Fruit and vegetables have changed drastically in modern times. You would not recognize them in the times of our ancestors.

Fruits have a lot of vitamins, antioxidants, and enzymes. They are not "mostly sugar." Some fruits have higher sugar content than others. What is important is the balance between fiber and sugar.

The AHA defines the daily sugar allowance as sugar being added to food. Fruit does not count. It's like comparing coca cola made with real coca leaves, and the pure, refined form of coca.

My question is: If someone is addicted to sugar, and has a problem with quitting and wishes to abstain completely, then is eating fruit going to trigger cravings? On one hand, it's obviously not the same as the refined form. On the other hand, it's just a weaker version.

The optimal diet is 50% grass fed or wild meat/fish/eggs, 30% fruits, 20% greens/sweet potato

the fruit available today was never supposed to exist. it's giant genetically modified sugar bombs, made to be fake delicious with sugar. any potential benefits fruit provides are more than negated by all the sugar, which is literally poison.

fruits in nature were very small, bitter, and only available seasonally if at all. they served the purpose of helping us fatten up around harvest time (fall) so we could more likely survive the winter.

if you're trying carnivore, I'd recommend at least 3 months completely strict. zero fruits, zero veggies, just lots of fatty meat. after 3 months, you can experiment with adding veggies back in. I did a full year carnivore strict, but after the year ended, I started having veggies occasionally just because I do enjoy them sometimes. other than having slightly heftier shts the next day, they don't affect me negatively. but I do believe veggies are unnecessary, except in the context of a standard sht diet, in which case they can help push all the toxins through the body faster. all the nutrition we need to survive is in fatty meat. just make sure you prioritize fat. don't need as much protein as we've been taught to believe.

Lmao at the people saying fruits will give you diabetes when people are drinking 2L of cocacola everyday. fruits have fiber, antioxidants, and vitamins.

Goes without same, everything in moderation. Except maybe if you have diabetes, most things that are mostly sugar regardless are going to raise your blood sugar levels.

Fruits are only bad if you consume too much of it, like most foods. My dad has high potassium levels in his blood so his doctor told him to not eat any bananas, or to severely limit them. Eating bananas in this context wouldn't be very healthy.

I don't personally eat a lot of fruits, not that I don't like them, I just prefer other foods more. I eat a lot of veggies if anything. But fruits have all sorts of vitamins and antioxidents. They are also better than just straight up added sugars from juices because fruit juices don't really contain fiber. Fiber is key for keeping your blood-sugar levels in check and it helps dampen sharp rises in it.

Just don't eat like 20 apples and bananas a day and you should be aight. Not that most people could anyways.

completely wrong about antioxidents, vitamins, and fiber.

humans dont need fiber. there are no vitamins in fruit and there are no antioxidents in fruit.

completely wrong about antioxidents, vitamins, and fiber.

humans dont need fiber. there are no vitamins in fruit and there are no antioxidents in fruit.

Goes without same, everything in moderation. Except maybe if you have diabetes, most things that are mostly sugar regardless are going to raise your blood sugar levels.

Fruits are only bad if you consume too much of it, like most foods. My dad has high potassium levels in his blood so his doctor told him to not eat any bananas, or to severely limit them. Eating bananas in this context wouldn't be very healthy.

I don't personally eat a lot of fruits, not that I don't like them, I just prefer other foods more. I eat a lot of veggies if anything. But fruits have all sorts of vitamins and antioxidents. They are also better than just straight up added sugars from juices because fruit juices don't really contain fiber. Fiber is key for keeping your blood-sugar levels in check and it helps dampen sharp rises in it.

Just don't eat like 20 apples and bananas a day and you should be aight. Not that most people could anyways.

Based on what? Where the fukk are you people coming up with this stuff?

If anyone ever says "dont eat fruit, fruit is bad for you" run.

They did a study where they ate 20 servings a day and their insulin and triglucerides were fine/improved

https://nutritionfacts.org/2017/02/2...oo-much-fruit/
(Im not advocating veganism, just saying)

Goes without same, everything in moderation.

Tarsiers are the only primates that don't eat plant matter, and we're not closely related to them (at all). Our closest primate relatives are primarily herbivores and sometimes eat meat.

Overthinking it bro fruit is ****ing delicious

Brb going to a strawberry field and stuffing myself

Brb eating blueberry like nobodies business

Brb still don't have diabetes

Just an fyi, sure eat fruits and veggies (imo particularly focus on ones in season) but man developed our massive brains largely, if not basically wholly, because of our consumption of nutrient and calorie dense meat.

I'm not saying we didn't or shouldn't eat fruits and non-meats, just saying man is designed to eat meat and lots of it. As we evolved, our digestive track got smaller as our brains capable of more complex thought (and using more energy). We're not that closely related to any monkey, we're apes anyway.

Modern fruits have been manipulated by man to be sweeter, and I don't know for sure but I am guessing have a higher fructose content, than fruit was (which was by-and-large at it's sweetest before man: about the same as a carrot).

However, if you're not keto or carnivore or something, fruit isn't going to kill you, it's more about CONTEXT, like anything.

Fructose IS bad, it's really, really bad. Terrible: and I will explain why.

Glucose can be used by every-single-cell in your body as energy. When you take in glucose, it's shuttled around your body and spread around, about 80% of it goes throughout your body. The remaining small 20% is processed in your liver, converted into glycogen, stored in the liver as energy, shuttled around your body to use as immediate energy or also stored in your muscle. If there is an excess, meaning you don't need the energy and your liver and muscles are already full-up -- it's stored as fat.

With glucose, this is also about context as well. Glucose that comes with a fiber-rich meal or complex carbohydrates, which are just a string of glucose molecules, it's going to slow the process down, give your body more time to process the energy, meaning there is more time to use up energy and more time for your liver to process things. More time is generally a good thing.

Sucrose, table sugar, is one molecule of glucose and one molecule of fructose.

High fructose corn syrup is just fructose.

So, when you eat like an apple -- there is whatever grams of pure fructose (bad!) BUT... it's not many grams of it, fruit tends to have fiber which slows the process down, fruit also has nutrients and other benefits, and you're fine.

However, drink that HFCS coke with the same amount of fructose as 12 apples, no fiber, no nutrients, with a meal of a greasy burger and fries? THAT chit is bad news. Massive insulin spike, too fuking many calories at once, way too much fructose for your liver to handle at once, almost no fiber to slow the process down, the non-fructose carbs are chit and a ton of calories all at once.

So, don't freak out over fruit. Moderate it, sure. Those vegan morons with banana diets can get bent, but for a normal person with a normal diet, nothing to worry about.

but to become a chad with abs good luck eating berries and staying lean

These plants do not want to kill the animals that eat the fruits and spread the seeds.

Who the fukk would spread their seeds otherwise?

Fruits provide nourishment for wild animals. And animals chit out the seeds and spread plant life in return.

You definitely do not want to eat too many fruits cause that’s a lot of sugar. But to say that fruits are bad is retarded.

These plants do not want to kill the animals that eat the fruits and spread the seeds.

Who the fukk would spread their seeds otherwise?

Fruits provide nourishment for wild animals. And animals chit out the seeds and spread plant life in return.

You definitely do not want to eat too many fruits cause that’s a lot of sugar. But to say that fruits are bad is retarded.

Based on what? Where the fukk are you people coming up with this stuff?



Good post, but m8, it's not "goes without same"; it's "goes without saying."

Tarsiers are the only primates that don't eat plant matter, and we're not closely related to them (at all). Our closest primate relatives are primarily herbivores and sometimes eat meat.

this was my exact conflict i also think fruits dont wanna kill you because they need you but at same time they trick you into wanting them over another fruit..or other food in general, since you can only eat so much . if there are 100 different types of fruits the one that tastes the best = gets eaten the most = gets pooped out the most and spreads fruit life , we can also assume they will want you to eat them over meat and other foods since you can only eat so much food ,
so it might not be just about keeping you healthy for longevity to keep you spreading but it also could be tricking you into thinking its better than another fruit/food by makin it taste better but not actually be that good for you, am i making sense?

Goes without same, everything in moderation. Except maybe if you have diabetes, most things that are mostly sugar regardless are going to raise your blood sugar levels.

Fruits are only bad if you consume too much of it, like most foods. My dad has high potassium levels in his blood so his doctor told him to not eat any bananas, or to severely limit them. Eating bananas in this context wouldn't be very healthy.

I don't personally eat a lot of fruits, not that I don't like them, I just prefer other foods more. I eat a lot of veggies if anything. But fruits have all sorts of vitamins and antioxidents. They are also better than just straight up added sugars from juices because fruit juices don't really contain fiber. Fiber is key for keeping your blood-sugar levels in check and it helps dampen sharp rises in it.

Just don't eat like 20 apples and bananas a day and you should be aight. Not that most people could anyways.

Just an fyi, sure eat fruits and veggies (imo particularly focus on ones in season) but man developed our massive brains largely, if not basically wholly, because of our consumption of nutrient and calorie dense meat.

I'm not saying we didn't or shouldn't eat fruits and non-meats, just saying man is designed to eat meat and lots of it. As we evolved, our digestive track got smaller as our brains capable of more complex thought (and using more energy). We're not that closely related to any monkey, we're apes anyway.

Gimme a break I was eating fruit when I was 6'1"" and 155

completely wrong about antioxidents, vitamins, and fiber.

humans dont need fiber. there are no vitamins in fruit and there are no antioxidents in fruit.