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Thread: Which miscer? Lonely guy touches her arm, now going to jail

post 1589609981 10-12-2019, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Woah...now that i think about it ive had the exact crime happen to me. Not just the old guy with the waist thing

Girl i hardly knew grazed my arm sexually..

Lmao at all the ****s defending the girl acting like a victim. I also guess the girl that did it to me went on to be a rapist too.
So if your partner or daughter said:

On 2 separate occasions, the same dude approached and without saying a word, touched her in an unwanted way, whilst she was walking through a secluded area alone(even after the first time she told him "Stop!", and walked away), your reaction would be;"LOL, no big deal babe... I don't know why you are even thinking about!"

That wouldn't trigger any protective instinct in you? Alarm bells wouldn't start ringing in your brain?
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^^ ffs calm down. Yes he’s autistic, yes he’s a twat, yes he might have done this that or the other yadda yadda. No reason to lock him up just needs a little advice on not being creepy
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
So if your partner or daughter said:

On 2 separate occasions, the same dude approached and without saying a word, touched her in an unwanted way, whilst she was walking through a secluded area alone(even after the first time she told him "Stop!", and walked away), your reaction would be;"LOL, no big deal babe... I don't know why you are even thinking about!"

That wouldn't trigger any protective instinct in you? Alarm bells wouldn't start ringing in your brain?
Why do you feel as though youre so privvy to info when you werent there?

You realllly feel like you can label this "creepy". I say i cant rely on eithers word tbh

But i think theres plenty of touching that goes on irl that doesnt result in guys getting even the threat of 10 years in jail.

In your example id prob tell my daughter to be very clear and stern and tell him if he touches her again shell go to the cops. I think that would scare him off. If he does it again, wala, he pushed it too far.

Thats such a small thing i feel like extrapolating it to some type of other behavior is extreme nonsense. I would bet a lot of money the girl who did it to me is not a convicted rapist

If he were a rapist why didnt he rape her?

He didnt even touch something like her boobs or butt so hes on the lower end of anything physical

Like i said, im not buying either side so i find anybody swaying so hard one way or the other disingenuous. Bishes make chit up for attention you know, and the guys excuse for "making friends" sounds bad too

I get what the law is, but again, plenty people touch people throughout the day without the threat of going to jail. I wish wed just give the lawmakers what they want and let nobody touch anybody ever. Giving this haphazard definition of a decision when it is and isnt ok leaves everything open to interpretation and bias
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Why do you feel as though youre so privvy to info when you werent there?
I just explained his actions.

Everything I just stated to you is in the article.

The young man doesn't dispute what happened, he denies that there was an ominous motivaton behind his actions, he states that 'anxiety' caused his behaviour.
I d prob tell my daughter to be very clear and stern and tell him if he touches her again shell go to the cops. I think that would scare him off. If he does it again, wala, he pushed it too far.
Not every girl has is as assertive or extroverted as your (real or hypothetical) daughter.

Some people have shy and deeply introverted personalities.

Also, we don't know what the girl has gone through in the past.

She could have anxiety problems, not just the guy.

She could have had traumatic experiences (in any regard) in the past.

It's not on her to 'stand up for herself' every time he approaches her, it's on the kid not to walk up to women in secluded areas and touch them.
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post 1589611051 10-12-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
^^ ffs calm down. Yes he’s autistic, yes he’s a twat, yes he might have done this that or the other yadda yadda. No reason to lock him up just needs a little advice on not being creepy
I didn't advocate locking him up.

Like I said, CPS can prosecute without the victim's consent. A caution would have been good step IMO.

The majority of the misc ITT seems to think that the girl is a 'snowflake' because she got scared and went to the police, because a dude walked up to her on 2 seperate occasions whilst she was walking home in a secluded area, and touched her.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I just explained his actions.

Everything I just stated to you is in the article.

The young man doesn't dispute what happened, he denies that there was an ominous motivaton behind his actions, he states that 'anxiety' caused his behaviour.



No every girl has is as assertive or extroverted as you (real or hypothetical) daughter.

Some people have shy and deeply introverted personalities.

Also, we don't know what the girl has gone through in the past.

She could have anxiety problems, not just the guy.

She could have had traumatic experiences (in any regard) in the past.

It's not on her to 'stand up for herself' every time he approaches her, it's on the kid not to walk up to women in secluded areas and touch them.
Blah, blah. "Not everybody is as extroverted" - so that means men should read the women too weak to speak's mind? Else suffer her fury


Cherry picking. Do you agree with this:

"I wish wed just give the lawmakers what they want and let nobody touch anybody ever"

When and where are the lines drawn? Do men make moves? Has everybody whos ever touched someone received explicit instructions that their touching was allowed? Do women 100% just say "touch me"

You realize giving women such weldy power to such ambiguous nuances is a A LOT of power right. Im all for the lines being drawn. Im not up for things being twisted and turned as they see fit. "Joey touched me there, it was ok", "robert touched me there and i was in a bad mood and felt like ruining his life"

Oh and i wont even go into the women that play hard to get. Cause that will get completely lost
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post 1589632791 10-13-2019, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
Blah, blah. "Not everybody is as extroverted" - so that means men should read the women too weak to speak's mind? Else suffer her fury
No... It means don't go around walking up to women in secluded areas and touching them without saying a word, especially after they've already told you to stop the first time you did it.

She already said to the dude the first time "Stop!" and walked away from him. She made it clear to him that he wasn't interested. The dude came back, and did the same thing... And rightly so, she feared him coming back and doing the same thing, because he clearly disregarded her protesting his behaviour the first time.

She already spoke her mind to him,and it did nothing.
"I wish wed just give the lawmakers what they want and let nobody touch anybody ever"

When and where are the lines drawn? Do men make moves? Has everybody whos ever touched someone received explicit instructions that their touching was allowed? Do women 100% just say "touch me"

You realize giving women such weldy power to such ambiguous nuances is a A LOT of power right. Im all for the lines being drawn. Im not up for things being twisted and turned as they see fit. "Joey touched me there, it was ok", "robert touched me there and i was in a bad mood and felt like ruining his life"

Oh and i wont even go into the women that play hard to get. Cause that will get completely lost
If you're arguing for absolute rules, I don't think society can function like that. Things do need to be assess on a case by case basis, laws based in generality, but the specific of a case matter.

I think it's impractical and arrogant for anyone to create a rule, that will be applied to any and every case.

Again though... She went to the police to report the guy, but CPS can prosecute without her consent. So it's not the power that she as over him, it's the state who may have been the ones who chose to press charges.

(From personal experience, I've been prosecuted for assault by CPS, when the person I assaulted no longer had a problem with me, and wasn't the one who asked to press charges.)
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
I didn't advocate locking him up.

Like I said, CPS can prosecute without the victim's consent. A caution would have been good step IMO.

The majority of the misc ITT seems to think that the girl is a 'snowflake' because she got scared and went to the police, because a dude walked up to her on 2 seperate occasions whilst she was walking home in a secluded area, and touched her.
It would fuk his life up for the immediate future, unable to get a job etc. Yeah that’ll definitely make a good citizen of him. Stop being hysterical
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we just gonna ignore the fact that both of their stories are probably bull**** and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
It would fuk his life up for the immediate future, unable to get a job etc. Yeah that’ll definitely make a good citizen of him.
No, it won't.

I had a caution on my record for 5 years.
Stop being hysterical
Please explain specifically what is hypocritical.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
No, it won't.

I had a caution on my record for 5 years.



Please explain specifically what is hypocritical.
Can’t you read?

Although a caution is not a conviction, it forms a part of a person's criminal record and can be used as evidence of bad character if a person is prosecuted for another crime,[4][8] and Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks (previously called Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) checks) for certain types of employment.[2] A caution can cause some countries not to allow a person to visit or reside in the country.[2]
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Can’t you read?

Although a caution is not a conviction, it forms a part of a person's criminal record and can be used as evidence of bad character if a person is prosecuted for another crime,[4][8] and Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks (previously called Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) checks) for certain types of employment.[2] A caution can cause some countries not to allow a person to visit or reside in the country.[2]
Like I said... I had a caution on my record for 5 years.

Once the caution is spent, it no longer is a problem (meaning not an 'active' part of their criminal record). (Though it will show up on an Enhanced CRB, and they will question you about it... I can tell you from personal experience... However, both times it has been brought up and questioned, I ended up getting the job.)

When it's active there are options that are blocked, but that doesnt' mean that he will be unable to get a job, like you claim - that is nonsense.

What I just wrote is from personal experience... I think you're read the blurb about a caution, and have created an scenario in your head, that doesn't reflect how things work in the real world.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Like I said... I had a caution on my record for 5 years.

Once the caution is spent, it no longer is a problem (meaning not an 'active' part of their criminal record). (Though it will show up on an Enhanced CRB, and they will question you about it... I can tell you from personal experience... However, both times it has been brought up and questioned, I ended up getting the job.)

When it's active there are options that are blocked, but that doesnt' mean that he will be unable to get a job, like you claim - that is nonsense.

What I just wrote is from personal experience... I think you're read the blurb about a caution, and have created an scenario in your head, that doesn't reflect how things work in the real world.
It will typically stop him getting a job with the public, or volunteering with charities etc. Does he look like a guy with endless career options? Just calm down, no one agrees with you or is likely to
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
It will typically stop him getting a job with thevulnerable people, or volunteering with charities etc.
Fixed for you.

It won’t stop you getting a job in retail, most offices, sales, etc. The only jobs that require a DBS check involve working with young children, the elderly, or the infirmed.
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Fixed for you.

It won’t stop you getting a job in retail, most offices, sales, etc. The only jobs that require a DBS check involve working with young children, the elderly, or the infirmed.
You wouldn’t get a job at my company which doesn’t directly involve any of those.

This shouldn’t have gone near a court. He needed a talking to, off the record. If he fuks up after that, fine. Whatever his conviction/sentence now, even if cleared on appeal, he’s a google click from infamy, for life. It’s over for him.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
You wouldn’t get a job at my company which doesn’t directly involve any of those.
Relax bruh I was just correcting you on the caution thing, though I should have said “most jobs” rather than “the only jobs”.
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
This shouldn’t have gone near a court. He needed a talking to, off the record. If he fuks up after that, fine. Whatever his conviction/sentence now, even if cleared on appeal, he’s a google click from infamy, for life. It’s over for him.
Agreed.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
You wouldn’t get a job at my company which doesn’t directly involve any of those.

This shouldn’t have gone near a court. He needed a talking to, off the record. If he fuks up after that, fine. Whatever his conviction/sentence now, even if cleared on appeal, he’s a google click from infamy, for life. It’s over for him.
TBH, most of my empathy for this ends at "and then he did it again".

We've all done cringey **** that unintentionally stepped over someone's boundaries. People send anonymous flowers thinking they're being cool and not realizing they're causing the recipient to kick off thinking it's their former stalker harassing them again, etc.

We've all done clueless chitonce. Unless you're actually clinically potato, doing ittwice? There's no reason for anybody to believe you when you say you had good intentions. So maybe now global infamy will teach him not to do it a third time.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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^^ absolutely, except no one spoke to him the first time, so he practised in his bedroom and tried his new improved version of whatever it was he was trying to do..
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
TBH, most of my empathy for this ends at "and then he did it again".

We've all done cringey **** that unintentionally stepped over someone's boundaries. People send anonymous flowers thinking they're being cool and not realizing they're causing the recipient to kick off thinking it's their former stalker harassing them again, etc.

We've all done clueless chitonce. Unless you're actually clinically potato, doing ittwice? There's no reason for anybody to believe you when you say you had good intentions. So maybe now global infamy will teach him not to do it a third time.
Jesus Christ we have some harsh taskmasters in this thread...

By your assessment, most people in the world are clinically potato.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
It will typically stop him getting a job with the public, or volunteering with charities etc.
No, it won't... Unless the job is contingent on having a clear CRB check. That is it not the majority of jobs where you interact with the public. Like I said... I am speaking from experience, as someone who had a 5 year caution on their record, and still was able to find employment during those times with 3 different jobs.

You can get public facing job even with a criminal record, it will likely stop him from going into caring professions or working with vulnerable (which is a good thing... If he didn't realize the first time that someone saying "Stop" and pulling away from him, is a sign that his behaviour is unwanted and scary, then he doesn't have the necessary social skills to work with vulnerable people).
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
^^ absolutely, except no one spoke to him the first time, .
Do you believe that she should have gone to the police after the first time?
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Sucks that kid wasn't protected in any way. The Police and authorities turned a blind eye for YEARS at the Muslim run child prostitution ring in the North, as doing anything would be seen as 'racist'. However an awkward, socially unaware teenager with no apparently devious intentions is ripe for the picking.

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Originally Posted By alltrapbrah⏩
Jesus Christ we have some harsh taskmasters in this thread...

By your assessment, most people in the world are clinically potato.
Seriously? Somebody runs away in fear, so you find them later and do the same thing over again, and it's everybody else who's being harsh?

Unless this dude's way more of an autiste than the story is letting on - like "it's a miracle he's made it this far in school" autistic - most people would realize that if they call somebody and the recipient hangs up on them in anger, that calling them back isn't going to go well.
Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
^^ absolutely, except no one spoke to him the first time, so he practised in his bedroom and tried his new improved version of whatever it was he was trying to do..
With the same friggin' chick?

You can't tell me you don't realize he was certainly waiting for her, specifically. The usual term for that is "stalking".

Again, you've have to be close to "special needs" levels of disabled to not realize that you should try introducing yourself to some other girl instead of trying again with the one you already freaked out.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1589658021 10-13-2019, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By ANumber1⏩
Seriously? Somebody runs away in fear, so you find them later and do the same thing over again, and it's everybody else who's being harsh?

Unless this dude's way more of an autiste than the story is letting on - like "it's a miracle he's made it this far in school" autistic - most people would realize that if they call somebody and the recipient hangs up on them in anger, that calling them back isn't going to go well.
Yes seriously. You made a generalised statement about fukin’ up twice being inexcusable, then I replied addressing how ridiculous that generalisation is. Now you have gone context specific and you’re acting like i’m the one who said something daft.

But to address your now context specific question - can you please point to where the article said she ran away in fear?

First we had him grabbing her, now we have her running away in fear, and next we’re probably going to have her screaming at the top of her lungs.

My point is - everyone defending the girl is having to embellish the story in all sorts of subtle ways. That’s very telling, imo.
post 1589659461 10-13-2019, 03:03 PM
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LOL, now a girl’s objection to being stalked and touched requires ‘defending’. Holy fuk miscs hatred of women knows no bounds.
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post 1589659741 10-13-2019, 03:08 PM
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Can we get a sexual assault on this guy? I didnt see his victim articulate he wanted to be touched. Meaning it was completely unprovoked. 10 years at least

Or does it require the male in this instance to have a victim complex to turn it into something more horrible? Im just curious.. Could this guy turn this story into the fact that the dude was eyeing him previously and he used this as a chance to touch him? He even grazed his breasts. maybe 20 years actually. Since theyre real sexual organs
post 1589659971 10-13-2019, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩


Can we get a sexual assault on this guy? I didnt see his victim articulate he wanted to be touched. Meaning it was completely unprovoked. 10 years at least

Or does it require the male in this instance to have a victim complex to turn it into something more horrible? Im just curious.. Could this guy turn this story into the fact that the dude was eyeing him previously and he used this as a chance to touch him? He even grazed his breasts. maybe 20 years actually. Since theyre real sexual organs
Pretty unlikely. Who’s going to charge a Chad?
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post 1589661141 10-13-2019, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Do you believe that she should have gone to the police after the first time?
Possibly. Or her college, or her family, or whoever.. what SHOULD have happened is that he was spoken to, unofficially, by someone in authority, and told WHY he shouldn’t have done this. If he fukked up after that, zero sympathy.

The way this played out, his life is now in the toilet, forever. Despite what you are saying, he will find it very difficult to get any public facing job whether it’s with vulnerable people or not. Do you think he is going to interview well enough for people to overlook a police caution? Really?
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