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post 1579544841 05-06-2019, 01:09 PM
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The best part of this season is that it might motivate that fatass GRRM to finish the books and tell the story he wanted since they butchered it so bad.
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post 1579545141 05-06-2019, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
IMDB is known for their fake votes. If you look at the reviews for it, everyone rates it either a 3/10 or a 1/10. If you look at the highest rated reviews, they're all 10/10's by new accounts who only reviewed that particular episode.
The real rating is far lower.
Dude, calm down - a 1/10 or 3/10 are chitshows like Housewives of Whatever.

The harshest ratings are probably found on metacritic sites like rotten tomatoes and there the episode gets a 6.7/10 - the Long Night gets 7.4/10.
Originally Posted By Future24
The best part of this season is that it might motivate that fatass GRRM to finish the books and tell the story he wanted since they butchered it so bad.
Nah, that fat kunt is working on the prequel, because thats where the HBO money will come from. Its only one pilot episode apparently, but thats his focus together with someone from X-Men: First Class.
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post 1579545331 05-06-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext
Dude, calm down - a 1/10 or 3/10 are chitshows like Housewives of Whatever.

The harshest ratings are probably found on metacritic sites like rotten tomatoes and there the episode gets a 6.7/10 - the Long Night gets 7.4/10.
The reviews that got the most people agreeing with them are all in the 1/10 and 3/10 range. The highest review i've seen from a non bot is a 6/10.
I don't care what the actual episode's rating is worth. However the rating that it has on IMDB is heavily altered by bots rating it a perfect 10.
Take a look at it yourself:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6027914...ws?ref_=tt_urv
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post 1579545401 05-06-2019, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
LMAO!! Since when???

She pledged to commit her troops in the fight against the undead.... and reneged.

She blew up the Sept with hundreds of innocent people in it (not to mention almost the entire Tyrell family).

She sent a sellsword to assassinate BOTH of her brothers.


Honor?? Gimme a fuggin' break...
Yeah people need to stop gargling this show's nuts so hard. Cersei would've not even hesitated to kill that whole crew and end the game of thrones, just like she didn't hesitate to nuke the entire sept and multiple blocks of kings landing around it with wildfire. She doesn't give a fuk.
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post 1579545511 05-06-2019, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
The reviews that got the most people agreeing with them are all in the 1/10 and 3/10 range. The highest review i've seen from a non bot is a 6/10.
I don't care what the actual episode's rating is worth. However the rating that it has on IMDB is heavily altered by bots rating it a perfect 10.
Take a look at it yourself:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6027914...ws?ref_=tt_urv
As I said: fuk IMDB, look at rottentomatoes, there you have both registered users and paid critics and its usually a harsh but objective rating.

If you think its a 1-3 out of 10, then GOT must be the only TV show you have seen since The Wire.
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post 1579545851 05-06-2019, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By Future24
The best part of this season is that it might motivate that fatass GRRM to finish the books and tell the story he wanted since they butchered it so bad.
Most likely won't happen.

Martin wrote far too many characters and plot threads - Dorne, Young Griff, Highgarden, White Walkers etc - and he has most likely no idea how to tie them up.

He probably has an idea on the final ending, but no idea how to get there. But now he gets to pump out prequels/sequels and tease ppl and tease ppl that he can come up with a much better ending than D&D.

At the age of 71.

Yeah.
post 1579545911 05-06-2019, 01:23 PM
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I was actually reflecting back on when I first started reading ASOIAF and watched the 1st season. I remember GRRM painting a picture of just how ****ed up a place Westeros - along with the rest of the world - really is. There were so many ruthless politically savvy sociopaths vying for power that you feel almost helpless when experiencing GRRM's world through the eyes of one of his many POV characters. It's like each character was constantly walking a tightrope and any misstep could mean death. Characters like Varys and Littlefinger made you feel small, making you the reader wonder how in the hell the protagonist is going be able to outmaneuver them, or if that's even going to be possible. The early seasons of GOT did a fantastic job of bringing GRRM's vision to life.

Now when I watch GOT Seasons 7/8, I feel like I could walk into Westeros and conquer it with little effort because I'm not a complete total retard like the majority of the characters vying for power. The immersion is completely broken.
post 1579546041 05-06-2019, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
The reviews that got the most people agreeing with them are all in the 1/10 and 3/10 range. The highest review i've seen from a non bot is a 6/10.
I don't care what the actual episode's rating is worth. However the rating that it has on IMDB is heavily altered by bots rating it a perfect 10.
Take a look at it yourself:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6027914...ws?ref_=tt_urv
You think that episode was in line with a 1/10 - 3/10?

post 1579546101 05-06-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext
As I said: fuk IMDB, look at rottentomatoes, there you have both registered users and paid critics and its usually a harsh but objective rating.

If you think its a 1-3 out of 10, then GOT must be the only TV show you have seen since The Wire.
Rotten tomatoes is kinda bunk though. Something could be a consensus 6/10 but be 97% because everyone gave it a 6/10.
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post 1579546111 05-06-2019, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted By GotNext
As I said: fuk IMDB, look at rottentomatoes, there you have both registered users and paid critics and its usually a harsh but objective rating.

If you think its a 1-3 out of 10, then GOT must be the only TV show you have seen since The Wire.
No i don't think it's a 1-3 out of 10 but they definitely butchering this season imo.
I simply mentioned imdb because the person posting the rating of it, posted a picture of the imdb website rating and i wanted to make known that imdb is known for using bots to artificially make the rating higher.

And rottentomatoes aint all that either. Didn't they delete bad reviews from black panther, claiming it was racists for giving it a bad rating? lol.
Originally Posted By Jaydawg08
You think that episode was in line with a 1/10 - 3/10?
No i said those are the most agreed upon reviews on the imdb website for this episode.
Does no one know how to read anymore? Unless you're genuinely asking me.
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post 1579546201 05-06-2019, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
Do I have these right?

Spoiler!


Jamie kills Euron

Arya kills Cersei

Jon kills Danny

Hound kills Mountain

Spoiler!

So far the witch's prophecy has come true. In order to not chit on the entire series Cersi has to be killed by Tyrion or Jamie.

post 1579546571 05-06-2019, 01:33 PM
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Im pretty sure Jaimie is going to try and stop/kill Cercei. But to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if he went to save her. I mean he is all about his family and his house, the only thing that got in the way was fighting for the living, which went above any house. Now that NK is dead, it would actually be of no shock if he went back to going balls to the wall for his house.
post 1579548221 05-06-2019, 01:57 PM
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Why don’t they send the dragon to destroy the enemies ships at night with the cover of darkness
post 1579548241 05-06-2019, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor
Yeah I thought The Long Night was significantly worse

But The Long Night also killed a big part of GoT for me, and I think my newly-lowered expectations are helping me simply enjoy what's now unfolding. My investment in the series as a whole has gone waaaaaay down, so there's not much left to be upset about in terms of story, strategy, etc
100% this. Due to the killed investment into the show, I thoroughly enjoyed ep4
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post 1579548661 05-06-2019, 02:05 PM
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post 1579548791 05-06-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By EBarbz
I didn't think the episode was that bad.
I also dont think the episode/ season was atrocious like some of you phucks.
I swear you will whine about anything. Fine any little detail in something and hate on it.

I was sad to see the dragon die, but it had to be done for the final battle. Two dragons vs Cersi is just unfair. They need to make it more even.
To the whiny phuck giving us velocity and trajectory lessons from these crossbows...you do know this is a show with dragons and zombies right? Phuck off *******

I dont understand Dany and Tyrion showing at Kings Landing. Part of my wants to believe it was done to show the city that they wanted peace. And that anything that happens now is because of Cersi.
Someone whined about why didnt they shoot Tyrion and Dany while they were standing there? Has that ever happend? There is always a meeting prior. And then a war. No one ever shoots up the group before the war. Even Cersi has honor.

Sansa spilling the beans to Tyrion is a LittleFinger move. She doesnt like Dany. Dont see why people are whining about this.

Im interestred to see what happens to Jamie. Will he die from Cersi, or kill her himself.

I dont know if we have seen the last of the night king and whitewalker story. Im guessing episode 6, we will get a little more. (This will lead to a spinoff)


Episode 5 is going to be the best episode of the season. Its like this with every season of GoT. The second to last episode is always the best. Emilia even confirmed it on Jimmy Kimmel. Dany, has the north, the iron fleet, drone and whats left of her army to fight Cersi. Along with a dragon.
Agree with most of that except it being the done thing before war. That is what separated GoT from other TV shows. Cersei should have ended the war there and then. Or at least stuck Tyrion with arrows who has now become useless.
Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
Why did dany even bring melissandei with her? She doesn't need a translator anymore. Have her sit in winterfell safe with sansa.
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This. Can anyone think of a legit reason of why she’d bring her with?
Originally Posted By GotNext
To motivate Greyworm as his personal prostate masseuse? I think its established that Melissandei is Dany's BFF, so she doesn't just have a function as translator, but is her confidant/friend. Last time I checked she doesn't have many of those left, actually none.
I mean, you have to question the mental capacities of people who will question this (gymbro and Nuk). Makes you wonder about the mentality of all the constant whingers on here. Obviously she's more than just a translator to Dany, which would be apparent if you weren't autism.
post 1579548801 05-06-2019, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By nn586
Why don’t they send the dragon to destroy the enemies ships at night with the cover of darkness
Because logic no longer exists.
post 1579548851 05-06-2019, 02:09 PM
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[QUOTE=nn586;1579548221]Why don’t they send the dragon to destroy the enemies ships at night with the cover of darkness[/QUOTE

That would make too much sense.
post 1579548891 05-06-2019, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian
Eh, even I'm going to jump on the 'show is chit' bandwagon at this rate. Bronn was one of my favorite characters and he just...simply believes that someone who isn't the ruler can promise that he will become Lord of Highgarden? He was never that stupid, and it is out of character, big time.
As opposed to him being stupid enough to believe Cersei's claim that she'll give him River Run?
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
Because logic no longer exists.
^They don't spell this out for you in the show, but these are the worst dragons in the world and Daenerys has no idea what she's doing.
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Originally Posted By bartosh
100% this. Due to the killed investment into the show, I thoroughly enjoyed ep4
Same here. I am just rewatching the series. I'm ready for it to start turning late season 4, but in the meantime I am enjoying season 2 right now.
post 1579549101 05-06-2019, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
As opposed to him being stupid enough to believe Cersei's claim that she'll give him River Run?
That one is atleast slightly more believable than Tyrion and Jaime promising Highgarden. Assuming Dany wins, there is zero reason to believe she would just go along with that.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
That one is atleast slightly more believable than Tyrion and Jaime promising Highgarden. Assuming Dany wins, there is zero reason to believe she would just go along with that.
Why not? She just wants the Iron Throne. Why would she care who gets Highgarden?

And it's not like it's Sam and Gilly making these promises.... Tyrion and Jaime have some pull.
post 1579549501 05-06-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
Why not? She just wants the Iron Throne. Why would she care who gets Highgarden?

And it's not like it's Sam and Gilly making these promises.... Tyrion and Jaime have some pull.
Because Cersei doesn't give a fuk. Dany is going to want to install allies in the big castles. There is 0% chance she is just going to give fukkin Highgarden to some random cutthroat she doesn’t know just because Tyrion said so (Jaime has 0 pull). It’s not like she’s been listening to him very much lately.
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Originally Posted By Brad_Pitt
I think he gave them plot points and they are wrecking the rest by themselves.
This. He's literally contractually obligated to give them that information.

They're just choosing to do their own thing. GRRM has already said he would prefer if they did the show his way and that if it were up to him, the show would be 10+ seasons.
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post 1579550401 05-06-2019, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By BostonRockets
They're just choosing to do their own thing. GRRM has already said he would prefer if they did the show his way and that if it were up to him, the show would be 10+ seasons.
If it was up to D&D, maybe they would also make 10+ seasons, but it's not.

HBO orders the seasons - HBO doesn't want to spend the money, HBO asked them to wrap it up in a shortened season. That's it.
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Just googled GRRM and this came up lolhttps://www.express.co.uk/entertainm...ron-Throne-die

Seems like he's very disappointed with the way things turned out.

edit: This is from his own blog
Oh, and speaking of television, don’t believe everything you read. Internet reports are notoriously unreliable. We have had five different GAME OF THRONES successor shows in development (I mislike the term “spinoffs”) at HBO, and three of them are still moving forward nicely.The one I am not supposed to call THE LONG NIGHT will be shooting later this year,and two other shows remain in the script stage, but are edging closer. What are they about? I cannot say. But maybe some of you should pick up a copy of FIRE & BLOOD and come up with your own theories.
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Originally Posted By ohiostate124
That one is atleast slightly more believable than Tyrion and Jaime promising Highgarden. Assuming Dany wins, there is zero reason to believe she would just go along with that.
To be fair, you're talking about the person who made Gendry - a blacksmith - Lord of Storm's End despite having never met him and knowing nothing about him, before turning to Tyrion and going "see? You're not the only one who's smart". She did this to ensure his loyalty like that was one of the keys to maintaining power lol. She made it fit due to the fact that he is Robert's bastard, a fact that nobody in Storm's End even knows and despite the fact that she doesn't even know if there already is a Lord of Storm's End.

So her allowing Bronn to be Lord of Highgarden because Tyrion promised it to him so that he didn't murder him might be plausible...
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Originally Posted By nvrstopworking
Why not? She just wants the Iron Throne. Why would she care who gets Highgarden?

And it's not like it's Sam and Gilly making these promises.... Tyrion and Jaime have some pull.
Highgarden is the seat of the Lord Paramount of the Reach and the Warden of the South, although I think that those titles will go to Horn Hill and Sam after all this is said and done though.

You still wouldn't want an illiterate mercenary like Bronn in that position. Here's what Tyrion and Jaime would have done in previous seasons:

1. Order the guards to apprehend Bronn once he left the building.
2. Kill Bronn.
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