it didn't have to be this way.
Trying to make deals with people who are blantatly open borders LUL.
post 1573670381 02-14-2019, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
Supreme Court is stacked conservative so they abide by the law. Any anti-gun NEs would be turned down by Supreme Court because of the 2nd amendment. We've said this like 10 times in this thread but I realize this is the new NPC narrative and you probably just got it uploaded into your brain by Rachel Maddow.
using that argument one could surmise that supreme court would be against the POTUS going around the congressional purse to get what he wants. it's crazy how yall think that the supreme court is going to side with the president because hes republican

to believe otherwise is believe that the supreme court will say, "to hell with how our forefathers configured the country"
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post 1573670421 02-14-2019, 07:27 PM
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B-b-but National emergency gun control

Yeah good luck with that
post 1573670721 02-14-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
Trying to make deals with people who are blantatly open borders LUL.
Get the public on your side then and they'll pressure their representatives.

It takes work though. Rolling into the office at 10:30am for half a day isn't going to cut it.
post 1573670781 02-14-2019, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
Playing the partisan game is lazy and got him where he is. Brushing off half the people you need to work with as petulant children is a cop out.

I realize I won't convince Trumpers who will instinctively defend their retarded little brother that it didn't have to be this way.
For the last 30 years "bipartisan" means Republicans suck it up and push the Democrat agenda - NEVER the other way around. Finally we have a President who's done with that BS and thank god. Liberal policy is the destruction of America.
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
Supreme Court is stacked conservative so they abide by the law. Any anti-gun NEs would be turned down by Supreme Court because of the 2nd amendment. We've said this like 10 times in this thread but I realize this is the new NPC narrative and you probably just got it uploaded into your brain by Rachel Maddow.
It doesn't have to be over gun control. They could declare a national emergency to fund socialized healthcare or free college or just to seize wealth from the rich. If you don't think there will be YUGE blowback from this, you're incredibly naive.
post 1573670861 02-14-2019, 07:35 PM
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Why stop at gun control national emergency? Why not just overhaul the whole damn system with a national emergency and turn it into a totalitarian hell hole that the left wants?
post 1573670881 02-14-2019, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
using that argument one could surmise that supreme court would be against the POTUS going around the congressional purse to get what he wants. it's crazy how yall think that the supreme court is going to side with the president because hes republican

to believe otherwise is believe that the supreme court will say, "to hell with how our forefathers configured the country"
Many of the arguments expose the desire for a partisan supreme court over a conservative court.

IMO a truly conservative court is the best thing we can hope for. If they get involved in politics we're fukked.
post 1573670891 02-14-2019, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
using that argument one could surmise that supreme court would be against the POTUS going around the congressional purse to get what he wants. it's crazy how yall think that the supreme court is going to side with the president because hes republican

to believe otherwise is believe that the supreme court will say, "to hell with how our forefathers configured the country"
The executive branch has the authority to keep America safe from foreign invaders...thus the wall and the Supreme Court approving it.

Notice how everything liberals want goes against the constitution?
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It doesn't have to be over gun control. They could declare a national emergency to fund socialized healthcare or free college or just to seize wealth from the rich. If you don't think there will be YUGE blowback from this, you're incredibly naive.
why now? not like property seizures in Sudan qualify as an American national emergency
post 1573671001 02-14-2019, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It doesn't have to be over gun control. They could declare a national emergency to fund socialized healthcare or free college or just to seize wealth from the rich. If you don't think there will be YUGE blowback from this, you're incredibly naive.
Important kissing peace to your little dream is the necessity for similar factual relevancy in order for the good law to stick.

****ing doofus.
post 1573671361 02-14-2019, 07:43 PM
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post 1573671421 02-14-2019, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It doesn't have to be over gun control. They could declare a national emergency to fund socialized healthcare or free college or just to seize wealth from the rich. If you don't think there will be YUGE blowback from this, you're incredibly naive.
-The wall being built (plus future immigration changes when Trump wins reelection) greatly limits the amount of third world socialist (Dem) voting barbarians.

-Conservatives have the Supreme Court for another 20 years which will stop all the socialist and bizarre nonsense NE's Dems want.

-Without the 3rd world barbarians voting Dem, and those currently here assimilating, the country will vote American (not socialist/leftist) and USA will get more centrist, thus eliminating idiots like AOC getting elected.

-With a more centrist government we won't have gun grabbing or climate change NEs

Conclusion: won't have to worry about Dems crazy NEs at all.
post 1573671471 02-14-2019, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
For the last 30 years "bipartisan" means Republicans suck it up and push the Democrat agenda - NEVER the other way around. Finally we have a President who's done with that BS and thank god. Liberal policy is the destruction of America.
I don't disagree with that.

But you better get all your wins when you have the numbers on your side then.
post 1573671591 02-14-2019, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I don't disagree with that.

But you better get all your wins when you have the numbers on your side then.
Agreed. That's why getting this NE is so important. Trump's the only Republican with enough balls to tackle open borders. If we fail now it's game over.
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Originally Posted By Ephedra⏩
Agreed. That's why getting this NE is so important. Trump's the only Republican with enough balls to tackle open borders. If we fail now it's game over.
it's game over
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
it's game over
Sad that you're FOR that. Crazy how much the media and Dem rhetoric can twist an individual's mind.

May god have mercy on your soul.
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Originally Posted By Trapstar4.4⏩
using that argument one could surmise that supreme court would be against the POTUS going around the congressional purse to get what he wants. it's crazy how yall think that the supreme court is going to side with the president because hes republican

to believe otherwise is believe that the supreme court will say, "to hell with how our forefathers configured the country"
Except that the whole point of executive power is to protect the country from EXTERNAL threats. There's no Constitutional Amendment stopping the President from securing the border because that's his ****ing job.
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Imagine thinking you are the best at making deals, becoming President and being so bad at making deals you have to declare a national emergency to get something you promised another country would pay for.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Imagine thinking you are the best at making deals, becoming President and being so bad at making deals you have to declare a national emergency to get something you promised another country would pay for.
Imagine being so evil that you pull a complete 180 on things you’ve previously supported while actively trying to destroy your own country while supporting illegal aliens over your own citizens.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
It doesn't have to be over gun control. They could declare a national emergency to fund socialized healthcare or free college or just to seize wealth from the rich. If you don't think there will be YUGE blowback from this, you're incredibly naive.
What is the difference between the items you listed and the one being discussed?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Something.. something.. art of the deal..

Idk, I guess when Pelosi makes you her bitch Trump really doesn't have another way to try to save face.

We'll see what happens.
Trump said he might resort to this before he capitulated to Pelosi. His capitulation was likely to determine if dems would negotiate for a border wall at all. They've proven that they won't, so Trump basically "justified" the national emergency. But yes, it's basically the only way he can save face, and really the only way he can get the wall... because dems won't do anything to help it along otherwise.
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Imagine being so evil that you pull a complete 180 on things you’ve previously supported while actively trying to destroy your own country while supporting illegal aliens over your own citizens.
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Imagine thinking you are the best at making deals, becoming President and being so bad at making deals you have to declare a national emergency to get something you promised another country would pay for.
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