It is literally cope. And it's what I learned to do in therapy to rationalize continuing to live. So I will continue to

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This is the chittiest advice I have ever seen. This is how men get turned into soyboys and orbiters. This just brings them more suffering later. Negged.

He either needs to just sack up and approach or accept his fate. He will get nowhere trying to befriend girls (Unless he keeps them at arm's length and doesn't try to become emotionally close to them...then, he can maybe use them as a way to meet other girls.) I still don't think most men can have real friendships with girls. Unless you want to be the cuck shoulder she cries on after getting railed by Chad, best to keep your distance.

Sup guys.

Basically I'm 28 years old and have never talked to a girl before. I'm a virgin needless to say and am wondering if anybody here has any advice or was in a similar situation and managed to overcome it.

I'm getting a bit worried as I am getting close to 30 and this certainly is not normal. I just don't know what to do to break out of my shyness and social anxiety with girls. I fear rejection more than anything else at this point and girls seem to be extremely cruel and unforgiving to guys who don't have the typical extroverted macho alpha male personality.

I'm in decent shape, 6'1, 190 lbs around 12 percent body fat. Hasn't really helped though, I'm still invisible and can't socialize.

This isn't carsalesman. Carsalesman has been laid. He just has absurdly high standards.

You're the last person that should be giving advice, maybe if you actually spoke to women instead of worrying about soyboys you wouldnt be a 31 year old virgin.
At least that soyboy is getting laid.

dont forget to neg me again after recharge tbh

I'm trying to pinpoint exactly who came up with the idea that being a virgin is somehow horrible. Is this mainly a western thing? I guess Eastern Europeans typically don't worry about stuff like that as much. Actually, the biggest thing is whether or not you are married by 30. That's typically the fear over here. More so for women, though. To them, a real man is not someone who sticks his dink into some p00n but someone who is responsible and can take care of himself.

AMEN! At last someone with some sense. The idea that bangging chicks is the ultimate life goal is some western cancer idea that generates a lot of frustration, degenerates and sloots. You should be more focused on having a good job, decent situation, building a family around values and morals. There is nothing wrong on being virgin if it means waiting for the right person to build a family with.

You're the last person that should be giving advice, maybe if you actually spoke to women instead of worrying about soyboys you wouldnt be a 31 year old virgin.

At least that soyboy is getting laid.

You're the last person that should be giving advice, maybe if you actually spoke to women instead of worrying about soyboys you wouldnt be a 31 year old virgin.
At least that soyboy is getting laid.

dont forget to neg me again after recharge tbh

And yet he's right. You advising men to friendzone themselves is utterly laughable.



No.. lol.. no they aren't.

Im not advising men, im advising HIM.

He said he doesn't know how to break out of his shyness and social anxiety. Thats probably because hes overthinking it and like he mentioned - fearing rejection. A good way to over come that would be to talk to women just as you would anyone else, just as friends. It''ll make good practice and build confidence.

I'm a 31 y/o virgin. I can tell you this: you aren't missing much. The majority of females, much like the majority of mankind, are terrible human beings. Most of them aren't worth sticking your dink in, and the few that are are most likely taken. Just do your best to find meaning in life. When you are younger, pussy is literally all you think about. Once you have resolved to die and accepted your death, it will not be as important to you. You will regret not having a legacy, but remember that humanity is unlikely to survive for long anyway. We are failed little combinations, suboptimal solutions to the grand evolutionary problem. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how alpha or beta a human is. Simply being human means we are ridiculously inferior to something like cyanobacteria. We will certainly go extinct soon. We were only here for the blink of an eye, and then, we will be gone. There is no legacy for mankind, so I certainly shouldn't feel so bad about there being no legacy for myself. In the grand scheme of things, we are just combinations of particles. There was nothing special or precious about our existence except the fortune (or misfortune) of being able to consciously experience it. Since we all die anyway, there is also a sense of freedom. You have time to do whatever you feel like and explore things. You can find a way to pass the time and maybe even enjoy yourself until your death. That's what I'm doing.

Dude...come on....that cope tho

wincels problem is atheism

So....you suggest he should lie to himself once again?

no chit...

Spoiler!

Im not advising men, im advising HIM.

He said he doesn't know how to break out of his shyness and social anxiety. Thats probably because hes overthinking it and like he mentioned - fearing rejection. A good way to over come that would be to talk to women just as you would anyone else, just as friends. It''ll make good practice and build confidence.

It won't. It will crush him when he gets attached and she uses him emotionally and then bails when he needs her as a friend. You really cannot and should not rely on females for emotional support. Period. If he gets into a relationship, then he can maaaaaaaybe show some vulnerability, but even then, you can't count on your girl to support you. You have to find that strength yourself. Nobody out there helps you.

Dude. She's saying just to TALK to a girl. That doesn't have to involve any emotional attachment whatsoever. Do you get emotionally attached to the girl at the checkout counter you small-talked with at the gas station yesterday? She's literally just advocating TALKING to women - no strings attached. Your response to her post really displays just how ****ed up your thinking is.

Good God, guys...

She said be friends. Talking to a girl is fine. That's a good way to boost confidence and learn to break the ice. You're attributing an opinion to me that is not mine. I never said not to talk to women. I small talk with girls all the time. I refuse to befriend girls though.

You can be "friendly" to a girl, but being friends with a girl u aren't fuking is a mistake imo.

Not sure how these FA's aren't comprehending this.

Stop thinking 12 steps ahead about whether or not you're friendzoned or she wants to bang or whatevs. Just be an entertaining conversationalist and pleasant. Boom, easy as that. Just talk. Stop thinking. Talk. Exist in the moment.

I had severe social anxiety when I started undergrad, but it gradually disappeared over the next 4-5 years (especially senior year) as I continually realized that people are empathetic creatures on the whole and aren't actively hoping for you to fail. Also got into my first LTR and fell in love, lost virginity, all that stuff.

What are you worried about OP? Like, even if a girl was to make fun of you for asking her out (unlikely), how are the consequences to that so bad? My anxiety fell away as I realized that you're in full control of how you react to negative outcomes. It doesn't have to ruin your day if you don't let it. And conversely, this mindset allowed me to become far more confident, extroverted, and likable.

Socialize as much as possible. That's what you need to do. Join clubs, sports, get a group-based hobby, do SOMETHING with other people. Build your social skills. And things should fall into place. Know that it may not be quick however, don't expect to fully conquer your anxiety in a week. But you may be surprised at how much more confident you get day by day. The thing is you gotta push yourself out of your comfort zone. Girls aren't your problem, anxiety is.

I'm a 31 y/o virgin. I can tell you this: you aren't missing much. The majority of females, much like the majority of mankind, are terrible human beings. Most of them aren't worth sticking your dink in, and the few that are are most likely taken. Just do your best to find meaning in life. When you are younger, pussy is literally all you think about. Once you have resolved to die and accepted your death, it will not be as important to you. You will regret not having a legacy, but remember that humanity is unlikely to survive for long anyway. We are failed little combinations, suboptimal solutions to the grand evolutionary problem. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how alpha or beta a human is. Simply being human means we are ridiculously inferior to something like cyanobacteria. We will certainly go extinct soon. We were only here for the blink of an eye, and then, we will be gone. There is no legacy for mankind, so I certainly shouldn't feel so bad about there being no legacy for myself. In the grand scheme of things, we are just combinations of particles. There was nothing special or precious about our existence except the fortune (or misfortune) of being able to consciously experience it. Since we all die anyway, there is also a sense of freedom. You have time to do whatever you feel like and explore things. You can find a way to pass the time and maybe even enjoy yourself until your death. That's what I'm doing.