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post 1583241831 07-03-2019, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By arkansawboy
people in the comments keep saying for "retention", like once the knife-dude got too close the officer purposefully holstered his weapon so the knife-dude couldn't turn into gun-dude.

not sure why he didn't just shoot him before he got too close.
that situation got way too close to being deadly for one of the officers.
Because the majority of police officer's are really hesitant to shoot/kill a person. You can tell by about 25 seconds into the video they didn't want any part of that situation. At 45 seconds they should have been planting their feet and taking the slack out the trigger. At 50 seconds in they should have put him down without moving from their original position.



Begging and pleading with someone that wants to die or wants to kill you in attempt to change the outcome elevates the risk to yourself drastically. The majority of time when a cop gets hurt/killed its because he was too soft and/or hesitated to act.


Furthermore if that guy would have turned and ran from them and just started stabbing some random person so they'd be forced to kill him. The death of that innocent person would be on them for being hesitant to do their job. The only reason the guy who got taken hostage wasn't killed was just dumb luck.



They are lucky it ended the way it did.
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Originally Posted By RaibeartBruis
Why didn't they try tasing him first?

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Stupid ****s should have put him down long ago. This is what happens when cops are afraid to do the job and/or defend themselves. If the guy was black they would have gone for a damn jog together before shooting him.
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Originally Posted By arkansawboy
people in the comments keep saying for "retention", like once the knife-dude got too close the officer purposefully holstered his weapon so the knife-dude couldn't turn into gun-dude.

not sure why he didn't just shoot him before he got too close.
that situation got way too close to being deadly for one of the officers.
contrary to popular belief in 2019, most cops dont wanna kill someone, the first time he fired, the guy dropped the knife and the cop kicked it away. The cop holstered his weapon when he ran at him, to use less than lethal means because he didnt wanna kill the guy which was apparent

also the guy got pelted with 9mm and was still able to come at them, u really think a taser is gonna do anything?





but in all honestly they should use their cruisers for knife scenarios

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post 1583243411 07-03-2019, 03:39 PM
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Good job cop brahs...another sh!tems off the streets. I'm tired of people sh!tting on cops when this is the type of thing they deal with.

Police state...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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post 1583243561 07-03-2019, 03:43 PM
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Fuk, that was INTENSE.

Thank fuk that other cop was able to keep his composure and take that piece of chit out.

What's the back story on this? Was the guy high?
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Wasnt there just a thread where a dude claimed german cops shoot people in the legs all the time and it works?

Guess it doesnt always
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Cop maybe needs to learn self defence... getting taken down by a guy with 6 bullets in his legs.
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Originally Posted By poland144
Tasers don't always stop people, especially when they're coked out on something which this guy had to be to stand up after all that

Wonder if this was a suicide by cops situation
I dont have to wonder. Cowards move to force another man to kill you like that.
post 1583243981 07-03-2019, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By GiveMeTheD
Cop maybe needs to learn self defence... getting taken down by a guy with 6 bullets in his legs.
Guess you never fought someone on crystal meth before. They can be inches from death and bleeding from everywhere and still feel no pain and have extreme strength
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980
Wasnt there just a thread where a dude claimed german cops shoot people in the legs all the time and it works?

Guess it doesnt always
Weird how real life is not like the movies, huh?

A buddy of mine just killed this piece of sh!t that fired on them first. He shot the guy 12 times, 3 in the chest cavity and the guy was still comin'. It's annoying on the public doesn't get it.
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post 1583244011 07-03-2019, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980
Wasnt there just a thread where a dude claimed german cops shoot people in the legs all the time and it works?

Guess it doesnt always
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post 1583244321 07-03-2019, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By Bigdumogre
Guess you never fought someone on crystal meth before. They can be inches from death and bleeding from everywhere and still feel no pain and have extreme strength
Right? These guys are often times on PCP and stuff like. People don't actually think these guys are ripped on a couple coffees and a monster?
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post 1583244621 07-03-2019, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By enzo818
Lol not challenging at all when your partner is about to get killed by an insane dude. You're an idiot.
You can tell these cops are amateurs just by watching the video. That **** was insane.

And again, it’s not hard to kill someone from six feet away with a handgun but if you think is.....whatever.
post 1583244971 07-03-2019, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Weird how real life is not like the movies, huh?

A buddy of mine just killed this piece of sh!t that fired on them first. He shot the guy 12 times, 3 in the chest cavity and the guy was still comin'. It's annoying on the public doesn't get it.
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Saw this on IG earlier on some Russian gun account. Was gonna repost here but was lazy.

This is proof that the retarded BLM stuff has gotten into cops heads and is going to cost police lives. They should have buried this guy way before he ever reached cop #2. Holstering your weapon for a non-lethal when the guy is still coming after a half-dozen gunshots is insane.

Wonder what scum bag dude was on.
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Originally Posted By FastBack6
You can tell these cops are amateurs just by watching the video. That **** was insane.

And again, it’s not hard to kill someone from six feet away with a handgun but if you think is.....whatever.
settle down there killer, it was clear the cop didn't want to kill the guy and probably his first time discharging his firearm on a human
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How it's possible neither of them shot him before getting attacked is beyond me
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That was pretty hard to watch man. I thought the cop was a goner.

I hate it for those cops, and I do wish they would have handled it sooner. It was pretty clear that cop was sincerely trying for the best outcome. No one would have blamed him for killing him earlier, and I kind of wish he did. I am glad this only got as bad as it did though.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon
Saw this on IG earlier on some Russian gun account. Was gonna repost here but was lazy.

This is proof that the retarded BLM stuff has gotten into cops heads and is going to cost police lives. They should have buried this guy way before he ever reached cop #2. Holstering your weapon for a non-lethal when the guy is still coming after a half-dozen gunshots is insane.

Wonder what scum bag dude was on.
Already been posted quite a few times, but the guy dropped the knife after the first shots. At that point you're killing an unarmed person. That's why he kept saying "taze" him to his partner, and why he holstered his gun after the initial shots. It wasn't a mistake or a stupid decision to switch to non-lethal after disarming.
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Originally Posted By RaibeartBruis
Why didn't they try tasing him first?

Murica...
A police taser has a max range of about ~30 feet... if you are putting yourself that close to taser someone you are also putting yourself in range to be stabbed.

ever heard of the 21 foot rule?

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Damn.... Where'd that guy come from??
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Originally Posted By ko300zx
Already been posted quite a few times, but the guy dropped the knife after the first shots. At that point you're killing an unarmed person. That's why he kept saying "taze" him to his partner, and why he holstered his gun after the initial shots. It wasn't a mistake or a stupid decision to switch to non-lethal after disarming.
And then if he shoots, the headline is "Cops kill unarmed man by shooting him 15 times" and by the time the body camera footage came out, no one would give a fuk. That's a pretty chit situation all together.
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Suicide by cop and/or mental illness and/or whacked out on drugs.
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Training for LEOs needs to emphasize shooting at the pelvis rather than the chest of bad guys armed with knives.

You put a round through the pelvis girdle and they ain't moving toward you no more.
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That was a ballsy head shot. A damn good shot.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
Training for LEOs needs to emphasize shooting at the pelvis rather than the chest of bad guys armed with knives.

You put a round through the pelvis girdle and they ain't moving toward you no more.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
Training for LEOs needs to emphasize shooting at the pelvis rather than the chest of bad guys armed with knives.

You put a round through the pelvis girdle and they ain't moving toward you no more.
Imagine if the people that train police and military actually listened the public's opinion on this stuff. LOL

Why not just ask these people nicely to behave?
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I think it was pretty obvious this dude wanted suicide by cop. He kept asking them to shoot him. If he wanted to actually hurt the cop he attacked, he had plenty of time.
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout
Training for LEOs needs to emphasize shooting at the pelvis rather than the chest of bad guys armed with knives.

You put a round through the pelvis girdle and they ain't moving toward you no more.
There is what's called a "drug and armor" drill, which is rounds to the pelvis and head. Not trained on a lot by normal cops because most of the time cops are terrible shots, so the limited time for firearms training is spent on basic fundamentals. I personally think I spent about 90 seconds (literally) doing this at the academy, and never heard that phrase again until SWAT training, where you can practice these things instead of the basics. Realistically, in 99% of police shootings, going for center mass is going to be the right call. You can't have people that are questionable shots trying to shoot like John Wick or whatever, it's just going to lead to more stray rounds. Also hitting a moving target with stress is hard as fuk, I'm a pretty good shot and I'd probably just go for center mass in the same situation, still has the highest probability of success IMO, the drug and armor drill is just another technique.
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