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Originally Posted By VinnyPazRules⏩
well considering I sell in the richest city in my province, probably a lot.How many rich people do you know op?
Originally Posted By CommonPheasant⏩
no.. pirated copygot this from the preview: "• About 80 percent of us are first-generation affluent. " more substance to the argument
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant⏩
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most tradies and wage cucks literally work 40-50 hrs a week... then spend the rest of their time getting wasted or wasting their life in other ways. Their allocation of resources (ie. time) correlates perfectly to their lack of finance.^^^This
It's a cult of personality that most rich people have built up. Most tradie or wage cuck can't put in 80s hrs, especially if their job is labor intensive. Also, middle to lower class have families.
It's a cult of personality that most rich people have built up. Most tradie or wage cuck can't put in 80s hrs, especially if their job is labor intensive. Also, middle to lower class have families.
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Originally Posted By ANIMALISTIKZ⏩
Do you think it's worth it?I’m around rich busy people often, they are never home between kids work trips etc
You realize you won't take any material possessions with you when you die (money included) right?
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Originally Posted By ANIMALISTIKZ⏩
or you know, hobbies and childrenmost tradies and wage cucks literally work 40-50 hrs a week... then spend the rest of their time getting wasted or wasting their life in other ways. Their allocation of resources (ie. time) correlates perfectly to their lack of finance.
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Originally Posted By UknowWho11⏩
For me it was worth it for one reason only: financial freedom so that I do not have to work anymore. Because what you will never get back as long as you live is time.Do you think it's worth it?
You realize you won't take any material possessions with you when you die (money included) right?
You realize you won't take any material possessions with you when you die (money included) right?
As a permanent life style, it doesn‘t make any sense IMO.
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Originally Posted By Pozy⏩
Pathetic cope. All of the guys I know that do quite well work 6 or 7 days a week and/or 12+ hour days very frequently.It's a cult of personality that most rich people have built up.
Originally Posted By Pozy⏩
My friends that do contract work easily get to 80 hours any chance they get. Long ago when I worked at C&S working 60 to 80 hours happened all the time. C&S selector is a massively labor intensive job.Most tradie or wage cuck can't put in 80s hrs, especially if their job is labor intensive. Also, middle to lower class have families.
Stop coping and just say what you know to be true:
"Not everyone is cut out to absolutely kill it."
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
More like:Stop coping and just say what you know to be true:
"Not everyone is cut out to absolutely kill it."
"Not everyone is cut out to absolutely kill it."
“Not everyone wants to work their life away.”
A) Make 60k and be able to enjoy my life, friends, and family
B) make 120k and spend my entire life working.
Most would choose A
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
1 - where did you live where 60k was barely making ends meet lmaoI’ve made 60gs before and it was actually horrible.... after rent I couldn’t afford to do anything
Brb can’t go out for nice dinners
Brb can’t take girls out for dates
Brb can’t buy nice clothes
Brb can’t go on multiple vacations per year
The list goes on and on
Brb can’t go out for nice dinners
Brb can’t take girls out for dates
Brb can’t buy nice clothes
Brb can’t go on multiple vacations per year
The list goes on and on
2 - you think ppl putting in 80 hour weeks are going on multiple vacations a year?
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Originally Posted By UknowWho11⏩
100% worth it everytime. Financial freedom creates opportunity for your family and generational wealth does it for the rest of your lineage in history. I think it would be better to argue against why coping mechanisms arent conductive to results at this point. It's almost a waste of my energy to teach at this point.Do you think it's worth it?
You realize you won't take any material possessions with you when you die (money included) right?
You realize you won't take any material possessions with you when you die (money included) right?
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
And 2 grand is average man I got buddies only making 60k a year paying that rent.I like to do a few trips a year and these people saying they work 80 hours per week need to relax ... probably more like 60ish
Won’t give my location but my rent is 2 grand per month
You do the math big dog
Won’t give my location but my rent is 2 grand per month
You do the math big dog
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
The fact that you only gave 2 options and what you chose for those 2 options says a lot.More like:
“Not everyone wants to work their life away.”
A) Make 60k and be able to enjoy my life, friends, and family
B) make 120k and spend my entire life working.
Most would choose A
“Not everyone wants to work their life away.”
A) Make 60k and be able to enjoy my life, friends, and family
B) make 120k and spend my entire life working.
Most would choose A
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The real boner of this paradigm is that I know LOTS of people who work their asses off, but aren't rich. My boss has been putting in huge hours for 8 years now. He literally sleeps with his laptop next to his bed so he can get up to answer emails at 3:00AM. He somehow worked 90 hours last week, barely slept.
Yet, not a single promotion in that time. A decade of his life will soon be gone, having barely seen his family or done anything other than slave away for someone else.
Yet, not a single promotion in that time. A decade of his life will soon be gone, having barely seen his family or done anything other than slave away for someone else.
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Lol well that's why its smarter to invest those hours on yourself... you guys fail to comprehend the first post and have coped with pages of replies.The real boner of this paradigm is that I know LOTS of people who work their asses off, but aren't rich. My boss has been putting in huge hours for 8 years now. He literally sleeps with his laptop next to his bed so he can get up to answer emails at 3:00AM. He somehow worked 90 hours last week, barely slept.
Yet, not a single promotion in that time. A decade of his life will soon be gone, having barely seen his family or done anything other than slave away for someone else.
Yet, not a single promotion in that time. A decade of his life will soon be gone, having barely seen his family or done anything other than slave away for someone else.
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
Live frugally without a savings lol60k after taxes is like 40 grand which only gives you like 1300/month after you pay rent ... wtf are you supposed to do with 1300 a month lol
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Originally Posted By Pozy⏩
^^^This
It's a cult of personality that most rich people have built up. Most tradie or wage cuck can't put in 80s hrs, especially if their job is labor intensive. Also, middle to lower class have families.
It's a cult of personality that most rich people have built up. Most tradie or wage cuck can't put in 80s hrs, especially if their job is labor intensive. Also, middle to lower class have families.
Originally Posted By Pozy⏩
Pretty much this. How hard the rich actually work is greatly exaggerated. There's a reason why people keep bringing up Elon Musk. It's because he's Elon Musk--he's hardly the rule.https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.07068
^^^This study argues that it is luck.
Putting in the hours is not the only prime driver of riches. Large numbers of businesses fail within the first few years, but people put a chit ton of work into their endeavours, or at least they say they do.
In fact, as a hypothetical, I bet more people put in hours and fail to become rich than do people who put in the hours and become rich.
What would be more valuable would be a true plan or story from you and all the millionaire miscers. Who did you know? How long did it take? How did you minimize risk? What skills are best to aquire? Long term vs short term strategic plans.
My dream, which I am going after is to be a Lawyer and help people like my father. Being rich would also be a nice byproduct.
^^^This study argues that it is luck.
Putting in the hours is not the only prime driver of riches. Large numbers of businesses fail within the first few years, but people put a chit ton of work into their endeavours, or at least they say they do.
In fact, as a hypothetical, I bet more people put in hours and fail to become rich than do people who put in the hours and become rich.
What would be more valuable would be a true plan or story from you and all the millionaire miscers. Who did you know? How long did it take? How did you minimize risk? What skills are best to aquire? Long term vs short term strategic plans.
My dream, which I am going after is to be a Lawyer and help people like my father. Being rich would also be a nice byproduct.
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
What if I come from a welfare family background ?All the rich people I know have very large networks and went to prestigious schools.
They all move to the city after uni and maintain that crew.
I work in finance and the majority of my colleagues went to private schools and come from well off families; their parents are CEOs, partners at law firms, MDs at investment banks etc.
You can defn make it coming from a middle/lower class background but you’ll have to grind a little harder and have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. These kids are groomed at a young age and have a set path so you’ll have to kind of figure things out for yourself.
They all move to the city after uni and maintain that crew.
I work in finance and the majority of my colleagues went to private schools and come from well off families; their parents are CEOs, partners at law firms, MDs at investment banks etc.
You can defn make it coming from a middle/lower class background but you’ll have to grind a little harder and have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. These kids are groomed at a young age and have a set path so you’ll have to kind of figure things out for yourself.
Like dirt poor ?
Can I still make it to millions ?
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Originally Posted By dogorman7⏩
80% of millionaires have first generation wealthWhat if I come from a welfare family background ?
Like dirt poor ?
Can I still make it to millions ?
Like dirt poor ?
Can I still make it to millions ?
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i don't know how people can live on less than 400k a year these days. like how do you afford to eat out, pay a mortgage and buy clothes, go on vacations?
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
So now you take a few. At bare min let’s say a few means 3. If you’re taking a true vacation every 4 months that is far far above average.I like to do a few trips a year and these people saying they work 80 hours per week need to relax ... probably more like
60ish
I get 21 days of vacation and most good firms will allow you to completely disconnect from email while on vacation
Won’t give my location but my rent is 2 grand per month
You do the math big dog
60ish
I get 21 days of vacation and most good firms will allow you to completely disconnect from email while on vacation
Won’t give my location but my rent is 2 grand per month
You do the math big dog
2k a month in rent is nothing crazy. Especially if you live with a sig other. 2k a month on 60k salary does not equate to barely scraping by unless you are living outside your means in other areas.
Looks like Poor money management on your part
Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
WelllThe fact that you only gave 2 options and what you chose for those 2 options says a lot.
1) I didn’t choose anything
2) I’m sorry I was unable to provide every single possible salary and weekly hour total possible bud.
What better scenario would you like?
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
First off $60k per year is basically minimum wage. If you are not making that by 25 you are either lazy or have no skills, both are your fault.Welll
1) I didn’t choose anything
2) I’m sorry I was unable to provide every single possible salary and weekly hour total possible bud.
What better scenario would you like?
1) I didn’t choose anything
2) I’m sorry I was unable to provide every single possible salary and weekly hour total possible bud.
What better scenario would you like?
Secondly, $120k yr is still chump change and easily attainable at 40 hrs per week, again if you aren’t lazy and IQ above 85.
Real money starts at $400k, that’s when you can expect to have your life revolve around your job with long hours and sacrifices.
Also LOL @ brahs who think 40 hrs a week is a lot.
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Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
It is good that you earn 150+..what field are you in?Well it’s a good thing I make over 150k per year ... I’m of the opinion that instead of trying to pinch pennies you should go HAM and focus on earning more money so you can do the things you want
Anyways when you get to 150k you’ll start comparing yourself to guys who make 300k and the cycle goes on and on, so we’re all really just peasants ...earn as much as you can, stay humble and enjoy life
Anyways when you get to 150k you’ll start comparing yourself to guys who make 300k and the cycle goes on and on, so we’re all really just peasants ...earn as much as you can, stay humble and enjoy life
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One of my favorite misc trends is everyone going out of their way to pretend low six figures is not a good living.First off $60k per year is basically minimum wage. If you are not making that by 25 you are either lazy or have no skills, both are your fault.
Secondly, $120k yr is still chump change and easily attainable at 40 hrs per week, again if you aren’t lazy and IQ above 85.
Real money starts at $400k, that’s when you can expect to have your life revolve around your job with long hours and sacrifices.
Secondly, $120k yr is still chump change and easily attainable at 40 hrs per week, again if you aren’t lazy and IQ above 85.
Real money starts at $400k, that’s when you can expect to have your life revolve around your job with long hours and sacrifices.
It also isn’t “easily attainable” at 40 hours unless you’re a dentist or something. Which isn’t an easily attainable career.
I know you’re trolling. But do better next time
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
I make 100k yr at 40 hrsIt is good that you earn 150+..what field are you in?
One of my favorite misc trends is everyone going out of their way to pretend low six figures is not a good living.
It also isn’t “easily attainable” at 40 hours unless you’re a dentist or something. Which isn’t an easily attainable career.
I know you’re trolling. But do better next time
One of my favorite misc trends is everyone going out of their way to pretend low six figures is not a good living.
It also isn’t “easily attainable” at 40 hours unless you’re a dentist or something. Which isn’t an easily attainable career.
I know you’re trolling. But do better next time
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Yes many of them are hard workers. Many of them also inherited a lot of money and started to take interest in making more. And ofc there is a group of those that are on social media bragging about the money they didnt earn so people get an ilusion that there are no hard workers, just the lucky ones
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Completely missing the point. You are making the world out to be binary choices. You implied that things are intrinsically linked when they are not.1) I didn’t choose anything
2) I’m sorry I was unable to provide every single possible salary and weekly hour total possible bud.
What better scenario would you like?
2) I’m sorry I was unable to provide every single possible salary and weekly hour total possible bud.
What better scenario would you like?
Eat in a deficit to lose weight.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drinkCompletely missing the point. You are making the world out to be binary choices. You implied that things are intrinsically linked when they are not.
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...and its not only the work, its the life impact and risk these people soak up.
Its why I LOL at people that claim CEOs make too much money. They work 80-100 hours a week, travel 50 weeks out of the year and assume massive amounts of risk..
If you lose a job as a CEO your odds of forced retirement (as in not ever finding another CEO job again) are ridiculously high. Its why contracts, ridiculous salaries and golden parachutes exist...No one would take a CEO gig without some form of insurance.
Its why I LOL at people that claim CEOs make too much money. They work 80-100 hours a week, travel 50 weeks out of the year and assume massive amounts of risk..
If you lose a job as a CEO your odds of forced retirement (as in not ever finding another CEO job again) are ridiculously high. Its why contracts, ridiculous salaries and golden parachutes exist...No one would take a CEO gig without some form of insurance.
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
What about CEOS. directors, vice presidents etc, that step down? I know Tesla has had a lot of that....and its not only the work, its the life impact and risk these people soak up.
Its why I LOL at people that claim CEOs make too much money. They work 80-100 hours a week, travel 50 weeks out of the year and assume massive amounts of risk..
If you lose a job as a CEO your odds of forced retirement (as in not ever finding another CEO job again) are ridiculously high. Its why contracts, ridiculous salaries and golden parachutes exist...No one would take a CEO gig without some form of insurance.
Its why I LOL at people that claim CEOs make too much money. They work 80-100 hours a week, travel 50 weeks out of the year and assume massive amounts of risk..
If you lose a job as a CEO your odds of forced retirement (as in not ever finding another CEO job again) are ridiculously high. Its why contracts, ridiculous salaries and golden parachutes exist...No one would take a CEO gig without some form of insurance.
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Originally Posted By ANIMALISTIKZ⏩
Nice.I make 100k yr at 40 hrs
Originally Posted By patagucci⏩
Worked in car sales and made a ton of money really fast. Wasn’t for meSales and trading
Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
No. I was implying that some ppl prefer to work and have an easy life if it means max time with family. I provided a very very simple example and you wanted to argue SO BAD that you over looked it. You then typed this pseudo intellectual post when in reality, I don’t give a damn lol.Completely missing the point. You are making the world out to be binary choices. You implied that things are intrinsically linked when they are not.
People wanting to be a teacher making “not very much” but contributing to society and spending evenings, weekends and summers with family doesn’t mean they don’t wanna “kill it” as originally stated. It just means they prefer more meaningful things than money.
That isn’t hard to grasp. Stop wanting to argue so bad. It’s easy to see what I meant by my post. Next time I’ll type it out for you.
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