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post 1586046361 08-16-2019, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Madvillainy
gay = different which = bad or wrong. it's a pretty basic belief but it's like high schooler mentality lmao.
Actually no. It's an innate belief cultured through millennia of civilization that has been used to build strong thriving communities.

When a civilization becomes "enlightened" and believes its people should be free to participate in all the degeneracy they desire its the beginning of the end for that civilization.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Actually no. It's an innate belief cultured through millennia of civilization that has been used to build strong thriving communities.

When a civilization becomes "enlightened" and believes its people should be free to participate in all the degeneracy they desire its the beginning of the end for that civilization.
fukkin lol you think like a caveman. which strong non-degenerate values will you be instilling in the next generation besides posting 25k times on the misc?
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post 1586047611 08-16-2019, 09:49 AM
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OP trying to justify why hes gay... Not like there was any doubt.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
You realize that you could be not attracted to chicks with dicks OR chicks with goatees?
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If you’re attracted to either, you’re a f@g

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post 1586053441 08-16-2019, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Actually no. It's an innate belief cultured through millennia of civilization that has been used to build strong thriving communities.

When a civilization becomes "enlightened" and believes its people should be free to participate in all the degeneracy they desire its the beginning of the end for that civilization.
This
Three important trends demonstrate moral decay. They are the "rise in immorality," the "decay of religious belief," and the "devaluing of human life."

The classic study of Roman civilization, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, written by English historian Edward Gibbon was published in that famous year of 1776. He "observed that the leaders of the empire gave into the vices of strangers, morals collapsed, laws became oppressive, and the abuse of power made the nation vulnerable to the barbarian hordes."

British historian Catherine Edwards demonstrated that our current examples of immorality are not a modern phenomenon. In her study of the "politics of immorality" in ancient Rome, she says that contraception, abortion, and exposure were common ways to prevent childbirth in Rome. Husbands refused to recognize any child they did not believe to be their own. "Until accepted by its father, a Roman baby did not, legally speaking, exist."{10}

Life became cheap in the latter days of the Roman Empire. Burdensome regulation and taxes made manufacturing and trade unprofitable. Families were locked into hereditary trades and vocations allowing little if any vocational choice. Eventually, children were seen as a needless burden and abortion and infanticide became commonplace. In some cases, children were sold into slavery.

Manners and social life fell into debauchery. Under Justinian, entertainment grew bawdier and more bizarre. Orgies and love feasts were common. Homosexuality and bestiality were openly practiced. Under Nero, Christians were blamed for the great fire in Rome and horribly persecuted.Similar patterns can be found in other civilizations. In Greece, the music of the young people became wild and coarse. Popular entertainment was brutal and vulgar. Promiscuity, homosexuality, and drunkenness became a daily part of life. And all moral and social restraints were lost leading to greater decadence.

In Carthage, worship turned from Baal to the earth goddess Tanit. "Sacrifices to the goddess of fertility were supposed to ensure productivity, long life, and even greater profits."{11} Ornately carved funeral monuments depicting infant sacrifice can be seen today along with thousands of tiny stone coffins to infants sacrificed to the pagan goddess.

The parallels to our own nation are striking. No, we don't sacrifice infants to a pagan goddess, but we have aborted nearly 40 million babies on the altar of convenience. And various sexual practices are openly accepted as part of an alternative lifestyle. It's no wonder that many believe our country is a nation in decline.
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what issue?

any self respecting straight male knows liking trannys = gay

getting fooled at first sight is more common than ever though with all the surgeries and filters going on
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post 1586057601 08-16-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Actually no. It's an innate belief cultured through millennia of civilization that has been used to build strong thriving communities.

When a civilization becomes "enlightened" and believes its people should be free to participate in all the degeneracy they desire its the beginning of the end for that civilization.
What I find troubling is the very selective morality.

Decade after decade in the 20th and 21st century of US military intervention in; South America, Central America, Africa, The Middle East, and South East Asia resulting in mass murder, isn't taken as a sign of the nation's moral decay + US corporations using sweatshops = Silence from the US Christian right (and even support for Neo-Conservative foreign policy and Zionism).

Stating that it's OK to be transgender = rampant alarmism from the Christian right, and the nation's moral decay.

Even if I believed that transgenderism and homosexuality was a sin, I would believe that mass murder via the military industrial complex and sweatshops are a far graver moral stains on the nation.

Again though... How much time does the Christian right (or the Right in general) spend criticizing military interventionism and sweatshops, vs the LGBT movement?
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post 1586059541 08-16-2019, 12:34 PM
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post 1586059661 08-16-2019, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
What I find troubling is the very selective morality.

Decade after decade in the 20th and 21st century of US military intervention in; South America, Central America, Africa, The Middle East, and South East Asia resulting in mass murder, isn't taken as a sign of the nation's moral decay + US corporations using sweatshops = Silence from the US Christian right (and even support for Neo-Conservative foreign policy and Zionism).

Stating that it's OK to be transgender = rampant alarmism from the Christian right, and the nation's moral decay.

Even if I believed that transgenderism and homosexuality was a sin, I would believe that mass murder via the military industrial complex and sweatshops are a far graver moral stains on the nation.

Again though... How much time does the Christian right (or the Right in general) spend criticizing military interventionism and sweatshops, vs the LGBT movement?
Mass murder by the military industrial complex agaist foreign territories is how you build an Empire from a Republic. That doesn't weaken your interests it expands them. You bring foreign trade in on your terms and reap the spoils of victory.
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Thought that was Lita
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They aren't chicks with dicks, they're men with tits who dress up as women. A chick with a dick wouldn't be as bad as this, but you can always tell that they're men if you see one in person. And if you're still into that, you're gay.
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i smashed a chick who totalled raw elite once and that felt kinda gay
Raw elite totals for women are such a joke honestly.
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Originally Posted By saluted
Thought that was Lita
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
What do you mean 'what is the point'?

Maybe there is an assumption that the only reason why someone would date a transwoman, is if they fetishize they appearence of a chick with a dick?

And so you can't see why someone would have a non sexual fetish based attraction to a transwoman (i.e. be actually attracted to them as a person).
Don’t ****ing kid yourself dude

The majority of dudes who like transgender women want a woman with a penis whether they are a top or bottom. Sure there are a still a lot of good other benefits that make them a little better for relationships but that’s very hit or miss ime.

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with liking transgender women but we all know trans porn is the 2nd or 3rd best selling category and it’s not because of post op women
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
I don't think you you know the definitive reason why.

However, I've noticed some trends amongst men who like transwomen...

1/ Some genuinely don't care what is between their legs, if they are turned on and they look hot. I remember watching a vid of a transgirl, who was talking about when she was younger she would tell guys who asked her if she wanted to go home with them in clubs, she said that - paraphrasing - "When some straight guys are horny, as longs you look feminine and have a hole, they don't care.These guys likely don't want to touch or look at the dick during sex, but some are just indifferent to it.

2/ Some men specifically only want transwomen with a penis, and enjoy looking at, or doing sexual things with their dicks. These men will not be attracted to transwomen with surgical vaginas. For whatever reason, they find a feminine body with a penis really sexually arousing, but they also don't find masculine bodies with a penis arousing.

The men who only want transwomen with a penis, often fall into a category called 'chasers'... Men who only want transwomen for sex, and not serious dating. Basically transwomen are just a sexual fetish to them.

3/ Men who will are turned off by a transwoman having a penis, but are open to dating a transwoman with a surgical vagina. The don't care if someone is born a woman, or has transitioned to become a woman.

Directly addressing the question...

Why date transwomen, if cis-women are available to date?

Maybe the transwoman ticks all the personality boxes, and the men fall into one of the 3 categories that I've mentioned. Some men just like femininity, and don't care if they are born that way, or acquire it through hormones and surgery.

Imagine that you worked with a girl that looked like this...



And you got along great with her, and found out that you shared the same values, interests and sense of humour... But then found out that she had a dick (she actually does, BTW)... You would likely say "No, thanks."

However, I think there are a lot of guys who would be - if they didn't fear the disapproval of their peers - like "It isn't... But I really like her, so I'll want to see where this can go..."




Yes.

This thread is not a personal, even though a number of people try to make it personal... "LOL you're a *******, just accept it."

I've already explained my reasons for making this thread.
It's like I said, there will be men who might be caught in a situation where they will have sex with a tranny or caught in such a situation as a one time thing. Doesn't mean they're gay. But when it becomes a habitual thing, something they seek out, then it becomes more than a situation of circumstance. It's an underlying issue with one's sexuality that said person has not fully come to terms yet.

People who are straight do not have a fetish for fukking males regardless of how much they look like a woman. Something in our wiring prevents us from finding it appealing. But I also believe that there are all sorts of sexual desires that some people have that are odd as hell as well. Difference is, when somebody fukks a sheep, they don't pretend they're doing anything but fukking a sheep.
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
It's like I said, there will be men who might be caught in a situation where they will have sex with a tranny or caught in such a situation as a one time thing. Doesn't mean they're gay. But when it becomes a habitual thing, something they seek out, then it becomes more than a situation of circumstance. It's an underlying issue with one's sexuality that said person has not fully come to terms yet.

People who are straight do not have a fetish for fukking males regardless of how much they look like a woman. Something in our wiring prevents us from finding it appealing. But I also believe that there are all sorts of sexual desires that some people have that are odd as hell as well. Difference is, when somebody fukks a sheep, they don't pretend they're doing anything but fukking a sheep.
Disagree a little bit
about the last part but this was my exact point about post ops. The guys who say they love transwomen don’t seek out post ops lmao.

I don’t see them as males or think it’s gay but you’re not 100% straight. Society just hasn’t come up with a label for it so they first thing people jump to is “ that guys a homo”.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Mass murder by the military industrial complex agaist foreign territories is how you build an Empire from a Republic. That doesn't weaken your interests it expands them. You bring foreign trade in on your terms and reap the spoils of victory.
Are you arguing that the pragmatism makes it moral?

You are OK with mass murder, but not OK with the acceptance of Trangenderism?
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Originally Posted By dogorman7
The guys who say they love transwomen don’t seek out post ops lmao.
Some do, but they are in the minority.

There is post op transwomen porn, it has a market.
I don’t see them as males or think it’s gay but you’re not 100% straight. Society just hasn’t come up with a label for it so they first thing people jump to is “ that guys a homo”.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
Actually no. It's an innate belief cultured through millennia of civilization that has been used to build strong thriving communities.

When a civilization becomes "enlightened" and believes its people should be free to participate in all the degeneracy they desire its the beginning of the end for that civilization.
You're definitely making a huge jump here.

Do you take this stance on alcohol? I mean if there's a thread about alcohol, do you comment on how it's degenerate behaviour and bad for society? Or do you not see drinking alcohol as degenerate behaviour, but a freedom of choice?

Banging trannies isn't civilization ending behaviour. It's not harmful in it of itself, the only thing harmful is the stigma attached. Back in the day they said the same thing about gays, now I'm pretty sure the average gay is doing better for society than the average straight person, can't say for certain though. You're acting like these alternative people out there breathing aids on everyone and sticking them with dirty needles any chance they get.

Couldn't you imagine a future where eventually there is no stigma, they work 9-5's like the majority of people, pay taxes.. the only difference is they wear clothes of the opposite sex, and have the demeanour of the opposite sex... and occasionally get dicked down by some Chad because it makes them happy?

I don't see why you think this is civilisation ending behaviour, I think that's an incredible jump to be making. Wearing dresses, suckin a dick or two? Oh fuk, game over... civilisation is doomed. I just don't see it.

Cliffs -
Do you feel the same way about alcohol, or do you see that as a freedom of choice? Should alcohol be abolished?
Why does a guy wearing a dress and suckin dick = end of civilisation?
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Originally Posted By dogorman7
Disagree a little bit
about the last part but this was my exact point about post ops. The guys who say they love transwomen don’t seek out post ops lmao.

I don’t see them as males or think it’s gay but you’re not 100% straight. Society just hasn’t come up with a label for it so they first thing people jump to is “ that guys a homo”.
Well, the thing that's always been curious to me is - why are men who love trannies so opposed to being called gay? Seems to me that it really seems to affect their psyche.
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
It's like I said, there will be men who might be caught in a situation where they will have sex with a tranny or caught in such a situation as a one time thing. Doesn't mean they're gay. But when it becomes a habitual thing, something they seek out, then it becomes more than a situation of circumstance.It's an underlying issue with one's sexuality that said person has not fully come to terms yet.
Why is it an 'issue'?
People who are straight do not have a fetish for fukking males regardless of how much they look like a woman. Something in our wiring prevents us from finding it appealing.
It doesn't seem like it's 'wiring' it seems like it's more mental.

If you didn't know they were transwomen, you would go through life not feeling bad about finding some a pic of a transwoman attractive.

Like we've established, people will feel lust for transwomen in pics until they find out they are transwomen... So I don't see how it's 'wiring'.
Difference is, when somebody fukks a sheep, they don't pretend they're doing anything but fukking a sheep.
OK... The men who bang transwomen, are clear that they are banging transwomen... So your point doesn't stand.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
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the alt-straight lifestyle is about making fun of caring about sexuality labels brah.

that camgirl's slogan was:

"it's not gay, it's alt-straight. unless you don't tip, then it's gay."

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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
Why is it an 'issue'?



It doesn't seem like it's 'wiring' it seems like it's more mental.

If you didn't know they were transwomen, you would go through life not feeling bad about finding some a pic of a transwoman attractive.

Like we've established, people will feel lust for transwomen in pics until they find out they are transwomen... So I don't see how it's 'wiring'.



OK... The men who bang transwomen, are clear that they are banging transwomen... So your point doesn't stand.
A straight guy can be attracted to a picture of a woman in a picture. However, if upon finding out that said person in picture is a tranny and that guy still wants to **** it or is still attracted, then that person might have some underlying issues they have not come to terms yet.

When I say "issues", I don't mean it as if it's wrong to be gay, bi, tranny lover, etc. People should do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. I just find it funny tranny lovers will go through mental gymnastics to convince themselves there's nothing gay about what they do.
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
Well, the thing that's always been curious to me is - why are men who love trannies so opposed to being called gay? Seems to me that it really seems to affect their psyche.
A few reason I've come up with...

1)It's not an accurate label.

For example, the porn industry has the data (I used to market porn) that Transwomen porn does not sell well on gay sites, it sells best when advertised along straight porn.

Gay men like to see masculine bodies and dick, they aren't interested in feminine bodies with a dick.

Based on the misc's reasoning, 'then they aren't really gay".

When they are called gay, they are group int with a bunch of people who like Twinks and Bears, masculine bodies with penis. Which definitely does not reflect what they find sexually attractive.

The majority of men into transwomen are only attracted to cis-women and transwomen, they aren't attracted to cis-men and transmen.

Most people's psyche rebels against being misidentified. For example, I'm sure you would get pissed off if everyone everyone around you kept referring to you srsly as a communist, when you are not.


2)Being called gay is seen as a bad thing.

There is a lot of homophobia amongst straight men, and even being an effeminate male who is straight is licence to some men to treat you like crap for 'being a ***'.

People labelled gay are generally treated worse in society (although right wingers tend to judge how minorities are treated, based on depictions in media) in comparison to being straight. Being labelled gay lowers your status in the eyes of straight male society - you will be seen as worse.

Most people's psyche fights against the idea of having their status lowered, or anything that may be a threat to their well-being.

3)They don't see transwomen as men.

Transwomen - with hormones and surgery - don't resemble cis-men, and nor do they have the social experience of cis-men.


Nor are they - the guys who like them - attracted to masculine bodies.
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post 1586064921 08-16-2019, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
I just find it funny tranny lovers will go through mental gymnastics to convince themselves there's nothing gay about what they do.
It's true there's a lot of boyo's in denial.

But you've gotta admit, there's a clear difference between being attracted to some big hairy bastard of a man... and being attracted to some smooth petite feminine specimen.

Words are supposed to mean something, labelling both of the above examples as "Gay" doesn't give a clear enough label on the sexual orientation of the person. The average person will jump at that and think it means they want to suck big Dave's cawk and get railed... when it's the complete opposite.

So basically, the word/label doesn't represent clearly enough the thing it's supposed to.

It's like putting a label on an apple that has the text "orange", the label clearly doesn't represent what most of us think of when we think of an apple.

edit: strong label wizard ^
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Originally Posted By markkillerings
A straight guy can be attracted to a picture of a woman in a picture. However, if upon finding out that said person in picture is a tranny and that guy still wants to **** it or is still attracted,
Then how is it based on wiring then, if the attraction only goes after finding that out?
When I say "issues", I don't mean it as if it's wrong to be gay, bi, tranny lover, etc. People should do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody else..
What do you mean by 'issue' then?
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