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post 1581118261 05-30-2019, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
Great show. A bit irked that they had to make up the female scientist who saves the day. Almost everyone else was a real person, including the firefighter with the pregnant wife and Legasov who was the real life hero here (not to mention the 3 volunteers who saved millions) but the woman scientist only exists in the show.
They explained her in the podcast.. She's a representation of the hundreds of scientists who were working on it.
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
Shows good for sure. It’s not even Russia worst nuclear disaster really.

1957 they poisoned a bunch of water ways and lakes. They stored radioactive material underground and it exploded. The lakes to this day if you stand by it your dead in an hr.

That's the longest TV ad I've ever watched.
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
Shows good for sure. It’s not even Russia worst nuclear disaster really.

1957 they poisoned a bunch of water ways and lakes. They stored radioactive material underground and it exploded. The lakes to this day if you stand by it your dead in an hr.
these idiots, the incompetence is unbelievable
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
Shows good for sure. It’s not even Russia worst nuclear disaster really.

1957 they poisoned a bunch of water ways and lakes. They stored radioactive material underground and it exploded. The lakes to this day if you stand by it your dead in an hr.

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Originally Posted By adigiro1⏩
these idiots, the incompetence is unbelievable
it's not really incompetence, they just don't care and people are expendable.
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
it's not really incompetence, they just don't care and people are expendable.
There was incompetence involved in Chernobyl, so there was incompetence 30 years earlier that was probably much worse.
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Originally Posted By EoR⏩
That's the longest TV ad I've ever watched.
Sorry brah I’m on prime I don’t see any ads. How long was it? Lol
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Originally Posted By Bushmaster⏩
They explained her in the podcast.. She's a representation of the hundreds of scientists who were working on it.
That's the irksome part.
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Originally Posted By StinnerOzz⏩
That's the irksome part.
Well what did you want? They can't possibly show 100 scientists working together in a mini series like this. Makes perfect sense to not waste time and resources in trivial things.
I do agree that they chose a woman because feminism though. I doubt the Soviets would listen to a female back then.
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
Shows good for sure. It’s not even Russia worst nuclear disaster really.

1957 they poisoned a bunch of water ways and lakes. They stored radioactive material underground and it exploded. The lakes to this day if you stand by it ur dead in an hr.

I was reading about the Kyshtym disaster yesterday, hol-e chit... the effects of that are so widespread yet the Soviets kept it under tight control.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
There was incompetence involved in Chernobyl, so there was incompetence 30 years earlier that was probably much worse.
I'm not disagreeing, but when you see why decisions were made and procedures were run like they were and how the rest of the world found out, it's not all incompetence. Everything was for the motherhood. Lives and people be damned.
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Originally Posted By achtungpanzer⏩
I was reading about the Kyshtym disaster yesterday, hol-e chit... the effects of that are so widespread yet the Soviets kept it under tight control.
They kept all of their **** ups under tight control. It was the cold war. They had to seem like nothing went wrong.
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
Great show. A bit irked that they had to make up the female scientist who saves the day. Almost everyone else was a real person, including the firefighter with the pregnant wife and Legasov who was the real life hero here (not to mention the 3 volunteers who saved millions) but the woman scientist only exists in the show.
In the review at the end of one of the episodes they explained that the female scientist was not real but represented many scientific minds efforts that where at work together coming to a solution and understanding of the problem + potential consequences.
I guess it would have been too much detail and characters involved so they just wrapped it all up into one fictional character.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Well what did you want? They can't possibly show 100 scientists working together in a mini series like this. Makes perfect sense to not waste time and resources in trivial things.
I do agree that they chose a woman because feminism though. I doubt the Soviets would listen to a female back then.
In the after show they talk about how Russia was more progressive about women in those kinds of roles then US at the time.

Something like 40% of stem PhD went to women in the 1960’s. USA was 5%
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
I'm not disagreeing, but when you see why decisions were made and procedures were run like they were and how the rest of the world found out, it's not all incompetence. Everything was for the motherhood. Lives and people be damned.
I can agree with that. Chernobyl has a lot of that, too.
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Originally Posted By Lunatic⏩
I can agree with that. Chernobyl has a lot of that, too.
Schedule pressure and nationalism can be a hell of a push to continue down the stupid path.

And so can the KGB.
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Originally Posted By eltoro24⏩
In the after show they talk about how Russia was more progressive about women in those kinds of roles then US at the time.

Something like 40% of stem PhD went to women in the 1960’s. USA was 5%
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Schedule pressure and nationalism can be a hell of a push to continue down the stupid path.

And so can the KGB.
Yeah, the USSR was ****ed on so many levels.
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I thought they did an alright job with this miniseries until they got to the bit where they were knocking off all the animals. To me this was nothing more than westernised propaganda to suit the agendas of today.

30 years ago next to nobody anywhere gave a **** about animal welfare least of all the ruskies.

This part of the series was pure propaganda aimed at us today! It does make me wonder about parts of the rest of the doco but I enjoyed it non the less.

They just went far to blatant and over the top with it for me.
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Originally Posted By Skylinerd1⏩
I thought they did an alright job with this miniseries until they got to the bit where they were knocking off all the animals. To me this was nothing more than westernised propaganda to suit the agendas of today.

30 years ago next to nobody anywhere gave a **** about animal welfare least of all the ruskies.

This part of the series was pure propaganda aimed at us today! It does make me wonder about parts of the rest of the doco but I enjoyed it non the less.

They just went far to blatant and over the top with it for me.
care to elaborate?

because they weren't killing the dogs to help them out of their misery but to stop spreading contamination lol

or do you mean the part where Bacho tells Pavel not to make them suffer?
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Bacho isn't a bad leader. When you connect his story from Afghanistan with telling Pavel to leave the room, Bacho looked after him.
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Well what did you want? They can't possibly show 100 scientists working together in a mini series like this. Makes perfect sense to not waste time and resources in trivial things.
I do agree that they chose a woman because feminism though. I doubt the Soviets would listen to a female back then.
I was just pointing it out, it didn't really bother me. It bothered the guy who posted about it in the first place.
I'm sure they could have made a fine depiction of "lots of people" being involved though.
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Just watched ep 4. Holee fuk.

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Was going to download it until I read the tweets by the writer that the subtext of the show is that the Orange man is just like Hitler.
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Originally Posted By Halfway⏩
Was going to download it until I read the tweets by the writer that the subtext of the show is that the Orange man is just like Hitler.
Just looked up his twitter. Lots of cope. He’s trying to say Trump is exactly the same as the Soviet Union which is laughable. Totally ignores that Trump’s platform is based on deregulation and tax cuts and just claims “both wrap themselves in red.” Lolwut?

The show is really good though. It’s just ironic that the writer is a liberal pointing out the flaws of communism and then attempting to distance himself from those same flaws on Twitter by claiming they’re more in line with conservatism than liberal progressivism. It’s laughable.
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Firing up episode one on my HBO amazon free trial. Here we go. Hopefully I don't science too hard.
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i hope the final will be good and boris will go alpha mode.
so far good mini-series. first 2 episodes were 9/10, 3rd was 7/10, and 4th 9/10.
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I thought ep4 sucked compared to the previous ones. Just lol at the sobbing about shooting contaminated animals while there are people literally decomposing.

I hope they end it well, but can't see how they can wrap it up properly in ~65min.

Map of fallout and what it did to most of Europe:

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Originally Posted By 3maj⏩
I thought ep4 sucked compared to the previous ones. Just lol at the sobbing about shooting contaminated animals while there are people literally decomposing.

I hope they end it well, but can't see how they can wrap it up properly in ~65min.

Map of fallout and what it did to most of Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYtGf2iVPXc
To show that kids emotional state was a good pov on what everyone had to go through. Not everyone is a hard azz. Don't assume he even knew of what the was happening. Ok, he knew of a nuclear event but the extent not so much. The USSR wasn't exactly doling out information on the explosion and the results and health effects of it.

Pretty good series I must say. The arrogance of the state and wanting to be at the forefront of technology really doomed them from the start. You could see it throughout the show but.

Spoiler!
it really came to a head when Ulana Khomyuk found that 2 pages were ripped out of that study and confronted Legasov confirmed he knew what was in there.


Nice fallout map.
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Pretty spot on accuracy for the most part. Other than them taking fire fighters back to Moscow and the dude killing his unborn child. Once they clean a victim off, you're not going to "spread" radiation sickness.
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Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
Pretty spot on accuracy for the most part. Other than them taking fire fighters back to Moscow and the dude killing his unborn child. Once they clean a victim off, you're not going to "spread" radiation sickness.
“People who are internally contaminated can expose people near them to radiation from the radioactive material inside their bodies. The body fluids (blood, sweat, urine) of an internally contaminated person can contain radioactive materials. Coming in contact with these body fluids can result in contamination and/or exposure.”

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