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post 1589400541 10-09-2019, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
I responded lol, you just are unable to read for whatever reason.
You're a liar. Post #94, you obviously avoided responding to my questions. Go ahead and answer them. I'll wait.
Hilarious how triggered these people are because someone doesn't agree with them and belieeeeeeeeeve.
Don't be a hypocrite. You lied and used adhomien attacks because you got upset at my questions.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
Seeing as you have more than half the posts here and it is basically your thread, please speculate.

- without some chickensh*t 'I wont waste my enlightened intelligence on you conspiracy theorists' copout
- without quoting Sagan
- without invoking Occam's Razor
- no copy-pasting from rationalwiki.org
- without attacking people

give us your opinion on the rational logical terrestrial explanation (you referred to multiple times above) for what we are seeing on these 3 videos.
could be like a fancier lockheed mkv with a legitimate fuselage (mkv-L program?)

the stabilizing thrusters could have thrown off the typical flir signature, as it would appear more like a halo than a single jet. i think ABC's do mach5?

this.




plus this.



launched from a sub.

it's known that the mkv program was gonna be possibly be used for ground based icbm interception

there's one seemingly plausible possibility but maybe it is spacemen.

im sure my theory will be shot to shiit because of PHYSICS

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note the commentary @ 0:41s

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Originally Posted By engj⏩


A post can't go by without more Rational hot fire coming out of you, who's triggered here?


To be completely fair to you, I have read your posts. The problem most people are having with you personally, outside the douchey internet pseudointellectual edgelord tone that most self proclaimed rational skeptics seem to have, is that you aren't proposing any explanation or adding to the discussion.

You are just chitting on anything with CANT BE THAT E X T R A O R D A N A I R Y E V I D E N C E OCCAMS RAZOR !!!1!!1!



In your own words:






















Seeing as you have more than half the posts here and it is basically your thread, please speculate.

- without some chickensh*t 'I wont waste my enlightened intelligence on you conspiracy theorists' copout
- without quoting Sagan
- without invoking Occam's Razor
- no copy-pasting from rationalwiki.org
- without attacking people.
Lmfao!

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post 1589402721 10-09-2019, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
could be like a fancier lockheed mkv with a legitimate fuselage (mkv-L program?)

the stabilizing thrusters could have thrown off the typical flir signature, as it would appear more like a halo than a single jet. i think ABC's do mach5?

this.




plus this.



launched from a sub.

it's known that the mkv program was gonna be possibly be used for ground based icbm interception

there's one seemingly plausible possibility but maybe it is spacemen.

im sure my theory will be shot to shiit because of PHYSICS
Thing is nasty looking. Super-reactive stabilizing thrusters like that could explain how they seem to station-keep in windy areas.


After hearing Elon talk about the Tesla Roadster thrusters I was thinking the lack of variation on the FLIR signature could be some form of cold-gas thruster like they use on the MMUs.

How much compressed gas could a 40 ft canister hold? I cant see storing enough for sustained mach speed, and you would think there would be some kind of heat or cryo signature showing up with that much being expelled.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
Thing is nasty looking. Super-reactive stabilizing thrusters like that could explain how they seem to station-keep in windy areas.


After hearing Elon talk about the Tesla Roadster thrusters I was thinking the lack of variation on the FLIR signature could be some form of cold-gas thruster like they use on the MMUs.

How much compressed gas could a 40 ft canister hold? I cant see storing enough for sustained mach speed, and you would think there would be some kind of heat or cryo signature showing up with that much being expelled.
idk missiles do it. maybe tandem engines (one to go and one or more to stabilize), but there goes my flir theory.

edit- my idea would be like, the thrusters are radial to the body, so the sig would appear faint and thus atypical.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
idk missiles do it. maybe tandem engines (one to go and one or more to stabilize), but there goes my flir theory.
What could block a heat signature? The reports on the east coast ones say they have a halo or 'invisible beachball' looking thing around them. Stealth craft have developed a lot of tech around masking or minimizing heat signatures. Is there anyway to disperse or project coolant, some super accurate method of it to mask heat? It would need to be a huge amount to offset the heat needed to create that much thrust.

Sounds crazy but I am thinking active heat signature suppression like active noise cancelling. I know with stealth craft they can still detect the heat signature in the flight path after it's passed, so IDK if anything exists that can hide that much energy.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
What could block a heat signature? .
only a physical barrier where heat cant transfer, so idk how it would work

some cold propulsion would be simpler (edit- simpler explanation, no clue if it exists). there's cold propulsion but afaik only on a small scale and not for real speeds.

edit

what is the chances that the beach balls are cube sats getting tested inside of a zorb full of helium?





this how you would want to test it so it doesnt bust, idk. the cubesats have the cold propulsion but they are not powerful, just for maintaining orbit.

the more im in the thread the more im inclined to believe the eyewitnesses lmao
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post 1589405651 10-09-2019, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
Seeing as you have more than half the posts here and it is basically your thread, please speculate.
The majority of my posts in here are for the lol's, it's kind of funny how the UFO cultists get so triggered. There are plenty of thinking miscers who have repped my above posts, so at least they get it.

You have a whole bunch of posts in here as well, all so concerned that someone might just not be gullible enough to believe every last word coming from some military dude and conclude "Aliens!". I mean almost obsessed with my posts, kinda weird.....

If one makes a reference to words regarding the virtues of skepticism from an accomplished scientist in Sagan who has written books about the subject (the book above is highly recommended btw), it's immediate personal attacks from the randos posting on the misc lol. Maybe one day people can grow up to have > 10,000 posts on a bodybuulding forum like you and the great mailman Busta, who I have on ignore. I do find it amusing that Sagan is still triggering the "I want to believe" crowd all these years out

lol I simply don't believe this is an alien UFO. Deal with it boyo
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post 1589406171 10-09-2019, 11:53 AM
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I wonder what percentage of people who don't believe in aliens/ufos actually believe in a God
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
The majority of my posts in here are for the lol's, it's kind of funny how the UFO cultists get so triggered. There are plenty of thinking miscers who have repped my above posts, so at least they get it.

You have a whole bunch of posts in here as well, all so concerned that someone might just not be gullible enough to believe every last word coming from some military dude and conclude "Aliens!". I mean almost obsessed with my posts, kinda weird.....

If one makes a reference to words regarding the virtues of skepticism from an accomplished scientist in Sagan who has written books about the subject (the book above is highly recommended btw), it's immediate personal attacks from the randos posting on the misc lol. Maybe one day people can grow up to have > 10,000 posts on a bodybuulding forum like you and the great mailman Busta, who I have on ignore. I do find it amusing that Sagan is still triggering the "I want to believe" crowd all these years out

lol I simply don't believe this is an alien UFO. Deal with it boyo
I didn't ask you if you beleeeeeeived in aliens, I didnt ask you to suck the dick of an airforce pilot. Stop stacking up strawmen. And you should go back and look, the personal attacks started with you.

Since you ducked the question I will reiterate:
Originally Posted By engj⏩
- without some chickensh*t 'I wont waste my enlightened intelligence on you conspiracy theorists' copout<------- you just did this
- without quoting Sagan<------- you just did this too
- without invoking Occam's Razor
- no copy-pasting from rationalwiki.org
- without attacking people<------- you just did this too

give us your opinion on the rational logical terrestrial explanation (you referred to multiple times above) for what we are seeing on these 3 videos.
You stated a number of times there are multiple rational explainable terrestrial reasons for what we are discussing, for a self-proclaimed intellectual you are being pretty intellectually lazy not addressing the question.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
I didn't ask you if you beleeeeeeived in aliens, I didnt ask you to suck the dick of an airforce pilot. Stop stacking up strawmen. And you should go back and look, the personal attacks started with you.

Since you ducked the question I will reiterate:




You stated a number of times there are multiple rational explainable terrestrial reasons for what we are discussing, for a self-proclaimed intellectual you are being pretty intellectually lazy not addressing the question.
If you havent noticed, I already said it's not worth my time arguing the content itself to people who are seemingly unable to comprehend posts. I'm just posting in this thread now for the lol's. Nothing have changed regarding my stance, and apparently a lot of people out there seem to agree: it's best to be skeptical about such extraordinary claims.

I realize you're triggered. Honestly I don't care what you believe. If you want to be gullible, believe in UFOs or whatever, go for it. But you seem to really care whatIbelieve or don't believe (lol....weird flex).

Also, I'm not the one going on about intellectualism- that's all you boyo. Where did I self-proclaim to be an intellectual ITT? I personally was always of the camp that the notion of "intellectualism/genius/smart/IQ" is pretty much a joke.

Whatever the case, eh, this thread has become uninteresting.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
If you havent noticed, I already said it's not worth my time arguing the content itself to people who are seemingly unable to comprehend posts. I'm just posting in this thread now for the lol's. Nothing have changed regarding my stance, and apparently a lot of people out there seem to agree: it's best to be skeptical about such extraordinary claims.

I realize you're triggered. Honestly I don't care what you believe. If you want to be gullible, believe in UFOs or whatever, go for it. But you seem to really care whatIbelieve or don't believe (lol....weird flex).

Also, I'm not the one going on about intellectualism- that's all you boyo. Where did I self-proclaim to be an intellectual ITT? I personally was always of the camp that the notion of "intellectualism/genius/smart/IQ" is pretty much a joke.

Whatever the case, eh, this thread has become uninteresting.
You spend half of your essays in this thread aligning yourself in tone and in message with Sagan and others. You don't need to type the words "As an intellectual..." for others to read it, your tone is dripping with it.

And this is what I meant by a lazy cop-out response. You hit all the beats:

- I have answers, but you are unable to comprehend so I am not telling you
- I am not posting any speculation because I am only posting in this thread for lols
- You are triggered and gullible, you are obviously suffering from some obsession
- As I am above this discussion it has become uninteresting therefore I must leave.


I actually wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Where I work we execute a lot of engineering projects that have either never been done, or in places that it has never been done. I'm being deliberately vague because of how specific a focus we have corporately. I see these 'thought blocks' in a lot of the young STEM types that I manage where they refuse to move forward on a problem. There are a lot of really smart people that fall into the trap of needing a complete understanding of an issue before they are prepared to discuss it with a group. The idea of throwing ideas and thought experiments up on the wall for others to probe/attack scares people off, but it's so important as a problem solving exercise.

Early discussion without complete understanding helps guide focus to obvious problems and counter-intuitively saves a lot of wasted time, and I've seen a lot of innovation come out of people patching the holes in someone else's crazy idea, so it gets my back up if I see someone trying to smother or shut down crazy discussion.
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
You spend half of your essays in this thread aligning yourself in tone and in message with Sagan and others. You don't need to type the words "As an intellectual..." for others to read it, your tone is dripping with it.

And this is what I meant by a lazy cop-out response. You hit all the beats:

- I have answers, but you are unable to comprehend so I am not telling you
- I am not posting any speculation because I am only posting in this thread for lols
- You are triggered and gullible, you are obviously suffering from some obsession
- As I am above this discussion it has become uninteresting therefore I must leave.


I actually wasn't trying to be a dick about it. Where I work we execute a lot of engineering projects that have either never been done, or in places that it has never been done. I'm being deliberately vague because of how specific a focus we have corporately. I see these 'thought blocks' in a lot of the young STEM types that I manage where they refuse to move forward on a problem. There are a lot of really smart people that fall into the trap of needing a complete understanding of an issue before they are prepared to discuss it with a group. The idea of throwing ideas and thought experiments up on the wall for others to probe/attack scares people off, but it's so important as a problem solving exercise.

Early discussion without complete understanding helps guide focus to obvious problems and counter-intuitively saves a lot of wasted time, and I've seen a lot of innovation come out of people patching the holes in someone else's crazy idea, so it gets my back up if I see someone trying to smother or shut down crazy discussion.
Goes on about posting essays.....then posts one. Without reading most of this.....I do find it pretty hilarious how much you get all rattled up by mere names like "Sagan" or "skeptic". Dude, referencing someone's thoughts on a subject relevant to the OP topic is not something ridiculous lol. Whatever "intellectualism" nonsense you are going on about is all you....not my problem whatever conclusions you are drawing from my posts.

I mean my original post was just that this does not constitute extraordinary evidence, hence I am not jumping to the conclusion whatsoever this is an alien UFO....if you are triggered by this, so what.

My intention was never to get into a long-detailed discussion about say, the FLIR1 video itself. This is why I'm not going to entertain your questions- it's a waste of time. More detailed discussions about the content itself can be found in other forums online, not hard to search them:https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-ni...e-flir1.t9190/, it'll be all the FLIR1 footage discussion you could ever want, and even more- notice with skeptic-oriented sites, you get more detailed, interesting discussion about specific points regarding the video compared to say, this bodybuilding forum (or some type of UFO/conspiracy board....which tend to be funny, but babble, and not informative). One thing people need to realize is that Fravor's account, the supposed radar data, and infrared video itself arenotthe same things. There are plenty of bland explanations given in that thread for example. I'm not going to reinvent the wheel and go on about these particulars. I simply just said that I don't consider this good evidence for alien UFOs, and of course you got triggered by this.
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You can't hide the heat signature of a thermal propulsion system that's basically providing what would be considered impulses considering the magnitude of acceleration. You would not be able to dissipate that without also quelling the propulsion. That's why the movement characteristics suggest a creepy tech.

....unless whatever that was being ejected was being ejected extremely fast?
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What if they're not aliens, but humans from the future traveling to the past?
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
could be like a fancier lockheed mkv with a legitimate fuselage (mkv-L program?)

the stabilizing thrusters could have thrown off the typical flir signature, as it would appear more like a halo than a single jet. i think ABC's do mach5?

this.
How would that explain the fact the craft mirrored the pilot's maneuvers and then showed up at the pre-arranged cap point (the location of which was heavily guarded and encrypted) 60 miles away in a matter of seconds?

Too many people go to extreme lengths to explain these things away as terrestrial, when - as someone said earlier - Aliens is not actually THAT far fetched if you think about it.

Someone somewhere has tech that - if adopted by mainstream humanity - would change the world overnight.
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