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computer science, nursing, or engineering, only ones i can think of that would be good all around.
i started college this semester in goals of getting a computer science degree, but i think I might go the engineering route.
i started college this semester in goals of getting a computer science degree, but i think I might go the engineering route.
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$130k avg starting salary, <1% unemployment, work an average of 4 days a week
If you're talking undergrad, a B.S. in Computer Science or some form of engineering
$130k avg starting salary, <1% unemployment, work an average of 4 days a week
If you're talking undergrad, a B.S. in Computer Science or some form of engineering
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06-09-2019, 04:13 PM
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Most degrees aren't very good on their own these days.
Any social work/psychology/counseling degrees pretty much require a masters in that same degree to get a job and eve then the pay often isn't what you would want. Whats worse is to get a license after your masters you have to put in hundreds of hours of field work + work under someone else for awhile and have them sign off before you can finally take your test. Its way too much work for what you get IMO.
Business degrees also wont' get you far. Maybe entry level lower level management position at walmart or something.
If you want to help people and get a solid job with a 4 year degree thing RN and nursing. Then if you go back for more training you can then make some nice money.
Any social work/psychology/counseling degrees pretty much require a masters in that same degree to get a job and eve then the pay often isn't what you would want. Whats worse is to get a license after your masters you have to put in hundreds of hours of field work + work under someone else for awhile and have them sign off before you can finally take your test. Its way too much work for what you get IMO.
Business degrees also wont' get you far. Maybe entry level lower level management position at walmart or something.
If you want to help people and get a solid job with a 4 year degree thing RN and nursing. Then if you go back for more training you can then make some nice money.
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OP if you're interested in helping people as you stated, you might consider a degree like mine. I have a BA in Special Education.
Like someone stated above, you'll need a masters to get a job as a counselor or social worker most likely, but not as a teacher or SPED teacher. And it's certainly helping people by definition.
Like someone stated above, you'll need a masters to get a job as a counselor or social worker most likely, but not as a teacher or SPED teacher. And it's certainly helping people by definition.
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
I would hold off on going back to school until you have some actual plan. It seems like you're in a spot where you could end up just getting a degree for no reason and potentially taking on debt with no plan of action. What job do you want? You are aiming for the degree rather than the job. Think about what you want to do. You can make money doing many things, but you cannot gain back the years spent wasting away at a job you feel stuck in simply because it aligns with a degree you got randomly. The world does need more people who are helping others and if that's what you feel drawn too you may be doing yourself and others a disservice by running from your talents and passions.Title is kinda stupid but I wasn’t sure where this thread was going^^
I am going back to college to get a degree. I told my advisor I wanted to one in Business Administration with a marketing concentration.
Honestly, I always thought I’d get a “helping degree” like maybe end up being a counselor or something. I see people with these degrees struggling and I hate to say it but I want a degree so that I can be financially stable.
I’m kind of torn as I don’t even know what career I’d want with a business admin degree.
This thread doesn’t really have a single question or specific topic- just hoping for input or advice, or personal stories.
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PS- maybe there’s even a different degree I haven’t looked at or something.
I am going back to college to get a degree. I told my advisor I wanted to one in Business Administration with a marketing concentration.
Honestly, I always thought I’d get a “helping degree” like maybe end up being a counselor or something. I see people with these degrees struggling and I hate to say it but I want a degree so that I can be financially stable.
I’m kind of torn as I don’t even know what career I’d want with a business admin degree.
This thread doesn’t really have a single question or specific topic- just hoping for input or advice, or personal stories.
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PS- maybe there’s even a different degree I haven’t looked at or something.
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If you're totally lost and just need something that isn't super difficult to pay the bills...consider ultrasound tech/sonography. I believe some jobs can be obtained with an associates and they can pay $60-90k depending on location
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My last job was working in an office. The actual owner of the company did labor so I took care of all the admin work that comes with running a company. I did that for around two years but the company wasn’t growing. My boss had a degree from Wharton and to him that trumped any ideas coming from anywhere else besides him. It was frustrating to watch especially for me since I worked in the office and could see clearly what needed to be changed in order to run. One thing I did want to start doing was project management on the jobs that were getting done and if I were to narrow my goals down then maybe that is what I would want to do. I could maybe even be self employed that way and then do project management for companies that just wanted to hire me for specific jobs.
There are not many things to do without having a degree. Companies like seeing that you were able to commit to something and complete it. So even if the degree is just to have a degree it still represents something to companies seeking out employees.
I am not too old for anything- that is a horrible mentality. You don’t just hit a certain age and then stop making goals for yourself, or progressing in life. I could have 70 years left to live, that is a long time of life left.
There are not many things to do without having a degree. Companies like seeing that you were able to commit to something and complete it. So even if the degree is just to have a degree it still represents something to companies seeking out employees.
I am not too old for anything- that is a horrible mentality. You don’t just hit a certain age and then stop making goals for yourself, or progressing in life. I could have 70 years left to live, that is a long time of life left.
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
Don't know where you live but over here, BSN is the best bang for your buck IMO for degrees. 4 years with some relatively tough classes but man they make bank for their education level.My last job was working in an office. The actual owner of the company did labor so I took care of all the admin work that comes with running a company. I did that for around two years but the company wasn’t growing. My boss had a degree from Wharton and to him that trumped any ideas coming from anywhere else besides him. It was frustrating to watch especially for me since I worked in the office and could see clearly what needed to be changed in order to run. One thing I did want to start doing was project management on the jobs that were getting done and if I were to narrow my goals down then maybe that is what I would want to do. I could maybe even be self employed that way and then do project management for companies that just wanted to hire me for specific jobs.
There are not many things to do without having a degree. Companies like seeing that you were able to commit to something and complete it. So even if the degree is just to have a degree it still represents something to companies seeking out employees.
I am not too old for anything- that is a horrible mentality. You don’t just hit a certain age and then stop making goals for yourself, or progressing in life. I could have 70 years left to live, that is a long time of life left.
There are not many things to do without having a degree. Companies like seeing that you were able to commit to something and complete it. So even if the degree is just to have a degree it still represents something to companies seeking out employees.
I am not too old for anything- that is a horrible mentality. You don’t just hit a certain age and then stop making goals for yourself, or progressing in life. I could have 70 years left to live, that is a long time of life left.
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Originally Posted By severagee⏩
strong cope,Doctor of Dental Medicine
$130k avg starting salary, <1% unemployment, work an average of 4 days a week
If you're talking undergrad, a B.S. in Computer Science or some form of engineering
$130k avg starting salary, <1% unemployment, work an average of 4 days a week
If you're talking undergrad, a B.S. in Computer Science or some form of engineering
Dentists are just wannabe doctors. Brb 8 years of school only for 130k avg.... pretty sure software engineers coming out of a top school make more first year.
in all seriousness, im kidding, if thats what you like to do, then more power to you. And I would echo the comp sci or engineering comment.
Get a degree where you actually learn a technical skill such as programming. Dont go to school to learn about the history of marketing, the psychology behind it, or the theory surrounding it. Go learn application of such knowledge.
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I will give you a level-headed response:
Computer Science or Mathematics.
Computer Science: Good BSc but don't do it unless you like it and see yourself doing it.
The problem with Maths is that it is too broad and you will have trouble narrowing down what path you wanna go on as there are many:
-- can still go into software
-- actuary
-- audit, IB, etc.
Since the only thing you mentioned is people and helping then I think something healthcare is probably a great option. Given your age and the cost of US medical schools, I am going to assume that medical school is out of the equation and dental school as well. Then you can explore other stuff like Physician Assistant and Nursing. I have ton of American friends who are nurses and are doing fine.
You can do Psychology and go into counselling but I don't really believe in Psychology (versus Psychiatry, which is a doctor speciality).
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Computer Science or Mathematics.
Computer Science: Good BSc but don't do it unless you like it and see yourself doing it.
The problem with Maths is that it is too broad and you will have trouble narrowing down what path you wanna go on as there are many:
-- can still go into software
-- actuary
-- audit, IB, etc.
Since the only thing you mentioned is people and helping then I think something healthcare is probably a great option. Given your age and the cost of US medical schools, I am going to assume that medical school is out of the equation and dental school as well. Then you can explore other stuff like Physician Assistant and Nursing. I have ton of American friends who are nurses and are doing fine.
You can do Psychology and go into counselling but I don't really believe in Psychology (versus Psychiatry, which is a doctor speciality).
Adrenaline junkie more active work: Paramedic - This might be more a UK-based answer as there are a lot of cool paramedic positions here such as Air Ambulance.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Psychology a common undergraduate degree for psychiatrists.I will give you a level-headed response:
Computer Science or Mathematics.
Computer Science: Good BSc but don't do it unless you like it and see yourself doing it.
The problem with Maths is that it is too broad and you will have trouble narrowing down what path you wanna go on as there are many:
-- can still go into software
-- actuary
-- audit, IB, etc.
Since the only thing you mentioned is people and helping then I think something healthcare is probably a great option. Given your age and the cost of US medical schools, I am going to assume that medical school is out of the equation and dental school as well. Then you can explore other stuff like Physician Assistant and Nursing. I have ton of American friends who are nurses and are doing fine.
You can do Psychology and go into counselling but I don't really believe in Psychology (versus Psychiatry, which is a doctor speciality).
Adrenaline junkie more active work: Paramedic - This might be more a UK-based answer as there are a lot of cool paramedic positions here such as Air Ambulance.
Computer Science or Mathematics.
Computer Science: Good BSc but don't do it unless you like it and see yourself doing it.
The problem with Maths is that it is too broad and you will have trouble narrowing down what path you wanna go on as there are many:
-- can still go into software
-- actuary
-- audit, IB, etc.
Since the only thing you mentioned is people and helping then I think something healthcare is probably a great option. Given your age and the cost of US medical schools, I am going to assume that medical school is out of the equation and dental school as well. Then you can explore other stuff like Physician Assistant and Nursing. I have ton of American friends who are nurses and are doing fine.
You can do Psychology and go into counselling but I don't really believe in Psychology (versus Psychiatry, which is a doctor speciality).
Adrenaline junkie more active work: Paramedic - This might be more a UK-based answer as there are a lot of cool paramedic positions here such as Air Ambulance.
I wouldn't recommend compsci to just anyone...the level of mathematics is gonna make most people tap out.
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What about Business Admin with a project management conc?
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
But getting into medical school in the US is hard and Psychology is not a good degree to fall back on.Psychology a common undergraduate degree for psychiatrists.
And IDK psychiatry is based on evidence-based medicine psychology is purely theoretical.
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If the objective is to get a job and make money, then you should look at the highest paying jobs in demand. Most are STEM and healthcare majors. If you don't like sick people, you should do a hard science/engineering degree. If you're not smart enough to succeed in something like engineering, then you should consider healthcare. Nursing school is pretty easy and good bang for the buck. If that's too easy and you want almost guaranteed baller status, then an MD is the way to go. Pretty easy for an average MD student to match into a field making $400k a year or more, if that's what you like.
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Just get the degree that is going to allow you to get the job you want. If you like it, you gonna work your ass off and be good at it, and if you are good at it, you gonna have the opportunities to be financial stable.
But if you want a real tip... the best jobs are the jobs that give you the opportunity to establish your own price and consequently, your salary.
Jobs with fixed salaries are the worst.
But if you want a real tip... the best jobs are the jobs that give you the opportunity to establish your own price and consequently, your salary.
Jobs with fixed salaries are the worst.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Undergraduate degree has nothing to do with what medical specialty you go into. If undergraduate psychology majors are overrepresented amongst psychiatrists, it's only because of an interest in the subject of mental health, not because it helps you become a psychiatrist.Psychology a common undergraduate degree for psychiatrists.
I wouldn't recommend compsci to just anyone...the level of mathematics is gonna make most people tap out.
I wouldn't recommend compsci to just anyone...the level of mathematics is gonna make most people tap out.
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Honestly the fact you don't know means there is no good answer for you right now, do some real research and soul searching before committing to something. Happiness in life is finding a career that balances making you want to kill yourself and earning an income. It's not all about money, as there are plenty of jobs that pay, say 2x more than others, but if you hate that job 3x more, it's not worth it. Salary, benefits, how much to do hate the daily tasks of the job, tolls on or benefits to your health, work/life balance, these are all important aspects that should be considered when choosing what career is best FOR YOU, not THE BEST.
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I can't help you with degree choice, but ill give sum unsolicited advice on learning:
Experience is the main thing you're looking for. Education solidifies any weak spots you have in your experience. So, instead of going to school first, get experience in the field that you are interested in. And then go to school.
Education in college is mostly through textbooks nowadays. But textbooks can be one of the worst ways to learn because it uses less bodily senses. And most of the damn time, we don't even comprehend what we read, BB. By getting hands on and taking action, you'll have more insights than what reading can offer.
Men are paid more because of this sole reason - experience. Because men have more testosterone, they're more likely to take action, and in doing so, they learn a lot more than women.
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Experience is the main thing you're looking for. Education solidifies any weak spots you have in your experience. So, instead of going to school first, get experience in the field that you are interested in. And then go to school.
Education in college is mostly through textbooks nowadays. But textbooks can be one of the worst ways to learn because it uses less bodily senses. And most of the damn time, we don't even comprehend what we read, BB. By getting hands on and taking action, you'll have more insights than what reading can offer.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Honestly from what I've read from various pre-med sources, having a psych degree would in no way harm your prospects for med school. There's even history major matriculants in med school.But getting into medical school in the US is hard and Psychology is not a good degree to fall back on.
And IDK psychiatry is based on evidence-based medicine psychology is purely theoretical.
And IDK psychiatry is based on evidence-based medicine psychology is purely theoretical.
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Sure, I'm just saying it's a logical and common step towards psychiatry when he expressed skepticism towards the former.Undergraduate degree has nothing to do with what medical specialty you go into. If undergraduate psychology majors are overrepresented amongst psychiatrists, it's only because of an interest in the subject of mental health, not because it helps you become a psychiatrist.
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You aren't smart enough to get any of the best degrees.
I'm not being mean, I'm just being realistic.
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-you've been out of school since you were 13. you haven't "studied", crammed for a test, taken notes, etc. in 2 decades. you prolly think the periodic table is something related to menstruation and that there are only two genders.I am not too old for anything- that is a horrible mentality. You don’t just hit a certain age and then stop making goals for yourself, or progressing in life. I could have 70 years left to live, that is a long time of life left.
-you have other srs obligations besides school (kids) as well as bills to pay.
-you don't even know what you want to study.
-you're going to stop working full-time and prolly take on a huge loan.
why the fukk do you want to go to college? lol. it's over-rated and in the US especially, it's a way to keep the masses indebted and subdued. unless, you're sure you'll get a lucrative job soon after graduation, postsecondary education is a huge gamble.
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Originally Posted By xXGHOST23Xx⏩
And unlike "real" doctors, dentists don't have to complete residency. Graduate from dental school, you're done! Join a practice, start with $130k salary working 32 hours a week, advance from there. Or you can specialize, even doing oral and maxillofacial surgery if you want, which was rated the best surgical subspecialty by every site I looked at.strong cope,
Dentists are just wannabe doctors. Brb 8 years of school only for 130k avg.... pretty sure software engineers coming out of a top school make more first year.
in all seriousness, im kidding, if thats what you like to do, then more power to you. And I would echo the comp sci or engineering comment.
Get a degree where you actually learn a technical skill such as programming. Dont go to school to learn about the history of marketing, the psychology behind it, or the theory surrounding it. Go learn application of such knowledge.
Dentists are just wannabe doctors. Brb 8 years of school only for 130k avg.... pretty sure software engineers coming out of a top school make more first year.
in all seriousness, im kidding, if thats what you like to do, then more power to you. And I would echo the comp sci or engineering comment.
Get a degree where you actually learn a technical skill such as programming. Dont go to school to learn about the history of marketing, the psychology behind it, or the theory surrounding it. Go learn application of such knowledge.
Medical doctors, well, after medical school they have a MINIMUM 3 year residency before they can independently practice. During that residency, they're working 80 hours a week making $50k a year. Then, after residency is over, they work an average of 60 hours a week, nearly double what the average dentist works. Only to not earn that much more excluding a few extremely competitive specialties. In fact, the average dentist makes more per hour than the average doctor.
Dentistry was rated the number one profession in the world by US News in 2016 for a reason.
And yea, if you're purely focused on finances, I'd agree that computer science and software development are better. Cause that's four fewer years of school compared to dentistry, and a couple hundred grand less debt. I should know, my B.S. is in CS, but I decided to go to dental school because software development bored me.
I still stand with my original answer, dentistry or comp sci or engineering of some kind. You're gonna do fine financially in all of them. Depends on what you want in terms of actual work responsibilities and work/life balance.
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Originally Posted By 3basic5me⏩
I should have clarified that I did go to college since I dropped out at 13, I also had to get my GED at 16. So I’ve taken tests since junior high.-you've been out of school since you were 13. you haven't "studied", crammed for a test, taken notes, etc. in 2 decades. you prolly think the periodic table is something related to menstruation and that there are only two genders.
-you have other srs obligations besides school (kids) as well as bills to pay.
-you don't even know what you want to study.
-you're going to stop working full-time and prolly take on a huge loan.
why the fukk do you want to go to college? lol. it's over-rated and in the US especially, it's a way to keep the masses indebted and subdued. unless, you're sure you'll get a lucrative job soon after graduation, postsecondary education is a huge gamble.
-you have other srs obligations besides school (kids) as well as bills to pay.
-you don't even know what you want to study.
-you're going to stop working full-time and prolly take on a huge loan.
why the fukk do you want to go to college? lol. it's over-rated and in the US especially, it's a way to keep the masses indebted and subdued. unless, you're sure you'll get a lucrative job soon after graduation, postsecondary education is a huge gamble.
I know what the periodic table is. I know quite a bit actually.
Before anyone thinks it’s funny that my last grade completed was 8th, I actually had to drop out. I was getting abused at home and had to move out and work to survive.
I have a few ideas of what I want to do. They just conflict with each other.
I didn’t create a world where you need a degree to succeed in life. I don’t actually agree with it but that is how it is, unless you somehow have a talent or skill that earns you great money.
I have neither.
My kids are why I am doing this- I want better for them and I want better for myself. I don’t want to keep working crap jobs struggling to pay for ****.
I will tell you how it is to be a single mother and why I came to this decision. I was working 40 hours a week, tired as **** because I was working third shift and then taking care of my kids after. I have worked non stop for most of my life and do you know how much it sucks to work that hard and still not make enough money to pay for just the basic necessities. I’ll tell you what happens next- you can try to get help from the state but if you work and make money you’ll get nothing. I did not qualify for **** because in the eyes of the government I make enough money to support a family-it’s simply not true. Financially- id be better off working part time and then collecting all I could from the state. But what would that get me? Probably nothing since that’s still just enough to survive. A degree will open a lot of doors where I can make way more than what I could make now(that’s practically a guarantee, no matter what)
I find it hard to believe that half the miscers replying to threads have any life experience. They’re either pampered and have had it easy or are too young to understand how things really work.
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Originally Posted By MichelleLnne⏩
**** happens Michelle.. your best bet is to find a sucker who will take you in and support you. there are plenty out there, just be able to dance on their cawk right- may the force be with UI should have clarified that I did go to college since I dropped out at 13, I also had to get my GED at 16. So I’ve taken tests since junior high.
I know what the periodic table is. I know quite a bit actually.
Before anyone thinks it’s funny that my last grade completed was 8th, I actually had to drop out. I was getting abused at home and had to move out and work to survive.
I have a few ideas of what I want to do. They just conflict with each other.
I didn’t create a world where you need a degree to succeed in life. I don’t actually agree with it but that is how it is, unless you somehow have a talent or skill that earns you great money.
I have neither.
My kids are why I am doing this- I want better for them and I want better for myself. I don’t want to keep working crap jobs struggling to pay for ****.
I will tell you how it is to be a single mother and why I came to this decision. I was working 40 hours a week, tired as **** because I was working third shift and then taking care of my kids after. I have worked non stop for most of my life and do you know how much it sucks to work that hard and still not make enough money to pay for just the basic necessities. I’ll tell you what happens next- you can try to get help from the state but if you work and make money you’ll get nothing. I did not qualify for **** because in the eyes of the government I make enough money to support a family-it’s simply not true. Financially- id be better off working part time and then collecting all I could from the state. But what would that get me? Probably nothing since that’s still just enough to survive. A degree will open a lot of doors where I can make way more than what I could make now(that’s practically a guarantee, no matter what)
I find it hard to believe that half the miscers replying to threads have any life experience. They’re either pampered and have had it easy or are too young to understand how things really work.
I know what the periodic table is. I know quite a bit actually.
Before anyone thinks it’s funny that my last grade completed was 8th, I actually had to drop out. I was getting abused at home and had to move out and work to survive.
I have a few ideas of what I want to do. They just conflict with each other.
I didn’t create a world where you need a degree to succeed in life. I don’t actually agree with it but that is how it is, unless you somehow have a talent or skill that earns you great money.
I have neither.
My kids are why I am doing this- I want better for them and I want better for myself. I don’t want to keep working crap jobs struggling to pay for ****.
I will tell you how it is to be a single mother and why I came to this decision. I was working 40 hours a week, tired as **** because I was working third shift and then taking care of my kids after. I have worked non stop for most of my life and do you know how much it sucks to work that hard and still not make enough money to pay for just the basic necessities. I’ll tell you what happens next- you can try to get help from the state but if you work and make money you’ll get nothing. I did not qualify for **** because in the eyes of the government I make enough money to support a family-it’s simply not true. Financially- id be better off working part time and then collecting all I could from the state. But what would that get me? Probably nothing since that’s still just enough to survive. A degree will open a lot of doors where I can make way more than what I could make now(that’s practically a guarantee, no matter what)
I find it hard to believe that half the miscers replying to threads have any life experience. They’re either pampered and have had it easy or are too young to understand how things really work.
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