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post 1578347991 04-18-2019, 02:09 PM
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What she did was not racist. People who think "blackface" are the racist people. If you see anything negative about dressing up as your favorite Cosplay character then you ARE the problem.
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post 1578349171 04-18-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Bigdumogre⏩
Context does matter, but you are picking and choosing what context matters to you. As it stands, white people wearing dark makeup to appear black is the continuation of a practice tied to the mocking of black people, and often enslaved Africans, in the US. That’s the context for this. More context for this, which a lot of commenters seem to be ignoring: how the practice comes off to black Americans. If you are not a person of color (and I am not), it is not your place to say that something pertaining directly to people of color is not racist or hurtful. You are not the subject matter expert. Several organizations led by or advocating for people of color have publicly condemned the practice and have done so for years. You should be listening to them.
Fantastic post.
Originally Posted By jinda628⏩
The problem is that a lot of people who are complaining may not even be black. Twitch did this because they are SJW or afraid of the SJWs.
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You don’t need to be black to have a problem with racist material. Cmon brah
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post 1578349301 04-18-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Theres the shame tactic again lol.

If people are doing racist things, people will be offended. You’re trying to shame them out of that. “LOL JUST BUTTHURT ALL DAY!”

That’s called deflecting. It would be like making fun of dying cancer patients and then when ppl get mad, you say “lol you can be butthurt and offended! Such victim mentality!!!”

No. It’s called not being a chitty person. It’s 2019 and ppl are still arguing about not doing racist things.

Incredible
I'm not shaming anyone dude. You're projecting a lot of chit onto me that I'm not even saying.

At the end of the day it's just a girl doing some cosplay. If you want to find that offensive, that's on you. I can respect that, and I can see where you're coming from. I just think there are better battles to fight when it comes to this kind of stuff, i.e. people who who intend to be offensive, racist, cause harm to others, etc. The intention wasn't there for her, and she's not even American.

The act of face painting itself isn't harmful to anyone. It's only offensive to some because of the baggage it carries with some chitty things people did in previous generations. There's nothing really in inherently harmful about it. It's just kind of chitty that little things like this are off limits because of some generational baggage from some ignorant generations
post 1578349841 04-18-2019, 02:36 PM
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Blackface = mocking blacks by highlighting "black" features such as big lips and frizzy hair. Real "blackface" is inherently offensive.

Simply dressing up as a black character is NOT blackface.

But there is no room for nuance in today's society so phuck it, burn her at the stake!
post 1578350021 04-18-2019, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
You don’t need to be black to have a problem with racist material. Cmon brah
My point is, there are other victims of racism aside from black and you rarely hear them blow things up like this.
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post 1578350071 04-18-2019, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Blackface = mocking blacks by highlighting "black" features such as big lips and frizzy hair. Real "blackface" is inherently offensive.

Simply dressing up as a black character is NOT blackface.

But there is no room for nuance in today's society so phuck it, burn her at the stake!
yeah that's a great point too
post 1578350481 04-18-2019, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Fantastic post.
I guess you missed that part where he said that was a copy paste you idiot. Lol at negging people in here cause your feelings are hurt.
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post 1578350911 04-18-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Blackface = mocking blacks by highlighting "black" features such as big lips and frizzy hair. Real "blackface" is inherently offensive.

Simply dressing up as a black character is NOT blackface.

But there is no room for nuance in today's society so phuck it, burn her at the stake!
Originally Posted By calvesbr0⏩
yeah that's a great point too
Except it isn’t a good point. Not all black face back then was mocking black ppl lol.

Blackface was invented bc whites didn’t want to pay black ppl to act in their movies/shows/model shows/comics etc. they had “regular looking” black face too.
Originally Posted By Misctify⏩
I guess you missed that part where he said that was a copy paste you idiot. Lol at negging people in here cause your feelings are hurt.
Oh it’s a copy paste???? I guess that means it wasn’t a good post after all! Nvmd! That post sucks then!!!!!1!!!1!!!!1111
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post 1578351011 04-18-2019, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh⏩
lol


black people cosplaying white people:





white people cosplaying black people:








i think we can all agree that white people in general are in a better place in society than black people. so theres something understood to be off about white people trying to, effectively, lower their status for a fun night out. and thats without the historical connotation of black face.

just keep your own skin color jesus
Name of the girl cosplaying harley quinn?

For research...
post 1578351881 04-18-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By naaboo⏩
Pic of the person who called her stream out on Twitter
Strong hypocrisy strong everything


"y’all know y’all can still cosplay as black characters and STILL be your skin color right?"


She needs to go offline & do something with her life instead of consuming Twitter all day.
She says "*****" in her tweets. But shes not the racist.
post 1578352431 04-18-2019, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Blackface was invented bc whites didn’t want to pay black ppl to act in their movies/shows/model shows/comics etc. they had “regular looking” black face too.
That wasn't "blackface".

That was..

wait for it..

someone playing a character.

As I said, "blackface" is inherently offensive because of the history of minstrel shows.

I don't give a fuk what society says, or the media, or the popular talking heads. Dressing up or simply playing a character is not offensive.

It's funny how no one really gave a FUK about this until very recently, until being offended became socially beneficial. Tropic Thunder is a decade old. And hilarious. It was then, and it is now.
post 1578352851 04-18-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
Name of the girl cosplaying harley quinn?

For research...
wish i knew

i just googled black cosplayers and white cosplayers
post 1578353361 04-18-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
That wasn't "blackface".

That was..

wait for it..

someone playing a character.

As I said, "blackface" is inherently offensive because of the history of minstrel shows.

I don't give a fuk what society says, or the media, or the popular talking heads. Dressing up or simply playing a character is not offensive.

It's funny how no one really gave a FUK about this until very recently, until being offended became socially beneficial. Tropic Thunder is a decade old. And hilarious. It was then, and it is now.
-White guy tells black ppl what is and isn’t offensive to them. Incredible lmaoooo
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post 1578354521 04-18-2019, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
-White guy tells black ppl what is and isn’t offensive to them. Incredible lmaoooo
You can be offended by people dressing up all you want, it just lacks logic and makes you a little biznitch.

I also like how you swerved the argument and went straight to my skin colour. You need to stay off twitter for a while, buddy.

How is being perpetually offended and therefore seeing yourself as a victim helping anyone? Do you think that’s a healthy way to live?
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Females cosplay a shade every time they throw makeup on

Personally I think if it is on intent of mockery or dehumanizing if it is offensive, just like the n word
post 1578355571 04-18-2019, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
You can be offended by people dressing up all you want, it just lacks logic and makes you a little biznitch.

I also like how you swerved the argument and went straight to my skin colour. You need to stay off twitter for a while, buddy.

How is being perpetually offended and therefore seeing yourself as a victim helping anyone? Do you think that’s a healthy way to live?
Bro.

It will never be okay to paint yourself black and pretend to be a black person. I’m sorry that it hurts you that it’ll never be okay.

Get over it and stop crying snowflake
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post 1578356331 04-18-2019, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Bro.

It will never be okay to paint yourself black and pretend to be a black person. I’m sorry that it hurts you that it’ll never be okay.

Get over it and stop crying snowflake
Bro

It was okay up until a few years ago when society took a giant nosedive down the chitter and nuance went out the window which led to fully grown men getting offended at people playing dress up.

That’s the reality of the situation. You don’t have to like it, you don’t have to accept it, but facts are facts.
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Originally Posted By Godyssey⏩
Bro.

It will never be okay to paint yourself black and pretend to be a black person. I’m sorry that it hurts you that it’ll never be okay.

Get over it and stop crying snowflake
so basically, there's a difference in opinion here, but you think your skin color gives you the edge in the argument and makes you right.
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twitch is run by a bunch of idiots anyway
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Bro

It was okay up until a few years ago when society took a giant nosedive down the chitter and nuance went out the window which led to fully grown men getting offended at people playing dress up.

That’s the reality of the situation. You don’t have to like it, you don’t have to accept it, but facts are facts.
No. It wasn’t okay. That’s just your opinion. I’m deeply sorry that you want blackface to be okay. She was banned. She lost. If you do it you’d lose your job too. You lost. Get over it. You can keep your reality. Fact is: you lost this battle. Blackface is over. Any moron still doing it will face consequences. Deal with it
Originally Posted By LeJR⏩
so basically, there's a difference in opinion here, but you think your skin color gives you the edge in the argument and makes you right.
Yup. Your opinion means nothing when taking into account other people’s feelings. You can’t tell someone what they are and are not allowed to be offended by. I know this is hard for you to grasp so I’ll make it simple for you:

If your wife doesn’t want you to call her fat, Your opinion means nothing. Don’t argue. Stop calling her fat.

If black people don’t want you wearing black face. What YOU think means nothing. Stop doing it.

Common sense has already won. You can argue, bitch and moan all you want. It isn’t okay and NOTHING you say on this forum will change that. Get over it
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