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07-29-2019, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By NukYavlen⏩
Since OP bailed on his own thread let me give you a peace of information that I have found useful in years of many that I have been on this planet:What do you do if you have the upper body but have trouble building upstairs? no wait a minute
What do you do if you have the lower body but can't build upstairs?
What do you do if you have the lower body but can't build upstairs?
lower body, you got a problem building your your lower body, you got upper lower body, you got the upper body ugl the lower body you uh its hard to build the upper body. if you have the lower body, it's harder to build the upper body, if you have the upper body, it's hard to build lower, so, lower helps like i said, you have the lower body and you have no upper body you got a problem you got a problem building... wait a minute, you have the upper body and you have no legs, you have the upper body and you have no legs, you got a problem building the legs. you have an upper, you have the lower body, and you dont have the upper body the upper body, it's easier to build. so if you have the lower body, and you dont have the upper body, it's easier to build the upper body, you have the upper body and and you dont have the legs, you got a problem, building the lower body. naw you dont understand. you HAVE, the UPPER body, but you dont have the lower body, you got a problem building downstairs. you got up the dlldldldldlegs on the bottom, it's it's easier to build the top ehoh if you, if you have the lower BODY, it's, if you have the lower body it's easier to build, if you have the lower body well just let me say it, if you have the lower body, lower body, it's easier to build the top body, if you have the uh the top body, and no legs you got a problem.
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07-29-2019, 11:26 AM
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07-29-2019, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
Areyou implying time started there? Would there not be a period of time that existed before then?You would reach Big Bang.
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07-29-2019, 11:35 AM
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07-29-2019, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
You would eventually reach a singularity. Any notion of time and space beyond a certain point fails to make sense.If you wen't back in time as far as you could, would you ever reach a destination, or would you keep traveling forever?
07-29-2019, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
Big Bang is shortly after time began. We know time had a beginning, and there is no notion of "before" in this universe. There may be a larger structure in which this universe is embedded, but that is unknown. Believe it or not, it can have some implication to cosmology, and so some ideas can possibly be tested.Areyou implying time started there? Would there not be a period of time that existed before then?
07-29-2019, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I told you to explain it in a way I understand it. You failed!You would eventually reach a singularity. Any notion of time and space beyond a certain point fails to make sense.
07-29-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By TheGeneralTso⏩
Who says there was nothing? Something blew up, though you could say a force started the process and we call that God. A cosmic being with that magnitude of power would surely be something incomprehensible to us, yet humans still humanise this possible ultimate being and tailor a cosmic entity to match the beliefs of their tribe. If there is a God, I'm sure we are ignorant of it.How could the universe be created out of nothing if God wasn't real? Nothing arises from nothing. Therefore what created this universe had something preceding over it. This is what you call God.
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07-29-2019, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Hicksbrah⏩
Realizing this is likely a troll....you are missing the bigger point here. These questions don't have "answers" like for example, "is the square root of 2 rational or irrational?" has an answer. So to be answering one question after the next in here is basically idiocracy.Nothing I said is random or nonsense. However, if you've never read a philosophy book and developed the necessary thinking processes and terminology, a lot of stuff might go over your head. If I have to explain every concept with extremely basic terms I would need to spend too much time explaining something that should be at least intuitively obvious to someone with above-average capacity for philosophical thought. My phrasing if you compare it to philosophy as a discipline overall falls into the easy to understand side of things.
Also, lol at metaphysics in general.
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07-29-2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Is cosmology space witchcraft?Big Bang is shortly after time began. We know time had a beginning, and there is no notion of "before" in this universe. There may be a larger structure in which this universe is embedded, but that is unknown. Believe it or not, it can have some implication to cosmology, and so some ideas can possibly be tested.
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07-29-2019, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted By TheGeneralTso⏩
What is the universeis Godand not an entity separate from it?It's agreed we can conclude there is a God. What I did not talk about was the order of things in the universe. I also did not discuss the order of morality among humans. The tribe you belong to is your race and nationality. Which is an extension of your family even if you are not directly genetically related. The purpose is to crush other ones so yours is on top. For example, if you are Chinese you believe your nationality is better than Americans. Americans believe they are better than Canadians for example. This is human behavior.
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07-29-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By TheGeneralTso⏩
But if something cant come from nothing, where did god come from?How could the universe be created out of nothing if God wasn't real? Nothing arises from nothing. Therefore what created this universe had something preceding over it. This is what you call God.
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07-29-2019, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted By TheGeneralTso⏩
What do you base this on?The universe is not a God, it's just an expansive and infinite material realm. But an entity created it. This is a God and yes there is an order to things. In ancient Greek, this word was called Logos.
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07-29-2019, 12:16 PM
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When assembling a Victoria sponge cake, should the jam be spread on the bottom layer and then sandwiched by the buttercream or vice versa?..
So, from the top layer downwards
Sponge, buttercream, jam, sponge
OR
Sponge, jam, buttercream, sponge?
So, from the top layer downwards
Sponge, buttercream, jam, sponge
OR
Sponge, jam, buttercream, sponge?
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07-29-2019, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Cass40⏩
Basically, measured distances between objects are increasing over time. We think of it as if space is stretching out or inflating in a sense. That means if you look back in time far enough, you eventually get to a point where everything is really close together, and too close to make any sense of any idea of distance or time.I told you to explain it in a way I understand it. You failed!
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07-29-2019, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
No lol. Cosmology is...the study of the cosmos! Our theories of the universe have consequences to what we can see in the distant stars, cosmic microwave background radiation, distant galaxies, etc.Is cosmology space witchcraft?
07-29-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted By ChelshireCat⏩
jam sponge, sponge, buttercream gnomesaiyanWhen assembling a Victoria sponge cake, should the jam be spread on the bottom layer and then sandwiched by the buttercream or vice versa?..
So, from the top layer downwards
Sponge, buttercream, jam, sponge
OR
Sponge, jam, buttercream, sponge?
So, from the top layer downwards
Sponge, buttercream, jam, sponge
OR
Sponge, jam, buttercream, sponge?
07-29-2019, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You speak about God as if you're the one that has everything figured out, and he's playing by your set of rules. It's the other way around m8. God is transcendental, he cannot be fully understood, manifested, or defined. Without being able to do these things, it's impossible to say what God can and cannot do.What would it mean for something to not be constrained by logic?
For example, we know 1 is not equal to 0, assuming the basic axioms we take from ZFC. There is no way for God or anyone else to prove otherwise within this logical framework. It is truly logically impossible to prove a false statement as true. God's reality need not have these axioms, but God is clearly constrained by the laws of logic. He cannot make something that is false true.
God cannot construct a one to one function mapping say the set {0,1} onto the set {0,1,2,3}. This is impossible. Not even God could do it.
For example, we know 1 is not equal to 0, assuming the basic axioms we take from ZFC. There is no way for God or anyone else to prove otherwise within this logical framework. It is truly logically impossible to prove a false statement as true. God's reality need not have these axioms, but God is clearly constrained by the laws of logic. He cannot make something that is false true.
God cannot construct a one to one function mapping say the set {0,1} onto the set {0,1,2,3}. This is impossible. Not even God could do it.
If you believe it, then God broke many universal laws (as we can understand them) and did things we know are impossible, through various prophets and through Jesus.
How do you feed a multitude with a few pieces of bread and fish, and end up with leftovers that appear to be several fold what you started with? The law of conservation of mass says it is impossible.
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07-29-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Hicksbrah⏩
Lol, thought the thread was gonna be good then you start waxing philosophically about "free will".The meaning of life on a local level (ie the meaning of life for an individual person specifically) is created by you. This is done in the exercise of free will inside an ontologically incomplete universe - that is, a universe that is "designed" specifically for conscious observers whose carrying-out of free will renders the universe complete. On a global scope, the meaning of life is that life is a "sandbox" environment that is both created by and self-reflective of its participants. The meaning of life is thus a creative act, where creation and act precede and define meaning.
But who was determinism?
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07-29-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
I just showed you something that can't be done by God or anyone else. I didn't make these rules. It's logic. It's like saying God can divide by zero. It's nuts. You're nuts.You speak about God as if you're the one that has everything figured out, and he's playing by your set of rules. It's the other way around m8. God is transcendental, he cannot be fully understood, manifested, or defined. Without being able to do these things, it's impossible to say what God can and cannot do.
07-29-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
*sigh*I just showed you something that can't be done by God or anyone else. I didn't make these rules. It's logic. It's like saying God can divide by zero. It's nuts. You're nuts.
way to not grasp what I said, even a little. How can someone so smart simultaneously be so small minded?
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07-29-2019, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
I grasped what you said. It's also stupid as hell. God cannot define a one to one function from {0} onto {0,1} because no such function can exist. Period.*sigh*
way to not grasp what I said, even a little. How can someone so smart simultaneously be so small minded?
way to not grasp what I said, even a little. How can someone so smart simultaneously be so small minded?
BTW laws of physics could be imagined to be alterable by God, so it is possible Jesus turned wine into water, etc in principle, even though it would break a lot of chit. On the other hand, the laws of logic are much higher than that. Even God is constrained by them.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You don't understand how that could be possible, you mean.I grasped what you said. It's also stupid as hell. God cannot define a one to one function from {0} onto {0,1} because no such function can exist. Period.
Also it's distasteful to say something is stupid as hell, simply because you disagree with it, or don't understand it. Just trying to help your social skills.
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If homosex is a dead end street in evolutionary terms why are there still homosexuals? Shouldn't natural selection have weeded them out by now?
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
It's not congenital or hereditary, obviouslyIf homosex is a dead end street in evolutionary terms why are there still homosexuals? Shouldn't natural selection have weeded them out by now?
lmao
Two straight people make a gay person 100% of the time, think about it.
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07-29-2019, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
There are only 2 such functions, and neither is onto the whole set, numbnuts.You don't understand how that could be possible, you mean.
Also it's distasteful to say something is stupid as hell, simply because you disagree with it, or don't understand it. Just trying to help your social skills.
Also it's distasteful to say something is stupid as hell, simply because you disagree with it, or don't understand it. Just trying to help your social skills.
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Originally Posted By Jacobcapra⏩
But with homosex always resulting in a dead end you would think whatever causes it would eventually be bred out of the population. Like our tails did.It's not congenital or hereditary, obviously
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Two straight people make a gay person 100% of the time, think about it.
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Two straight people make a gay person 100% of the time, think about it.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
You calling me numbnuts right now is ironic.There are only 2 such functions, and neither is onto the whole set, numbnuts.
You're talking about pointless things, whether God can violate mathematical logic or make 1=0. THAT'S your roadblock? Not how the entire universe could have seemingly sprung out of nothing, all contained in an infinitesimal point? Or how Jesus endured torture that would have killed several men over, only to raise from the dead 3 days later?
Stuck in a small world defined only by logic, rules, and laws....
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
To entertain that train of thought, there is plenty of homosexuality in the animal kingdom that doesn't result in a genetic dead end.But with homosex always resulting in a dead end you would think whatever causes it would eventually be bred out of the population. Like our tails did.
In other words, animals do gay **** all the time but still go **** the other gender and make kids.
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07-29-2019, 01:14 PM
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what is perspective if humans were not around to act as a relative comparator?
does it still exist?
why not?
are we the epicentre of perspective or is this just a figment of humanity's well-documented and ongoing delusions of grandeur as a species?
does it still exist?
why not?
are we the epicentre of perspective or is this just a figment of humanity's well-documented and ongoing delusions of grandeur as a species?
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