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post 1586035251 08-16-2019, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted By staywithmebaby
I love them and I know I'm not gay

If people wanna call me gay I don't care. I don't even get the guilty feeling anymore . I'd happily date a transgender woman if I found a good one
You shouldn't feel guilty, if you like them do you, nobody cares

But trying to change the definition of straight because you can't cope with the fact you no longer fall under the definition of straight is laughable
post 1586035271 08-16-2019, 04:44 AM
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You in denial *******s are the ones spreading aids to heterosexuals. Stick with your aids infected anal death sentence and leave real women alone.
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OP is trying to complicate an issue that isn't that complicated.

Straight men are attracted to females.

A straight man can consider a tranny attractive, but a straight man will lose sexual desire to have sex with said tranny when they find out it was born a male.

I'm straight. But I can admit when a tranny looks like a woman and is pretty. Hell, I can even be fooled. But a lot of the times, I notice some things about them that seem off. But regardless of how much of a woman some might look, once I find out that a person was born a male, I have no desire to want to **** them. Zero.

So what else do you want to know, op?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Lol @ the cope ITT. All of you have seen someone posted that you thought was hot initially only to find out later that it was male, which means basically everyone on this sitehasin fact been attracted to a male. Does that mean all miscers are *******s?



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This. Ya'll have been bamboozled too many times to count.
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I always keep a mental note of miscers who are violently opposed to trans women. Almost a guarantee that they are deeply closeted homosexuals. Anyone who is that outraged and frustrated by straight guys banging out trans women has issues with their own sexuality.
Also this.
post 1586036011 08-16-2019, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
So what else do you want to know, op?
What would you call men who have sex with transwomen with a penis, or transwomen with a surgical vagina?

What would you call men who have sex with Buck Angel?
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post 1586036201 08-16-2019, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
What would you call men who have sex with transwomen with a penis, or transwomen with a surgical vagina?

What would you call men who have sex with Buck Angel?
What’s the point of a post op unless you’re unknowingly seeing one
post 1586036291 08-16-2019, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
What would you call men who have sex with transwomen with a penis, or transwomen with a surgical vagina?

What would you call men who have sex with Buck Angel?
Gay. If they're not gay, then something in them, some part of their psyche, finds being with the same sex to be sexually desirable.

Like I said, a straight man can find a tranny attractive. But a straight man will lose desire once they find out if a person was born a male. I don't care how much a person looks like a woman, the idea that they were born a male is repulsive to me sexually.

A man that wants to have sex with Buck Angel might be gay as well. Do these men exist?
post 1586036451 08-16-2019, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted By dogorman7
What’s the point of a post op unless you’re unknowingly seeing one
What do you mean 'what is the point'?

Maybe there is an assumption that the only reason why someone would date a transwoman, is if they fetishize they appearence of a chick with a dick?

And so you can't see why someone would have a non sexual fetish based attraction to a transwoman (i.e. be actually attracted to them as a person).
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post 1586036601 08-16-2019, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Gay. If they're not gay, then something in them, some part of their psyche, finds being with the same sex to be sexually desirable.

Like I said, a straight man can find a tranny attractive. But a straight man will lose desire once they find out if a person was born a male. I don't care how much a person looks like a woman, the idea that they were born a male is repulsive to me sexually.
There's only 2 categories of sexuality to you... Gay and Straight?

You don't think that's it's possible for a straight man not to care about the fact that a transwoman was born into a male body, and transitioned?
A man that wants to have sex with Buck Angel might be gay as well.
Buck Angel was born into a female body, so based on your previous reasoning... They would straight.

If you conclude that having sex with a transwoman is gay, because they were born into a male body. Then as a corollary, it's straight to have sex with a transman, because they were born into a female body.
Do these men exist?
Buck Angel has had sex with men.
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post 1586036611 08-16-2019, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
You shouldn't feel guilty, if you like them do you, nobody cares

But trying to change the definition of straight because you can't cope with the fact you no longer fall under the definition of straight is laughable
my point is that I don't want to have sex with conventional men, gay porn does nothing for me. Transgender women are like a foreign avenue away from men and women, that's how I see it. I know that sounds bizarre but I don't group them with men

There is no.cope, I truly do not care what people categorise me as. If society wants to group me as gay then fine. But I'm telling you MY personal view that only women and hot transgender women turn me on.
post 1586036721 08-16-2019, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted By staywithmebaby
my point is that I don't want to have sex with conventional men, gay porn does nothing for me. Transgender women are like a foreign avenue away from men and women, that's how I see it. I know that sounds bizarre but I don't group them with men
Which is why i said 'not straight' rather than gay brah
post 1586036731 08-16-2019, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted By staywithmebaby
my point is that I don't want to have sex with conventional men, gay porn does nothing for me. Transgender women are like a foreign avenue away from men and women, that's how I see it. I know that sounds bizarre but I don't group them with men
In South East Asian culture I've read they are referred to as 'the 3rd Gender', or a sub-set of female... Ladyboy.

From what I've seen, in South East Asia transwomen have no problem being identified as a group distinct from cis-women. A strong social identity seems to have been formed around being a transwomen/ladyboys in south east asia.

The same attitude can be found in the west in the transfemale community from what I've seen... However, in the west the mainstream media seem to heavily push that there should be no distinction drawn between cis-women and trans-women (unless we are talking about issues of discrimination).

(Everything I wrote is based on my own rudimentary research, best to do your own research IMO.)
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post 1586037011 08-16-2019, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
There's only 2 categories of sexuality to you... Gay and Straight?

You don't think that's it's possible for a straight man not to care about the fact that a transwoman was born into a male body, and transitioned?



Buck Angel was born into a female body, so based on your previous reasoning... They would straight.

If you conclude that having sex with a transwoman is gay, because they were born into a male body. Then as a corollary, it's straight to have sex with a transman, because they were born into a female body.



Buck Angel has had sex with men.
Hey, a person can fall in love with a person of the same sex, etc, and have had no history of being in previous gay relationships, etc. But it can be a case of that person actually realizing something they didn't know about themselves, etc.

That might be a totally different situation to males for instance who continue to specifically seek out tranny porn or trannies and want to call themselves straight because - I can't be gay if the dick is attached to a female body right? Or, I can't be gay if the person is mutilated to look like a female, right?

Well, then the question becomes, why do you have to seek out trannies in the first place? If you like the feminine features of a female, why not just seek out females? They do exist and they have not gone extinct. Female born porn stars exist. Why are you habitually looking for trannies? Females are also available in public for sex. So why are you actively seeking out trannies to have sex with if you're straight? Basically, men who are into trannies have some mental and sexual issues that they haven't been able to accept.

I'm straight. As a straight man, I only find women sexually desirable. I find the idea of having sex with a man repulsive. That is why I only seek out women. Why would I want a tranny when real women exist?

As for Buck Angel, if she has had sex with men while looking like her, then those men probably have some underlying issues they need to deal with.

Also, just speaking for yourself, op, you already admitted you don't consider yourself straight, isn't that correct?
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
What would you call men who have sex with transwomen with a penis, or transwomen with a surgical vagina?

What would you call men who have sex with Buck Angel?
You are at a minimum bi

No matter how good the tranny looks there is still a cock attached

You're into cock but not the male physique

Just embrace it and delve deep into the rabbit hole
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
Which is why i said 'not straight' rather than gay brah
Okay I get you lol. I don't know what I am. Just a freaky mf'er
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i absolutely understand the appeal of bangin a tranny. no nagging, hanging out with one of your bros 24-7, probably good at gaming, nice to have another handy person around the house, no mood swings, can help you lift heavy furniture. i just dont think its worth the punishment (going to hell forever)
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
In South East Asian culture I've read they are referred to as 'the 3rd Gender', or a sub-set of female... Ladyboy.

From what I've seen, in South East Asia transwomen have no problem being identified as a group distinct from cis-women. A strong social identity seems to have been formed around being a transwomen/ladyboys in south east asia.

The same attitude can be found in the west in the transfemale community from what I've seen... However, in the west the mainstream media seem to heavily push that there should be no distinction drawn between cis-women and trans-women (unless we are talking about issues of discrimination).

(Everything I wrote is based on my own rudimentary research, best to do your own research IMO.)
I don't know how things are in Asia but I agree with your point that the West want to group men, women and transgender in the same category, like people's sex are malleable.

Biologically speaking it's always going to be a ****ing man, chromosomes don't lie, but some of them are so beautiful that my mind doesn't view them as being one.
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OP you have to think bigger picture

Some people out there will fuk goats. You think there is a place at the table of human sexuality for the goat fukkers? Does it matter?

Human sexuality evolved over thousands maybe millions of years through natural men and women interacting (intersex is such a minor anomaly and would not have factored in)(same for the goats). Overwhelming majority of us are straight; the rest are not straight. Every year someone thinks of another way to be not straight. All it does is make the dictionary longer but it doesn't tell us anything new.
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There is nothing even remotely "straight" about being sexually attracted to men who look like women.

"alt-straight"

"chick with a dick"

Get a grip, OPie

It's a man WHO LOOKS LIKE a woman.

"Buck" is a woman WHO LOOKS LIKE a man. And no straight man would be attracted to her, for that reason.

Be gay, be bi, fuk whoever you want, but don't push ridiculous theories to try to justify it.

Finding a man who looks exactly like a hot woman attractive is a bit confusing, but normal. Saying you want to fuk him in the azz and eat his cum is fruity af.

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I’ll briefly chime in as my viewpoint is in the minority as it relates to ‘mainstream’ thinking.
I’m transgender. I’m not female as I wasn’t born female.

I identify as female because it makes things much easier from a societal perspective. My appearance is more feminine than masculine imo. Hence my name change, documents changes to reflect ‘female’ etc.

When it comes to sexual attraction, or attraction in general, the waters become a bit muddied as each individual’s perceptions can vary greatly.

I often take the simplest route sans labels. In the end you like what you like, and what others’ think of it should be at the bottom of the list of things to care about.

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I’ll briefly chime in as my viewpoint is in the minority as it relates to ‘mainstream’ thinking.
I’m transgender. I’m not female as I wasn’t born female.

I identify as female because it makes things much easier from a societal perspective. My appearance is more feminine than masculine imo. Hence my name change, documents changes to reflect ‘female’ etc.

When it comes to sexual attraction, or attraction in general, the waters become a bit muddied as each individual’s perceptions can vary greatly.

I often take the simplest route sans labels. In the end you like what you like, and what others’ think of it should be at the bottom of the list of things to care about.

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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Well, then the question becomes, why do you have to seek out trannies in the first place? If you like the feminine features of a female, why not just seek out females? They do exist and they have not gone extinct. Female born porn stars exist. Why are you habitually looking for trannies? Females are also available in public for sex. So why are you actively seeking out trannies to have sex with if you're straight? Basically, men who are into trannies have some mental and sexual issues that they haven't been able to accept.
I don't think you you know the definitive reason why.

However, I've noticed some trends amongst men who like transwomen...

1/ Some genuinely don't care what is between their legs, if they are turned on and they look hot. I remember watching a vid of a transgirl, who was talking about when she was younger she would tell guys who asked her if she wanted to go home with them in clubs, she said that - paraphrasing - "When some straight guys are horny, as longs you look feminine and have a hole, they don't care.These guys likely don't want to touch or look at the dick during sex, but some are just indifferent to it.

2/ Some men specifically only want transwomen with a penis, and enjoy looking at, or doing sexual things with their dicks. These men will not be attracted to transwomen with surgical vaginas. For whatever reason, they find a feminine body with a penis really sexually arousing, but they also don't find masculine bodies with a penis arousing.

The men who only want transwomen with a penis, often fall into a category called 'chasers'... Men who only want transwomen for sex, and not serious dating. Basically transwomen are just a sexual fetish to them.

3/ Men who will are turned off by a transwoman having a penis, but are open to dating a transwoman with a surgical vagina. The don't care if someone is born a woman, or has transitioned to become a woman.

Directly addressing the question...

Why date transwomen, if cis-women are available to date?

Maybe the transwoman ticks all the personality boxes, and the men fall into one of the 3 categories that I've mentioned. Some men just like femininity, and don't care if they are born that way, or acquire it through hormones and surgery.

Imagine that you worked with a girl that looked like this...



And you got along great with her, and found out that you shared the same values, interests and sense of humour... But then found out that she had a dick (she actually does, BTW)... You would likely say "No, thanks."

However, I think there are a lot of guys who would be - if they didn't fear the disapproval of their peers - like "It isn't... But I really like her, so I'll want to see where this can go..."
Also, just speaking for yourself, op, you already admitted you don't consider yourself straight, isn't that correct?
Yes.

This thread is not a personal, even though a number of people try to make it personal... "LOL you're a *******, just accept it."

I've already explained my reasons for making this thread.
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Originally Posted By FailedPotential
It depends how you define "gay".

By the strict definition it's gay to be attracted to someone of the same sex. (By this definition, the entire worlds population is gay, as at some point they've seen some photo of a tranny, and not known it was a tranny, and felt attracted). So by the strict definition it's always gay.

If you define it as being attracted to masculinity, then it's not.

I don't see why it's seen in a negative light though. "It's gay!" Oh yeah, and?
Like I don't get where it matters. "You're attracted to a feminine person that has XY chromosomes? That's gay!" And?
It's like insulting a person for liking strawberries, "You like eating strawberries? That's bad taste in food!" And?

Even though the thread is kinda lols, it's funny to see how people wanna make ya feel bad for liking what you like. When you press them, it will be something along the lines of, "Nah, nah, each to their own, I have gay friends, not homophobic at all". Just observations m7+1.
gay = different which = bad or wrong. it's a pretty basic belief but it's like high schooler mentality lmao

those beliefs usually get watered down if you're dealing with someone 1-on-1 because it's all based on being influenced by what they believe is the most socially accepted viewpoint and the need to fit in.
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Originally Posted By GreekyBeth
I’ll briefly chime in as my viewpoint is in the minority as it relates to ‘mainstream’ thinking.
I’m transgender. I’m not female as I wasn’t born female.

I identify as female because it makes things much easier from a societal perspective. My appearance is more feminine than masculine imo. Hence my name change, documents changes to reflect ‘female’ etc.

When it comes to sexual attraction, or attraction in general, the waters become a bit muddied as each individual’s perceptions can vary greatly.

I often take the simplest route sans labels. In the end you like what you like, and what others’ think of it should be at the bottom of the list of things to care about.
^^^ Would wife.

And I agree with the bolded (though like I said in another post, some dude get torn up inside over their attraction to transwomen.)
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy
gay = different which = bad or wrong. it's a pretty basic belief but it's like high schooler mentality
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