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post 1583906591 07-14-2019, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Your concept of reality is a little flawed as well, because for you it seems to simply mean the current status quo.

I'll give you an example that shows that mindset matters. I was never very good at math, it was my weakness throughout my academic life. However, it was necessary given the nature of my field. I could never become a theoretical physicist or engineer, but through countless hours of reading and listening to lectures on my own time, I got to the point where I achieved enough mastery over the subject that I've now published peer-reviewed articles that utilize econometric modelling and equations. Had I simply said it's all genetics, it never would have happened. No doubt my ability to devote that time to learning the material is partially based on a privilege that I had no control over, but the point is within certain bounds change and improvement is possible. and those changes can have large outcomes.
this example is perfectly in line with what I've been saying. you understood math was a weakness and you had limitations, but still did the best you could. that is exactly what I've been saying in here, I've said it like 50 times.

What I would be against, is you living in delusion and thinking you could be some math god despite it obviously not being something you have the aptitude for.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Just because it looks like you don't know the meaning of the word:



Anyone with a growth mindset (Rebel012) will be more successful in life than someone with a passive mindset (BBMG).
I'm not against a growth mindset, I'm against irrational, unrealistic thinking.

I've said like 50 times that people should do the best they can
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy
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Lol
I don't even know where to start.
First Jeff bezos.
The dude could afford to quit because he had wealthy parents. Again this is a survival bias I'm talking about. For every guy that succeed like bezos, there are thousands that fail. Nobody remembers those that failed in spite of their drive and mindset. A lot of people have great mindset, but that doesn't make them successful. As a result, one can safely conclude that mindset doesn't necessarily cause success. It's 2019, and people still don't understand causation and correlation.
Anyways, as for athletes, I don't even think this needs to be argued. Anyone with a brain knows that top athletes are all trained with the latest approaches and are following the latest findings of nutritions science. Nobody qualifies for the Olympics without having a winning mindset, but that doesn't make them the number one or let alone a top three athlete. Sports are actually the biggest display of the power of genetics predispositions in determining outcomes of competitions.
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post 1583907601 07-14-2019, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
Lol
I don't even know where to start.
First Jeff bezos.
The dude could afford to quit because he had wealthy parents. Again this is a survival bias I'm talking about. For every guy that succeed like bezos, there are thousands that fail. Nobody remembers those that failed in spite of their drive and mindset. A lot of people have great mindset, but that doesn't make them successful. As a result, one can safely conclude that mindset doesn't necessarily cause success.
nah man, everyone that succeeds has a positive attitude and anyone that fails doesnt.

if you arent a pro athlete you just didnt try hard enough

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I'll start playing the lottery everyday, and I hope that my positive mindset will help me win. I see a lot of people on TV winning the lotto, so that means I can do it too if I just have a mindset that's strong enough.
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
I'll start playing the lottery everyday, and I hope that my positive mindset will help me win. I see a lot of people on TV winning the lotto, so that means I can do it too if I just have a mindset that's strong enough.
if you lose its your fault. gitgud
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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
I'll start playing the lottery everyday, and I hope that my positive mindset will help me win.
This is what we call capitulation through exaggeration.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
if you lose its your fault. gitgud
yeah brah I will just try next time with a better attitude
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
Lol you’re in it with them now and it’s entertaining. Their belief system is so rooted that challenging makes their heads explode. Like “how can you not see the FACTS?”
It is soo fcking sad seriously I feel bad for them. Some people just love being miserable and hopeless. I can only thank God I’ve had gleaming hope in times that were dark to keep me from getting like that.


You guys who agree with OP seriously need to practice gratitude. SERIOUSLY. This is no back handed insult. You need to open YouTube and put on a gratitude meditation or list 10 small things in your life you enjoy wether it be a cup of coffee or a hot shower.

You don’t even understand how worse chit can get. You have a comfortable bed you can sleep in every night. I want you to imagine yourself out on the street sleeping behind a target... be fckin grateful you don’t have to walk to get water. My God I wish I could get through to you *******s
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
This is what we call capitulation through exaggeration.
Yeah of course I'm overdoing it here. It's just for fun now
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy
It is soo fcking sad seriously I feel bad for them. Some people just love being miserable and hopeless. I can only thank God I’ve had gleaming hope in times that were dark to keep me from getting like that.


You guys who agree with OP seriously need to practice gratitude. SERIOUSLY. This is no back handed insult. You need to open YouTube and put on a gratitude meditation or list 10 small things in your life you enjoy wether it be a cup of coffee or a hot shower.

You don’t even understand how worse chit can get. You have a comfortable bed you can sleep in every night. I want you to imagine yourself out on the street sleeping behind a target... be fckin grateful you don’t have to walk to get water. My God I wish I could get through to you *******s
living in reality != miserable and hopeless

living in reality != ungrateful for whatever good is in your life
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
living in reality != miserable and hopeless

living in reality != ungrateful for whatever good is in your life
If you just keep repeating yourself, it’ll come true. Say it again lol
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post 1583908321 07-14-2019, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
If you just keep repeating yourself, it’ll come true. Say it again lol
ok, so you think living in reality = miserable and hopeless and ungrateful. you're dumb
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
ok, so you think living in reality = miserable and hopeless and ungrateful.
No and stop generalizing all things. Also continuing to call names doesn’t help your goofy position.

A realist isn’t someone that never sees things positively or with some optimism or hope. I’m a realist, I just know where it applies and where it doesn’t. I also know how important your mindset is on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
living in reality != miserable and hopeless

living in reality != ungrateful for whatever good is in your life
What if (reality) = miserable, hopeless and ungrateful for whatever good is in your life?

It’s so incredibly apparent how blind you are to this defeatist mindset you’ve adopted. You’ve already given up and are just looking to troll and reinforce your flawed view point.

I know this because if you actually had a positive grateful mindset, you wouldnt agree with OP

crying in a forum. for what? What do you expect to come from this thread? Life is good brah
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Well we're gonna find out if mindset matters. The Discovery Channel is doing a reality show where they're going to take a billionaire and put him in a random city with a new name and identity, and give him $100 and he has to turn that into a million dollar business within 90 days. And he can't use any of his wealth or contacts so he's starting from the bottom. If he's successful I'm going to be really impressed and inspired.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
I'm not against a growth mindset, I'm against irrational, unrealistic thinking.

I've said like 50 times that people should do the best they can
Except it's not an effective strategy to 'try your best' in a mental vacuum or with a pessimistic belief that you will likely fail. In fact, your interpretation of trying your best seems to entail going through the necessary motions in a mechanical fashion while reminding yourself that you will likely not succeed. To use my previous example, if I had pursued the endeavor I mentioned above with the mindset that my limitations would make failure likely, I would not have approached the task with as much determination. Unrealistic means not knowing when to quit.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
All I have ever said that truly sucks in my life is being unable to get women. Most other things in my life dont out right suck, mostly just meh.
I’m gonna type this as sober as possible.

Come tell me how the world works when you can accomplish your most basic fundamental biological imperative - and then do something to attain ANY measurable level of success. Until then, your worldview is literally worthless.

You & only you are responsible for your meh life. Your mediocrity has forced you to protect your ego by rationalizing your lack of success via pessimism disguised as a clear reflection of reality. Where you are is not the result of bad luck - it is the result of millions of choices you have made during your entire life.

You can have a girl, flourish at work, at home, and contribute to your community. The reality is that the correct positive mindset with a focus on success and accomplishment will drastically improve every facet of your life by forcing you to begin making better choices that will get you where you want to go. The culmination of those choices may not lead you where you initially think they will; in fact you may be given opportunities you can’t currently envision and force you to reassess your direction.

Or you can have the same chitty attitude and will be in the same position a decade from today.
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mindset is everything you fookin pleb
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Cus was a strong believer that in your mind you had to be the entity you wanted to be. If you wanted to be heavyweight champion of the world, you had to start living the life of a heavyweight champion- iron mike

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Originally Posted By nnodcvcker
I'll start playing the lottery everyday, and I hope that my positive mindset will help me win. I see a lot of people on TV winning the lotto, so that means I can do it too if I just have a mindset that's strong enough.
Hey man I'm going to do some cold approaches with a good mindset and post in that cold approach thread.....oh wait that doesn't work irl as you can see how that thread turned out.
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I've never heard anybody said "mindset" alone matters in our lives here in BB.com. Yet there still always someone who brings up the subject in the most negative way. Shame on you who do that and should have known that there are many friends here still fighting against all the odds in their life with their positive mindset alone.

When luck, fate, heritage and whatever we don't have are all against our life and the happiness of people we love, our mindset, determination, and willpower are the only things we have left to depend on.

It's your prerogative to deny the power of your own mindset but nobody has any right to slight that of others.

The reason BB.com is here is supposed to support not to discourage each other.

Our true strength lies in our mindset that never allows us to give up no matter what.

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Originally Posted By eod8989
Hey man I'm going to do some cold approaches with a good mindset and post in that cold approach thread.....oh wait that doesn't work irl as you can see how that thread turned out.
Because you're a low level human, with a low threshold for pain/stress.

I've smashed 30+ women from day time cold approach, all were a 7/10 minimum. I could've banged more, but I realised years ago that I'm an introvert who prefers having 1 high quality woman as opposed to multiple average ones. My last gf of almost 2 years was a 9/10 to most people, and I met her outside a supermarket.

I'm a 6/10 at best looks wise.

The reason it's worked for me is that I have a sales mindset, and pride myself on work ethic. I analyse the fuk out of the chit that I do, whether personal or professional, and try to figure things out, become better and more efficient, and eventually realise some level of success.

Dudes like you are men-children. You get smacked in the face after a few tries, and you want to throw your toys out of the pram. You live in the first world, with unlimited resources at your fingertips, and yet you can't figure this chit out.

Mate no one gives a fuk about you and your ineptitude. Stop crying and fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy
What if (reality) = miserable, hopeless and ungrateful for whatever good is in your life?

It’s so incredibly apparent how blind you are to this defeatist mindset you’ve adopted. You’ve already given up and are just looking to troll and reinforce your flawed view point.

I know this because if you actually had a positive grateful mindset, you wouldnt agree with OP

crying in a forum. for what? What do you expect to come from this thread? Life is good brah
yes, sometimes reality sucks. We all know it, and theres nothing wrong with acknowledging that. That doesnt mean you cant make the most of it, but you guys act like you have to live with blinders on and ignore the cold hard truth sometimes and I just dont get it.

I'll say this again: I am not advocating for deaftism. I have said 100 times, TRY YOUR BEST IN LIFE.

but you can try your best without deluding yourself into stuff that isnt true dude.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
Except it's not an effective strategy to 'try your best' in a mental vacuum or with a pessimistic belief that you will likely fail.
what about when it is a FACT that you will most likely fail. Such as starting a business like I said.

It is a fact that the vast majority of businesses fail. FACT. So, I would advise that anyone starting a business should understand and acknowledge that reality. Odds are against them. Does that mean they shouldnt go for it? No. But they should also live in reality when they do and understand its going to be hard as fuk even if they do everything they can. why? Because thats the reality of the situation.
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Originally Posted By Imaneya
Because you're a low level human, with a low threshold for pain/stress.

I've smashed 30+ women from day time cold approach, all were a 7/10 minimum. I could've banged more, but I realised years ago that I'm an introvert who prefers having 1 high quality woman as opposed to multiple average ones. My last gf of almost 2 years was a 9/10 to most people, and I met her outside a supermarket.

I'm a 6/10 at best looks wise.

The reason it's worked for me is that I have a sales mindset, and pride myself on work ethic. I analyse the fuk out of the chit that I do, whether personal or professional, and try to figure things out, become better and more efficient, and eventually realise some level of success.

Dudes like you are men-children. You get smacked in the face after a few tries, and you want to throw your toys out of the pram. You live in the first world, with unlimited resources at your fingertips, and yet you can't figure this chit out.

Mate no one gives a fuk about you and your ineptitude. Stop crying and fist yourself.
Sorry but I dont believe dudes are meeting 8s and 9s outside of supermarkets. This just isn't the reality I live in. Some people dont want to cold approach either. It's a literal meme that was popular back in like 2010-2011 and doesn't work.
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Originally Posted By ChewYourFood
I’m gonna type this as sober as possible.

Come tell me how the world works when you can accomplish your most basic fundamental biological imperative - and then do something to attain ANY measurable level of success. Until then, your worldview is literally worthless.
Ok, well I had a gf before and had sex, and I have an ivy league degree from a top 3 school you dumb *******. there, now do you respect my worldview?
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Originally Posted By Samraiwise
I've never heard anybody said "mindset" alone matters in our lives here in BB.com. Yet there still always someone who brings up the subject in the most negative way. Shame on you who do that and should have known that there are many friends here still fighting against all the odds in their life with their positive mindset alone.

When luck, fate, heritage and whatever we don't have are all against our life and the happiness of people we love, our mindset, determination, and willpower are the only things we have left to depend on.

It's your prerogative to deny the power of your own mindset but nobody has any right to slight that of others.

The reason BB.com is here is supposed to support not to discourage each other.

Our true strength lies in our mindset that never allows us to give up no matter what.

If you stop believing that then you are already dead.
Mindset doesnt change observable reality and the facts of life. Too many times BB tells me otherwise.

thats basiclaly all I'm saying ITT, and look at the push back I'm getting
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Originally Posted By Imaneya
I'm a 6/10 at best looks wise.

The reason it's worked for me is that I have a sales mindset, and pride myself on work ethic.
being a 6/10 and getting women is not some great feat. If you looked like jar jar binks and was slaying models, come talk to me.

average white guys getting regular poon is not some difficult accomplishment. all you have to do is show up and put in the numbers game
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Sorry but I dont believe dudes are meeting 8s and 9s outside of supermarkets. This just isn't the reality I live in. Some people dont want to cold approach either. It's a literal meme that was popular back in like 2010-2011 and doesn't work.
Your reality is also that you work out once every 8 days and think you’re a freak yet your body hasn’t changed in literally 10 years.
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