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Originally Posted By CopeyDan
Vegetarian crew.

Made the switch 5 months ago, much easier than I thought it would be and suggest everyone at least tries it for a week instead of just saying "HURRR BUT MUH STEAK"

Ignorant fuks
5 months and you already sound like them by calling others ignorant instead of trying to explain your side peacefully. **** off this is why there's so much backlash when yall open your mouth.
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I'm sure the vast majority of the longest living humans were NOT vegans or even vegetarians.
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The answer is simple - 'cause it tastes friggin' good... and meat eaters will use any excuse to keep eating it.
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Originally Posted By LouiePiper
With a million studies showing vegans live longer than meat eaters.
And also the biggest cause of climate change is eating meat.

Oh and not mention the suffering and torture of animals every second of the day because of it.

You would have to be a real f*cking retard to keep eating meat.
This is true, but the majority of people don't want it to be true.

It's quite comical.
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Judge convicts parents after baby dies from Vegan diet
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The Belgian infant died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

By Mitchell Sunderland
Jun 15 2017, 11:00amShareTweet

PHOTO BY MICHELA RAVASIO VIA STOCKSY

This week Belgian judge Mieke Butstraen sentenced two parents to a suspended six-month jail sentence over the death of their seven-month-old baby Lucas. The couple owned a health food store in Beveren and fed the child vegetable milk made of "oak, buckwheat, rice, and quinoa," according to the BBC. He died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

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The conviction comes after a series of cases that put vegan parenting in international headlines. After his ex-wife forced their child to eat vegetarian, a father took her to an Italian court in May 2015. Two other Italian parents lost custody of their 14-month old last June over their child's vegan diet. Fatebenfratelli Hospital's doctors believed the baby lacked fundamental nutrients, worsening his unrelated congenital heart condition, but the couple refused to follow doctors' orders and diversify his food.

Experts believe it's difficult to feed an infant a balanced vegan diet. "It is possible to feed a baby a vegan diet, but you need to plan carefully to ensure the baby is getting enough nutrients of concern," the British Nutrition Foundation's Dr. Lucy Chambers previously told Broadly. "The risks of nutrient deficiencies are much higher [on a vegan diet]. It is possible to feed a baby a healthy, balanced diet that is also vegan, but you need to be very well informed."

Read more: Couple Loses Custody of Malnourished Baby After Feeding Him Vegan Diet

The latest veggie parents' defense attorney, Karine Van Meirvenne, argued that the family's story was more complicated. The mother failed to lactate, but when offered milk formula, they said the baby declined, so they presumed he was lactose or gluten intolerant.

CBS News reported that the father, identified as Peter S during the case, offered a contradictory statement in court: "We never went with Lucas to a doctor because we never noticed anything unusual." Prosecutors allege that the couple traveled across the country to see a homeopathic specialist, a.k.a. a natural doctor, and neither a social worker nor a regular doctor had ever seen Lucas.

ADVERTISEMENT

Lawmakers have increasingly grown wary of parents seeking alternative health care for children; California legislators battled conspiratorial anti-vaxxers when they passed a law revoking religious and personal exemptions for vaccinations in 2015. Most parents have good intentions for their kids. Lucas's mother, Sandrina V, insisted to the court, "Sometimes he gained a little weight, sometimes he lost a little. We never wished for the death of our son."

Some worry that these convictions are indicative of a terrifying future of policing every aspect of parenting, especially at a time when women are being imprisoned for miscarrying. But the Belgian judge gave a stark reminder that whatever a parents' intentions, they are ultimately responsible for their child's health and wellbeing.

"The [death was the] result of the systematic offer of food which was not suitable," he argued. "His health was seriously impeded, and he eventually died."
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Originally Posted By Ace
Judge convicts parents after baby dies from Vegan diet
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The Belgian infant died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

By Mitchell Sunderland
Jun 15 2017, 11:00amShareTweet

PHOTO BY MICHELA RAVASIO VIA STOCKSY

This week Belgian judge Mieke Butstraen sentenced two parents to a suspended six-month jail sentence over the death of their seven-month-old baby Lucas. The couple owned a health food store in Beveren and fed the child vegetable milk made of "oak, buckwheat, rice, and quinoa," according to the BBC. He died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

ADVERTISEMENT

The conviction comes after a series of cases that put vegan parenting in international headlines. After his ex-wife forced their child to eat vegetarian, a father took her to an Italian court in May 2015. Two other Italian parents lost custody of their 14-month old last June over their child's vegan diet. Fatebenfratelli Hospital's doctors believed the baby lacked fundamental nutrients, worsening his unrelated congenital heart condition, but the couple refused to follow doctors' orders and diversify his food.

Experts believe it's difficult to feed an infant a balanced vegan diet. "It is possible to feed a baby a vegan diet, but you need to plan carefully to ensure the baby is getting enough nutrients of concern," the British Nutrition Foundation's Dr. Lucy Chambers previously told Broadly. "The risks of nutrient deficiencies are much higher [on a vegan diet]. It is possible to feed a baby a healthy, balanced diet that is also vegan, but you need to be very well informed."

Read more: Couple Loses Custody of Malnourished Baby After Feeding Him Vegan Diet

The latest veggie parents' defense attorney, Karine Van Meirvenne, argued that the family's story was more complicated. The mother failed to lactate, but when offered milk formula, they said the baby declined, so they presumed he was lactose or gluten intolerant.

CBS News reported that the father, identified as Peter S during the case, offered a contradictory statement in court: "We never went with Lucas to a doctor because we never noticed anything unusual." Prosecutors allege that the couple traveled across the country to see a homeopathic specialist, a.k.a. a natural doctor, and neither a social worker nor a regular doctor had ever seen Lucas.

ADVERTISEMENT

Lawmakers have increasingly grown wary of parents seeking alternative health care for children; California legislators battled conspiratorial anti-vaxxers when they passed a law revoking religious and personal exemptions for vaccinations in 2015. Most parents have good intentions for their kids. Lucas's mother, Sandrina V, insisted to the court, "Sometimes he gained a little weight, sometimes he lost a little. We never wished for the death of our son."

Some worry that these convictions are indicative of a terrifying future of policing every aspect of parenting, especially at a time when women are being imprisoned for miscarrying. But the Belgian judge gave a stark reminder that whatever a parents' intentions, they are ultimately responsible for their child's health and wellbeing.

"The [death was the] result of the systematic offer of food which was not suitable," he argued. "His health was seriously impeded, and he eventually died."
phuck this gay earth. There's also retarded vegans that feed their dogs/cats a vegan diet
post 1586925141 08-29-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Ace
Judge convicts parents after baby dies from Vegan diet
*************************

The Belgian infant died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

By Mitchell Sunderland
Jun 15 2017, 11:00amShareTweet

PHOTO BY MICHELA RAVASIO VIA STOCKSY

This week Belgian judge Mieke Butstraen sentenced two parents to a suspended six-month jail sentence over the death of their seven-month-old baby Lucas. The couple owned a health food store in Beveren and fed the child vegetable milk made of "oak, buckwheat, rice, and quinoa," according to the BBC. He died weighing nine pounds, which is at least seven pounds underweight according to CDC numbers, and had organs that shrunk to half their normal size.

ADVERTISEMENT

The conviction comes after a series of cases that put vegan parenting in international headlines. After his ex-wife forced their child to eat vegetarian, a father took her to an Italian court in May 2015. Two other Italian parents lost custody of their 14-month old last June over their child's vegan diet. Fatebenfratelli Hospital's doctors believed the baby lacked fundamental nutrients, worsening his unrelated congenital heart condition, but the couple refused to follow doctors' orders and diversify his food.

Experts believe it's difficult to feed an infant a balanced vegan diet. "It is possible to feed a baby a vegan diet, but you need to plan carefully to ensure the baby is getting enough nutrients of concern," the British Nutrition Foundation's Dr. Lucy Chambers previously told Broadly. "The risks of nutrient deficiencies are much higher [on a vegan diet]. It is possible to feed a baby a healthy, balanced diet that is also vegan, but you need to be very well informed."

Read more: Couple Loses Custody of Malnourished Baby After Feeding Him Vegan Diet

The latest veggie parents' defense attorney, Karine Van Meirvenne, argued that the family's story was more complicated. The mother failed to lactate, but when offered milk formula, they said the baby declined, so they presumed he was lactose or gluten intolerant.

CBS News reported that the father, identified as Peter S during the case, offered a contradictory statement in court: "We never went with Lucas to a doctor because we never noticed anything unusual." Prosecutors allege that the couple traveled across the country to see a homeopathic specialist, a.k.a. a natural doctor, and neither a social worker nor a regular doctor had ever seen Lucas.

ADVERTISEMENT

Lawmakers have increasingly grown wary of parents seeking alternative health care for children; California legislators battled conspiratorial anti-vaxxers when they passed a law revoking religious and personal exemptions for vaccinations in 2015. Most parents have good intentions for their kids. Lucas's mother, Sandrina V, insisted to the court, "Sometimes he gained a little weight, sometimes he lost a little. We never wished for the death of our son."

Some worry that these convictions are indicative of a terrifying future of policing every aspect of parenting, especially at a time when women are being imprisoned for miscarrying. But the Belgian judge gave a stark reminder that whatever a parents' intentions, they are ultimately responsible for their child's health and wellbeing.

"The [death was the] result of the systematic offer of food which was not suitable," he argued. "His health was seriously impeded, and he eventually died."
If vegan diets are so healthy, why are babies dying from it?
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post 1586925161 08-29-2019, 07:19 PM
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The ideal human diet doesn't give a CHIT about ethics. Many other animal's diets don't either.

Studies can say whatever they want to say. A vegan by definition is an extremely health conscious individual, to compare them to 'everybody else' does not control for multiple other factors. If it were so obviously terrible for us and out of place in our diet,allhumans would have stopped eating meat thousands of years ago.
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99% of scientists agree that eating less meat will combat the climate change (and is healthier too) but for some reason people here just ignore them. Are people here just dumb? They would rather believe a Youtube video instead of actual scientists who ALL agree on the same thing.
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I'm going to kill your precious animals this hunting season
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Because these "scientific studies" aren't worth the paper their written on and everyone knows it whether consciously or subconsciously, the whole game is controlled, the elites who give the money want their agenda pushed only offer "$$$$ GRANTS" to scientists and universities who give them the results they want. Otherwise they get no money and starve to death because they cant feed their families.

Universities are also political hot beds of left wing activism so coming up with anything but "climate change is real" is akin to nazism.

Use your brain for fuk sake OP.


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IDK.

Personally don't have any beef with "less meat crew" or "responsible humane meat" crew.

Growing crops with a bunch of water, fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides to raise cattle is awfully inefficient as far as energy input to energy (calories) output. Then we have a lot of waste above that too. So, yeah, reducing your consumption of those products is completely reasonable.

OTOH a lot of land isn't suited for crops, but is good for grazing herds. Raising food animals on that land makes sense. Hunting and trapping are kind of the same thing as long as good wildlife management is in force.
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Originally Posted By Eugenics
Because these "scientific studies" aren't worth the paper their written on and everyone knows it whether consciously or subconsciously, the whole game is controlled, the elites who give the money want their agenda pushed only offer "$$$$ GRANTS" to scientists and universities who give them the results they want. Otherwise they get know money and starve to death because they cant feed their families.

Universities are also political hot beds of left wing activism so coming up with anything but "climate change is real" is akin to nazism.

Use your brain for fuk sake OP.


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That's cool and all OP, but have you ever eaten bacon? It's fukking delicious...
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Originally Posted By LouiePiper
With a million studies showing vegans live longer than meat eaters.
And also the biggest cause of climate change is eating meat.

Oh and not mention the suffering and torture of animals every second of the day because of it.

You would have to be a real f*cking retard to keep eating meat.
Humans are omnivores.

Just because you can survive on only plants with a lot of planning, doesnt mean its a great idea.
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Originally Posted By Eugenics
Because these "scientific studies" aren't worth the paper their written on and everyone knows it whether consciously or subconsciously, the whole game is controlled, the elites who give the money want their agenda pushed only offer "$$$$ GRANTS" to scientists and universities who give them the results they want. Otherwise they get know money and starve to death because they cant feed their families.

Universities are also political hot beds of left wing activism so coming up with anything but "climate change is real" is akin to nazism.

Use your brain for fuk sake OP.


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This.

You can always spot the liberal arts rejects who claim to love "science" when they couldnt hack it in STEM but are just regurgitating MSM and liberal media talking points. Research is completely controlled by the funding. If it is not an idea the liberal colleges want, it doesnt get funding.
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Originally Posted By LouiePiper
99% of scientists agree that eating less meat will combat the climate change (and is healthier too) but for some reason people here just ignore them. Are people here just dumb? They would rather believe a Youtube video instead of actual scientists who ALL agree on the same thing.
lol regurgitation. You couldnt hack it in STEM. "look at me I read an article in MSM that said scientist said something"


Scientist also say you are an omnivore with canine teeth made for ripping apart the flesh of other animals. But keep selectively choosing bits and pieces of "science" for political reasons and presenting it as an apolitical universal truth.
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We didn't ignore this study

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Pretty sure suburbia & the interstate is worse for the environment than eating meat lmao.
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Same reason you eat jizz when millions of studies show its gay
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1. Meat is delicious
2. Protein
3. Generations prior (your grandparents for instance) live/lived into their 70's, 80's, beyond eating meat. Lol if you truly feel like the off chance of adding 5-10 years means that much.
4. Genetic makeup will generally determine your lifespan regardless
5. Life is too fukkin short to not enjoy yourself, and that goes for ANYTHING.
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Originally Posted By LouiePiper
With a million studies showing vegans live longer than meat eaters.
And also the biggest cause of climate change is eating meat.

Oh and not mention the suffering and torture of animals every second of the day because of it.

You would have to be a real f*cking retard to keep eating meat.
Because vegan is an unhealthy diet, if you don't believe me, look it up
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This 44 year old woman has eaten predominately nothing but Ribeye steaks for the last 19 years...


Charlene Andersen, Age 44



http://meatheals.com/2018/02/04/charlene-andersen/


(snip from article)

The fish and oil diet was the first diet I can remember being the first try at a zero carb diet. It relieved a lot of my symptoms, but not all (still had amenhorrea, edema, trichotillomania, acne, eczema and excess weight). We probably spent about a year experimenting beginning with the fish and oil diet, quickly switching to free range eggs and poultry, and occasional lamb and beef.


Charlene's journals tracking every reaction to every meal


As SOON as I switched to animal fat as my fat source instead of “healthy” oils, I ovulated and had a period two weeks later. I couldn’t believe it!!! Why in the WORLD didn’t someone tell me years ago about the importance of animal fat?!?


I’ve been more regular since then than I ever was as a young teenager. I’ve had two healthy boys (no complications for me; home births too; mid-wife with Charlie and unassisted with George)!



Charlene before carnivore, age 25



Charlene after 19 years of carnivore, age 44, enjoying the sun.
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because you can also find a million studies showing it's good
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