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post 1573773421 02-16-2019, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted By BeerCalories⏩
mathematics is our representation of the world, not the order of the world
Right. In what realm does mathematics exist? And why is it that our world appears to literally be governed by mathematical laws?
post 1573774641 02-16-2019, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted By RoxyFoxy22⏩
I am always happy and cheerful, but the last 3 days were horrific for me. Someone that I love dearly faces some bad days, so I cried a lot, wondering where God is. After thinking about it at a deeper level, maybe what I perceive as bad can be someone's wake-up call and journey to become a better person, so maybe it is a blessing.


Therefore, God is in every positive aspect of our life, including the power we have when we push, despite feeling like giving up. And God is in life and love and all the beautiful people we care about, so I think he is everywhere, we just need to count more of his blessings and learn to thank him for the obstacles too.
lol.

God is a made up fantasy that was relevant 2000 years ago but nowadays is a crux for weak/stupid people. People who push it on to their kids should be ashamed and adults who willingly take it up should seriously question their critical thinking capacities.
post 1573774671 02-16-2019, 02:28 AM
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Cause I know there's a better place than this place I'm living
How far is heaven?
So I just got to have some faith and just keep on giving
How far is heaven? (Yeah, Lord, can you tell me?)
How far is heaven? (Cause I just got to know how far, yeah)
How far is heaven? (Yeah, Lord, can you tell me?)
How far is heaven? (Cause I just gotta know how far)
I just want to know how far
post 1573775971 02-16-2019, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Chezdon⏩
lol.

God is a made up fantasy that was relevant 2000 years ago but nowadays is a crux for weak/stupid people. People who push it on to their kids should be ashamed and adults who willingly take it up should seriously question their critical thinking capacities.
Right....

Cuz recent history, like with the 20th century, was full of strong, intelligent, courteous atheists who showed the world just how much more they valued human life than those silly religious nutters.

What's the harm in being one's own God? Not like gas chambers or gulags are really a bad thing.

/sarcasm
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post 1573778421 02-16-2019, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
Right....

Cuz recent history, like with the 20th century, was full of strong, intelligent, courteous atheists who showed the world just how much more they valued human life than those silly religious nutters.

What's the harm in being one's own God? Not like gas chambers or gulags are really a bad thing.

/sarcasm
A child's argument.
post 1573778661 02-16-2019, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
Do you believe you are conscious?
Yeah but consciousness is a part of my physical self.
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post 1573779011 02-16-2019, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
Yeah but consciousness is a part of my physical self.
And the physical self exists within the universe. And what is the logical cause of the universe's existence? Most physics theories posit that it is a mathematical structure, but they cannot tell us "why" anything exists at all. One then is led to question the realm of mathematical structures and the origin of mathematics itself and "why" it "exists" in a platonic sense. And there is no answer to that, God or not. It's horrifying and perplexing when you think about it. The question of existence itself appears to be inaccessible to both rational deduction and empirically derived theory.
post 1573779261 02-16-2019, 05:38 AM
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There is no such thing as "where" is god, god is god.
post 1573779371 02-16-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted By satfatconsumer⏩
There is no such thing as "where" is god, god is god.
Why? God must exist within some type of structure, even if that structure is God itself. One then can ask in what realm does that structure exist? Is it a physical or mathematical entity or something else (what would that be?)? We could also ask whether God is subject to logical constraints. It seems that God cannot make a contradiction true. So, we are left wondering how logic exists at all. The question of why there is something rather than nothing would probably vex even God...
post 1573779411 02-16-2019, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
And the physical self exists within the universe. And what is the logical cause of the universe's existence? Most physics theories posit that it is a mathematical structure, but they cannot tell us "why" anything exists at all. One then is led to question the realm of mathematical structures and the origin of mathematics itself and "why" it "exists" in a platonic sense. And there is no answer to that, God or not. It's horrifying and perplexing when you think about it. The question of existence itself appears to be inaccessible to both rational deduction and empirically derived theory.
Many people accept there’s a god with no proof at all. Belief in god is a product of upbringing, societal and cultural convention, a desire for comfort and intellectual laziness.
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post 1573779461 02-16-2019, 05:45 AM
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Possibily in the fabric of universe, but it wouldnt be anthropomorphized, it'd be the order of the cosmos, physics and interactions, or maybe collective awareness
I got this
post 1573779591 02-16-2019, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
Yeah but consciousness is a part of my physical self.
You know that how?
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post 1573779651 02-16-2019, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
Many people accept there’s a god with no proof at all. Belief in god is a product of upbringing, societal and cultural convention, a desire for comfort and intellectual laziness.
My point is whether you accept God exists or not, there is a more perplexing question about why any "thing" exists in any form at all. And I don't mean just in a physical sense. The universe may have had a beginning. It may have even had a creator. Maybe it persisted as a mathematical object. Or maybe not. That doesn't explain the existence of any particular thing. Even if God is invoked, there is no logical explanation of God. If God is considered to be the first and most primitive thing, then there are no things to relate to that would logically imply that thing. Not even God could explain its own existence. But this holds whether you believe in God or not. Nobody can explain the original thing, whatever it may be, whether you take it to be your own conscious existence, God, the physical universe, or the first set required to be assumed to exist for any type of logical discourse, or whatever else.
post 1573781501 02-16-2019, 06:43 AM
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If God exists he's done a pretty chitty job








He doesn't exist btw
post 1573781781 02-16-2019, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩
If God exists he's done a pretty chitty job








He doesn't exist btw
I know.
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post 1573782321 02-16-2019, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted By ChristianMR⏩
In your heart.

Spoiler!
Just kidding
Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
God is like Bigfoot, people believe he exists but no one has ever seen him.
some people would say you can't see your emotions either...

but they exist.
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post 1573786231 02-16-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By johsin28⏩
some people would say you can't see your emotions either...

but they exist.
But we are aware of our emotions existence by them actually affecting every living human ever.

There is proof of our emotions, no proof of God though
post 1573798991 02-16-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah⏩
But we are aware of our emotions existence by them actually affecting every living human ever.

There is proof of our emotions, no proof of God though
Agreed.
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i believe we are all part of god, god is not a single entity.
post 1573799851 02-16-2019, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By aspirex⏩
i believe we are all part of god, god is not a single entity.
But he’s depicted as being a man.
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post 1573801671 02-16-2019, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
But he’s depicted as being a man.
just an illusion maybe
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cant prove he is not there
cant prove he is there
post 1573801811 02-16-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By hoganrulz⏩
The bottom of the shot glass homie. Keep missing him, so gotta refill and try again.

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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
I’m gonna light the grill in a few, I might get on that brown and see if I can find him.

Edit: Not the UK brown, I talking about cognac bebhi
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Originally Posted By Chezdon⏩
lol.

God is a made up fantasy that was relevant 2000 years ago but nowadays is a crux for weak/stupid people. People who push it on to their kids should be ashamed and adults who willingly take it up should seriously question their critical thinking capacities.
Yea you’re all very intelligent and logical until someone points out you believe in something from nothing, an effect with no cause, which completely undermines the empirical logic you seem to worship as blindly as half the half wits who blindly follow religion. You’d rather say I don’t know than believe something living outside of our universe creating it has more logical applicability than you’re autistic interpretations of intellectual logic procession
Hm.

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Originally Posted By DemiBrah⏩
Yea you’re all very intelligent and logical until someone points out you believe in something from nothing, an effect with no cause, which completely undermines the empirical logic you seem to worship as blindly as half the half wits who blindly follow religion. You’d rather say I don’t know than believe something living outside of our universe creating it has more logical applicability than you’re autistic interpretations of intellectual logic procession
I don't know is an accurate statement. Saying something is outside of our universe making things has no basis in evidence. I'm ok admitting I don't know everything. It doesn't mean i'm gonna fill in the blanks with feel good emotions.

God had no problem literally talking to people in the bible or using avatars and angels. All powerful is just that right? All powerful?

That mean sthat if God is in fact real and wants me to actually give a damn that he/she/it exists, then God is perfectly capable of doing so. No attempt has been made yet, and all I hear are a bunch of humans, who are just as qualified in this field of life that I am, telling me about how their brand of God is definitely real.

I'll wait to hear it from the horses' mouth, and to say that is impossible is saying that Godcan'tdo anything.
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a simple question, were we was before life?
where we will be after death?

can we have a certain answer?

its a loop...kept like this
dont think we will break it even
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
I don't know is an accurate statement. Saying something is outside of our universe making things has no basis in evidence. I'm ok admitting I don't know everything. It doesn't mean i'm gonna fill in the blanks with feel good emotions.

God had no problem literally talking to people in the bible or using avatars and angels. All powerful is just that right? All powerful?

That mean sthat if God is in fact real and wants me to actually give a damn that he/she/it exists, then God is perfectly capable of doing so. No attempt has been made yet, and all I hear are a bunch of humans, who are just as qualified in this field of life that I am, telling me about how their brand of God is definitely real.

I'll wait to hear it from the horses' mouth, and to say that is impossible is saying that Godcan'tdo anything.
Totally an acceptable statement and I’m not saying I do know. The difference is the psychology of the individual who’d rather say I don’t know but still attack the concept of god being just as ignorant, unintelligent, and pious as the uneducated religious folk who chit on science with the same zeal. You have two groups of morons chitting on each other claiming to be superior because they’re too ignorant to realize the legitimacy of both ideals.

The idea that God should go out of his way to prove something to everyone though is laughable so not gonna touch it but that’s your go at it so w/e
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Originally Posted By DemiBrah⏩
Totally an acceptable statement and I’m not saying I do know. The difference is the psychology of the individual who’d rather say I don’t know but still attack the concept of god being just as ignorant, unintelligent, and pious as the uneducated religious folk who chit on science with the same zeal. You have two groups of morons chitting on each other claiming to be superior because they’re too ignorant to realize the legitimacy of both ideals.

The idea that God should go out of his way to prove something to everyone though is laughable so not gonna touch it but that’s your go at it so w/e
Didn't say what he should do. If he's real and all powerful, he can and will do what he wants. The only people telling me what God wants are people that aren't God. God seems to want all sorts of different things depending on which culture says so.

If God loves me, then God will want me to be saved. God knows I won't trust humans on this, and knows exactly what I need to see/hear to believe. I don't know wthat that thing is, but an all powerful God must know. If my immortal soul is worth something, and God wants me to not burn in hell, then a loving God will find a way to reach me. However this happens, I will not be able to deny a God, because I will know.

Until that moment happens, I will remain a skeptic. You may say "How arrogant to think God would blah blah blah". Say's who? The bible has God literally getting involved with many people, but I'm somehow arrogant because I won't trust an argument based in feelings over facts from another mortal being? God is literally everywhere supposedly, so I don't see how showing up somewhere he already is is out of the way. That sounds like some human logic there. I'll wait for the big cheese to respond.
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