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Thread: Does White Nationalism = White Supremacy?

post 1576866861 03-28-2019, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
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Originally Posted By bassline8⏩
Yes. Are you going to define "supremacy" now?
bestness.
you know, like Trump is "the best" president ever. not specifically "the best" at any particilar thing, just overall "the best".
do you think white people are "the best" people, overall?

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you are thinking, "What's she talking about? The best at what? Basketball? Math? Best at what?!?!
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
Are you a white nationalist?
I think he is a nationalist who is white, and believes every group of people deserve the right to self determination.

If i go to Japan, I want to see Japanese people. Does that make me an Asian/Japanese supremacist? No.

If I go to Nigeria, I want to see nigerians. Does this make me a black nationalist? No.

If I go to ANY historically white/European countries, I want to see the various europeans ethnicities/white people. Now doesthismake me a white supremacist/Nationalist? For some reason, I'd be accused as such. Wanting to see white/European people continue to exist and remain a large majority in their countries whilst fighting back against their replacement is deemed evil and wicked.
Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
I've debated with legitimate racists on other forums and they all claim that only the smartest should rule and white people should enslave blacks mexicans and other brown races because they're more intelligent and that all we're good for is cattle. Then in the same breath will bitch about the cunningness and intelligence of Jews and how they were able to trick white people to into believing the holocaust happened (because it apparently never happened) yet all of their jokes and memes mocking Jews involve corralling them up in trains, and sending them to be gassed in camps?
This happened.
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post 1576867151 03-28-2019, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
Are there any white nationalists ITT who, although they are proud of their whiteness, think that some other "race" is superior to whites? srs question.
people have this idea of generalizing everything under the sun as one "superior" schtick. every race has their positives and negatives. Things which they are better atand worse at than others.

simply acknowledging these differences in the modern age technically labels you a racist when it is obvious that some humanoid groups are better at certain activities than others. if someone thinks whites are "superior" than africans at something like the 100 meter dash thats obviously not true.

i would say 99.9 of "white nationalists" just want their own countries and for white people to govern white people with white interests in mind. and for them and their children to grow up in homogenous communities full of similar people. I would say maybe 0.1% of "white nationalists" if that have some grand visions of throwing every other race in chains so that they can personally serve them on a plantation. which is the narrative that they try to put out there which is just not true.
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Originally Posted By QuickNutkus⏩
If I go to ANY historically white/European countries, I want to see the various europeans ethnicities/white people. Now doesthismake me a white supremacist/Nationalist? For some reason, I'd be accused as such. Wanting to see white/European people continue to exist and remain a large majority in their countries whilst fighting back against their replacement is deemed evil and wicked. .
If you want Nationalist immigration polices, that focuses on specifically excluding non-whites, then that would make you a White Nationalist.

Nationalist immigration policies for western countries in and of themselves would not make someone a White Nationalist, because Nationalist Populists like Steve Bannon don't care about race, they are nativists.

Nativism is not the same as White Nationalism, because native citizens in western nations aren't necessarily white.
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Originally Posted By bassline8⏩
Superior in fu*king what? Basketball? IQ tests? Height? Ability to absorb d3 from sunshine? Crime rates?

I swear you people obsess about some mythical "superiority" 100x more than any white nationalists do.



Lmao, seems legit

What forums? Any screenshots? I think I've heard of a group that thinks of everyone else as cattle and literally believe that the God himself has chosen them to rule over all the others...
VNN were the forums

and this was a number of years ago, and yes that is exactly what they believed.
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Originally Posted By dakensta⏩
bestness.
you know, like Trump is "the best" president ever. not specifically "the best" at any particilar thing, just overall "the best".
But "the best president ever" means "the best at being a president", which is a pretty particular thing.
What you're asking is more like "who is the best person on the planet?", which is a pretty retarded question.

I have 3 questions for you, too:
1. Do you love your family?
2. Do you want your family to live together with other families under one roof, share kitchen, bathrooms, bills, etc.?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "no", do you hate all the other families and think yours is superior?
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I think there's a distinction between the two, but also a big overlap. I don't doubt that a lot of self described white nationalists are actually supremacists but would rather use a more acceptable term to appeal to more people. But, then again, there's some "white nationalists" who are genuinely good people who just want to advocate for people in their community and not have to deal with what they see as pitfalls of diversity and multiculturalism. Personally, I'm not sure where I stand. I can see arguments for people on both sides of the argument.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
If you want Nationalist immigration polices, that focuses on specifically excluding non-whites, then that would make you a White Nationalist.

Nationalist immigration policies for western countries in and of themselves would not make someone a White Nationalist, because Nationalist Populists like Steve Bannon don't care about race, they are nativists.

Nativism is not the same as White Nationalism, because native citizens in western nations aren't necessarily white.
Well with this "argument", virtually everybody could be native everywhere. That is not Nationalism of any sort, nor does anyone genuinely believe that. Nobody would claim Jared Taylor was "native" to Japan because be was born there and lived many years of his youth there. Nor would someone say he is japanese. What a ludicrous attempt to normalize European/White countries becoming non european. And that is not just demographically. The culture changes as well as the people.
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they are similar, and tend to go hand in hand

I would say white nationalism carries with it an innate sense of entitlement or superiority, whereas white supremacy doesn't necessarily require nationalistic tendencies.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I know all I need to know, you're red, have no AVI, and have a 2019 join date. If I had it my way, I would exterminate all reds.
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Originally Posted By superman704⏩
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
IMO might be more about preservation of self interest.

Take Mexican's for example. Heavily Catholic. Anti-Abortion. Have strong gender roles.

On the surface Mexican's align heavily right culturally. However, economically they are benefited from Dem positions and open border policies. The decision is less related to beliefs and more that they are doing what will benefit them the most. (As we all do.)
This. Plus, White Americans are quite different culturally from Europeans.

If given the choice I'd take immigrants from Mexico over immigrants from Germany, Scandinavia or Britain any day of the week. All groups would still vote for the same big government programs and open borders, but at least the Mexicans believe in God, aren't trending heavily towards hard left feminism, and aren't normalizing and glorifying trannies.

And while all those groups would still be mostly in favor of repealing the 2nd Amendment, I'd be willing to bet that more Mexicans would hold a favorable view on it than Western Europeans.
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Originally Posted By John
This. Plus, White Americans are quite different culturally from Europeans.

If given the choice I'd take immigrants from Mexico over immigrants from Germany, Scandinavia or Britain any day of the week. All groups would still vote for the same big government programs and open borders, but at least the Mexicans believe in God, aren't trending heavily towards hard left feminism, and aren't normalizing and glorifying trannies.

And while all those groups would still be mostly in favor of repealing the 2nd Amendment, I'd be willing to bet that more Mexicans would hold a favorable view on it than Western Europeans.
Yet the UK voted for Brexit and populism is on the rise all throughout Europe. We've seen what happens with large scale Mexican immigration in California. They love the 2nd amendment there right? Come on guy, this post makes no sense.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
they are similar, and tend to go hand in hand

I would say white nationalism carries with it an innate sense of entitlement or superiority, whereas white supremacy doesn't necessarily require nationalistic tendencies.
False, the evidence of multiculturalism and heterogeneous populations is plentiful. Has nothing to do with entitlement or superiority. Just the country you feel is better for your family.

The question is simple: Do you think life was better before or after 1965 Immigration Act? That's all you need to ask.
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Originally Posted By QuickNutkus⏩
Well with this "argument", virtually everybody could be native everywhere. That is not Nationalism of any sort,
That is still nationalism.

There are different kinds of Nationalism.

Civic Nationalism, Cutlural Nationalism, Economic Nationalism, Race Nationalism and Ethno Nationalism.

IME the people who try to deny any kind of Nationalism other than than race or ethno Nationalists, are race and ethno nationalists. I suspect it's because they want to narrow the options for people.
Nobody would claim Jared Taylor was "native" to Japan because be was born there and lived many years of his youth there. Nor would someone say he is japanese. What a ludicrous attempt to normalize European/White countries becoming non european. And that is not just demographically. The culture changes as well as the people.
Subtly name dropping a White Nationalist?

Yes, legally speaking he would be a native Japanese citizen if he was born there.

He would also be Japanese by Nationality, but not by Ethnicity. Sometimes the same term can be used for 2 different contexts. In this case the word Japanese can refer to a Nationality or an Ethnicity.

Also, are you outright claiming that the only valid forms of Nationalism are race and ethno Nationalism?

If so... Do you consider yourself a Nationalist, based onyourcriteria?
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
False, the evidence of multiculturalism and heterogeneous populations is plentiful. Has nothing to do with entitlement or superiority. Just the country you feel is better for your family.

The question is simple:Do you think life was better before or after 1965 Immigration Act? That's all you need to ask.
How would you isolate other factors, when making that decision, like; economic policies, technological advancements, the media, etc.

There were many things that changed after 1965, which affected the average person's quality of life.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
How would you isolate other factors, when making that decision, like; economic policies, technological advancements, the media, etc.

There were many things that changed after 1965, which affected the average person's quality of life.



I think we can see that "something" was a massive increase in immigration into the country. Bassline posted that productivity and wage chart in the ******** thread. He also posted some good charts showing the country's decline in family and health. Marriages are down, out of wedlock births are up, obesity is way up, anti depressant use is up.

There is a sickness in our country. It is obsessed with accumulating stuff and cheap crap from China. Our politicians are obsessed with growing GDP by tenth of a percentage point when that is going to make very few people happier and our culture continues to crumble. Massive immigration needs to happen to slightly boost GDP no matter the effect it has on middle class or the working class. Don't bother concerning yourself with the lack of assimilation or the far too rapid cultural and societal changes, GDP fool! Need to have more cheap labor slaves for big business and consumers to boost consumption for GDP. A culture obsessed with getting women in the workforce at the cost of destruction of families. Gotta boost big corporation's quarterly profits! Stay at home moms don't boost GDP you fool!




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if you are a nationalist who is white you are a white nationalist. i.e. a white supremacist and a terrorist.

at least it seems that's the way it is being framed
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Originally Posted By DukeOfWoodBerry⏩
Yet the UK voted for Brexit and populism is on the rise all throughout Europe. We've seen what happens with large scale Mexican immigration in California. They love the 2nd amendment there right? Come on guy, this post makes no sense.
Brits, Germans, Swedes, who would immigrate here would vote overwhelmingly for Sanders-style Democrats. Their conservatives are basically Democrats here.

I never said that Mexicans love the 2nd amendment. They heavily support gun control on the whole, and that's a huge problem. I am simply saying that i'd bet more Mexicans would be in favor of our right to bear arms than Western Europeans would be. Either way, both groups are against that right on the whole.
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Both are meaningless terms. Its simply propaganda used to attempt to discredit anyone who speaks ill of neo-liberal policies. Everything and everyone is a white supremacist it seems. What happens when a real white supremacist shows up?
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Originally Posted By John
Brits, Germans, Swedes, who would immigrate here would vote overwhelmingly for Sanders-style Democrats. Their conservatives are basically Democrats here.

I never said that Mexicans love the 2nd amendment. They support heavily support gun control on the whole, and that's a huge problem. I am simply saying that i'd bet more Mexicans would be in favor of our right to bear arms than Western Europeans would be. Either way, both groups are against that right on the whole.
There are a lot nationalits in Germany especially. Very large anti immigration sentiments there. Obviously they are nationalits so they probably don't want to leave their homeland. But these Mexican immigrants don't even want to learn English in many cases.
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Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
You must not venture far from bb.com forums.That behavior is very common on forums that expound racism.
Yep.

I think it's hard for people who have only been on heavily moderated forums, to realize the extent of racism towards non-whites, white nationalism and white supremacism that becomes rife on forums/places with low moderation.
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[QUOTE=BetaAsPhuck post_id=1576926131][/U][/B]

Yep.

I think it's hard for people who have only been on heavily moderated forums, to realize the extent of racism towards non-whites, white nationalism and white supremacism that becomes rife on forums/places with low moderation.[/QUOTE]Racism is everywhere. The media, music and entertainment industries, and the educational system are rife with anti-white racism. If you're so concerned with racism, why don't you start some threads about that?

You're constantly talking about an unmoderated forum that's essentially the sewer of the internet, but we have blue check marks openly calling for the death of white people on twitter.

I look forward to reading your threads defending white people in your crusade against the horrors of racism.
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Originally Posted By A-GAME⏩
I look forward to reading your threads defending white people in your crusade against the horrors of racism.
What crusade against racism?

It seems like you ignored the context the post you quoted, which was in response to another miscer's comment.

Why did you reply to me, and not to him too?
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