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Thread: Does White Nationalism = White Supremacy?

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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
So you're going to mince words over the way a question is formed rather than answer it. You obviously understand the question. Either answer it, or don't, but don't pretend it has anything to do with the way I worded it.
It has everything to do with the way you worded it. But, yes, I understand your attempt to pigeon hole my responses. I don’t know that much about BLM but you tried to force me into a yes/no answer about it. This is after we ignored your comment about sexism when I never talked about sex.

You obviously understand my objection to your question, if you care about the substance of my response why not just phrase it as a question?
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
It has everything to do with the way you worded it. But, yes, I understand your attempt to pigeon hole my responses. I don’t know that much about BLM but you tried to force me into a yes/no answer about it. This is after we ignored your comment about sexism when I never talked about sex.

You obviously understand my objection to your question, if you care about the substance of my response why not just phrase it as a question?
Do you think BLM is racist?
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Originally Posted By Thankless⏩
Do you think BLM is racist?
Do you think black people are racists because they say "we matter"?
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Do you think black people are racists because they say "we matter"?
"It's ok to be white" was deemed racist by your ilk.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
"It's ok to be white" was deemed racist by your ilk.
"ilk"? holy cringe

"It's ok to be white" was a reaction bycertainwhite people to blacks saying their lives matter.
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lol identity politics is the greatest thing in entertainment this decade.

A complete political identity focused around being the biggest victim, and instead of having to out-think or out-debate your opponent and defend your views and ideas vs theirs, it is a race to the bottom in the victim Olympics, a race to call the other side a racist! Once you've done enough mental gymnastics do call them a racist, you've won! Doesn't matter what your original argument(if you had one) was, calling the other side a racist is all that matters.
Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
"ilk"? holy cringe

"It's ok to be white" was a reaction bycertainwhite people to blacks saying their lives matter.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
"ilk"? holy cringe

"It's ok to be white" was a reaction bycertainwhite people to blacks saying their lives matter.
"It's ok to be white" was a statement made by white people who are tired of being told by pretty much everyone on the left that white people are evil.

Do you think "It's ok to be white" is a racist statement? Why is it ok to say "Black Lives Matter" but not "White Lives Matter"? Inb4 Olympic-level mental gymnastics.
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Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
And you can choose to do so. Why you do you need an entire country to be an ethnostate?
Beats me, I'm sure there are a multitude of justifications that are used.
Originally Posted By Aesthetical⏩
There are tons of cities which would cater to your preferences. Pick one and move there.
You might have me, a person explaining the difference between white nationalism/supremacism , as asked in the OP, confused with a white nationalist, which I am not. I personally, don't care about racial demographics very much.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
"It's ok to be white" was a statement made by white people who are tired of being told by pretty much everyone on the left that white people are evil.

Do you think "It's ok to be white" is a racist statement? Why is it ok to say "Black Lives Matter" but not "White Lives Matter"?Inb4 Olympic-level mental gymnastics.
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It's odd. Senator warren and others in congress have zero problem recognizing Israel as a Jewish homeland for Jews. Even moreso in the condition that they are god's chosen race. In fact, we have spent trillions in aid and pointless wars to ensure that their survival is assured. That is not Jewish Nationalism or "Supremacy" according to these people.

Now if I were to say "Finland should remain finnish." That would make me a white supremacist and she would attempt to prosecute me to the fullest extent of the law should she win the presidency. Weird stuff.
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These are words used to confuse you, created and used by people smarter than you, i.e. Zionists, who want to divide America and foment a race war. That way no one can oppose their agenda, which is to use America's military to conquer the Middle East.

My proof: Where do you hear these terms? That's right, the Zionist media.

What do they mean? A nationalist is nothing more than someone who puts his nation's interests first, no fighting pointless wars abroad (from that nation's perspective.) No trade agreements which put America last.

By starting with "white supremacist" and then slyly substituting "White NATIONALIST" for "supremacist," you have made "nationalist" a bad word. Everyone knows white supremacists = nazis.

They don't want nationalists who think of America first. They want internationalists who have no problem with foreign intervention, which means fighting Israel's wars.

It is also used to smear Trump supporters, who may be nationalists, but now when people hear "nationalist" they have been conditioned to think "white nationalist."

There is nothing wrong with being a nationalist. Being a "white nationalist" is a creation of the liberal Zionist media meant to scare people away from nationalism. They want trade agreements like TPP which screw America, and they want the American military to be Israel's bitch.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted By QuickNutkus⏩
It's odd. Senator warren and others in congress have zero problem recognizing Israel as a Jewish homeland for Jews. Even moreso in the condition that they are god's chosen race. In fact, we have spent trillions in aid and pointless wars to ensure that their survival is assured. That is not Jewish Nationalism or "Supremacy" according to these people.

Now if I were to say "Finland should remain finnish." That would make me a white supremacist and she would attempt to prosecute me to the fullest extent of the law should she win the presidency. Weird stuff.
You probably know the answer to this, but that's because AIPAC has essentially bought our politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, hence this cry of anti-Semitism when any criticism is levied against the current Israeli government. And not all Jewish people are pro-Netanyahu either (e.g. Bernie Sanders).

Is criticizing Obama or Trump inherently anti-American? On the contrary, it's wholly American as it's an exercise of our 1st Amendment rights. But money runs politics here.
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
This is the future of USA whether racists like it or not. Blacked lmao
So what's wrong with that? Go to NYC you see it everywhere that's why many New Yorkers will not live in redneck America. Too many rednecks.
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Originally Posted By MakeABanana⏩
You probably know the answer to this, but that's because AIPAC has essentially bought our politicians, Democrats and Republicans alike, hence this cry of anti-Semitism when any criticism is levied against the current Israeli government. And not all Jewish people are pro-Netanyahu either (e.g. Bernie Sanders).

Is criticizing Obama or Trump inherently anti-American? On the contrary, it's wholly American as it's an exercise of our 1st Amendment rights. But money runs politics here.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
If you want to continue our discussion don’t try to pigeonhole me in to your translations.
His translations were accurate. He took your concept of tribalism that you applied to race, and he reasonably applied it to gender to suggest that feminism (female tribalism) would be considered sexist by the standards that you applied tribalism to race. If you agree one way based on race, yet disagree another way based on sex, then there's an inconsistency in your logic.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I don't know why people keep posting this.

He completely rejected that later on, and renounced the Nation of Islam and embraced Sufi-Sunni Islam.

Two of his daughters married non-black people, and he was fine with it...

Given his facial expression there?

Lol jk...I met Laila Ali a few yrs ago when the GOAT passed.

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After ****n the full complexion spectrum of women I'd say I find myself most attracted to the light olive-toned women with thick curly hair whereas I am a dirty-blond fine-haired green-eyed "white devil" as Ali puts it.

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Honestly in Europe the whole concept of "white" doesn't exist. Also keep in mind that so-called white people descended from the black African man. If you're a white nationalist you're spitting on the grave of your black forefathers.
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Originally Posted By dusky99⏩
Honestly in Europe the whole concept of "white" doesn't exist. Also keep in mind that so-called white people descended from the black African man. If you're a white nationalist you're spitting on the grave of your black forefathers.
lol


I sincerely hope this is a troll.
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Originally Posted By Eugenics⏩
lol


I sincerely hope this is a troll.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
"It's ok to be white" was a statement made by white people who are tired of being told by pretty much everyone on the left that white people are evil.
It was made by /pol/, so that the mainstream media would overreact (like they did) to a neutral statement, that they would have no problem with people of another race making. It was designed to point out the mainstream media's hypocrisy and "hatred of white people". It was designed to get whites to turn on the media





The statement is of course not racist, however /pol/ is notoriously racist.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
It was made by /pol/, so that the mainstream media would overreact (like they did) to a neutral statement, that they would have no problem with people of another race making. It was designed to point out the mainstream media's hypocrisy and "hatred of white people". It was designed to get whites to turn on the media



The statement is of course not racist, however /pol/ is notoriously racist.
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Something that needs to be addressed is that the idea of a white ethnostate implies is that the white nationalist wants that state to be culturally White or culturally Japanese or Spanish you name it that is what that means so for example a white nationalist whether you're American or Hungarian or polish wants to preserve the cultural identity in your nation which means immigrants are allowed to migrate to their country however they must assimilate into that nation's cultural identity for example a muslim immigrant to the UK following British law and assimilating to British society as opposed trying to bring their former nations laws with them
No, you are describing Cultural or Civic Nationalism, not a Race or Ethno-nationalism.

Race/Ethno nationalism is about race and ethnic preservation, not simply cultural preservation. They do not accept people not of their race or ethnicity immigrating and assimilating. To race/ethno Nationalists, if you aren't of their race or ethnicity then you aren't welcome.
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Similarly, whites are scheduled to become ethnic minorities in the USA by 2045 (within 25 years). Like Canada, the US had been over 90% white for it's entire history .
Ackchually.... the land mass we know as Canada today was 100% native american for roughly 20,000 years.
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Originally Posted By Thankless⏩
Do you think BLM is racist?
I think it’s poor wording but it’s not racist.
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Originally Posted By thunderykoala⏩
His translations were accurate. He took your concept of tribalism that you applied to race, and he reasonably applied it to gender to suggest that feminism (female tribalism) would be considered sexist by the standards that you applied tribalism to race. If you agree one way based on race, yet disagree another way based on sex, then there's an inconsistency in your logic.
No. If a “feminist” said she only wanted to be around women because they were her “tribe” I would call it sexist. However I’m fairly certain every woman I know considers herself a feminist and none of them think that - so no I’m not going to apply that logic to feminism.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
I think it’s poor wording but it’s not racist.
If you changed it to "White Lives Matter", would you then consider it to be racist?
Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
No. If a “feminist” said she only wanted to be around women because they were her “tribe” I would call it sexist. However I’m fairly certain every woman I know considers herself a feminist and none of them think that - so no I’m not going to apply that logic to feminism.
But you can reasonably infer what feminism actually IS based on the actions of feminists, which is of course female supremacy/anti-male rhetoric & hatred. That makes feminism sexist.
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