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post 1590208791 10-22-2019, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
The Prequels were mostly fine except for Hayden Christensen and Jar Jar Binks. Binks I can ignore, but Christensen is the actor in the central role of the whole entire prequel trilogy. His dreadful performances cast a pall over the entire thing. With that said, none of the prequels come even close to the nadir of worthlessness that TLJ reached.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
whos the hero of the phantom menace?
The little kid who eventually went mental. Many people didn't like his performance at the time, but I didn't mind, and I minded it less and less after I saw HC playing teenage goth Anakin.
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Real Talk: Is there any possible way they could salvage this trilogy? In my opinion, no.....there is nothing they can do. Kylo Ren is the most beta pussy villian ever. Even if you fix other problems, this one is still there.

I think they are going to pull some wild/crazy twist in this to try and salvage. I still say that Rey is Kylo's sister and daughter of Han and Leia. How they work the story to fit that would be challenging, but its my prediction.
They could salvage it, but it would involve killing off Kylo, and I doubt that happens.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
The little kid who eventually went mental. Many people didn't like his performance at the time, but I didn't mind, and I minded it less and less after I saw HC playing teenage goth Anakin.
he was deuteragonist to obiwan, this is just a hint of the structural nightmare that could only loosely be described as a fukin "story"

the plot is a mixture of a dozen writers' harried fever dreams
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
The Prequels were mostly fine except for Hayden Christensen and Jar Jar Binks. Binks I can ignore, but Christensen is the actor in the central role of the whole entire prequel trilogy. His dreadful performances cast a pall over the entire thing. With that said, none of the prequels come even close to the nadir of worthlessness that TLJ reached.
One could argue that Hayden was slightly better in the 3rd than the 2nd....while I agree his performance in 2 wasn't great (this is not entirely his fault either, the screenplay itself is partly to blame with its various issues). But I don't think most sat through Revenge of the Sith thinking "man, how bad is this actor of Anakin" the whole time. Obviously the acting wasn't great, but this didn't ruin the movie for me.... in fact I thought ROTS was rather strong, carrying an excellent tone and containing a good amount of emotion throughout (my slight quarrels would be the battle of Kashyyyk not done well, almost as an afterthought, and the final lightsaber battles a little too drawn out).

Binks....eh I dunno. One could say he had a place in the first movie, as cringe as some of it was. And for sure he was annoying. The main problem for me is there is an awkward shift from him being prominent in the first movie to almost not even seen in the other two, despite being somehow a full blown representative/senator. Not smooth storytelling in that aspect, from a trilogy perspective. This stuff for me is relatively minor though.....the Disney movies don't hold a candle to the prequels imo.
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post 1590210071 10-22-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By ko300zx⏩
Meh. Will watch on Netflix sometime next year, will be mildly entertained by the special effects, will forget about it a week later.
I'd bet it won't even go to Netflix, Disney+ on the other hand...
Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
One could argue that Hayden was slightly better in the 3rd than the 2nd....while I agree his performance in 2 wasn't great (this is not entirely his fault either, the screenplay itself is partly to blame with its various issues). But I don't think most sat through Revenge of the Sith thinking "man, how bad is this actor of Anakin" the whole time. Obviously the acting wasn't great, but this didn't ruin the movie for me....
I don't even blame him any more, it's more of George's writing. Take any of their line's and it can be pretty bad, Natalie Portmans in particular.
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Just lmao if you liked Rogue One. Literally a shiet tier movie besides the last scene with Vader
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
Somebody get OP some help, he's clearly delusional. There haven't been any Star Wars films since1983.
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nope no way.

I understand most fans hate the prequels, and thats fine and dandy, but they do **** all over these new movies.

At the absolute least,the prequels had well written characterswith actual development. They had George Lucas’ touch and they had memorable moments. Go ahead and point me to a moment in the Disney movies thats even 1/4th as memorable as the Darth Maul duel with Duel of the Fates kicking in.
Um, what? The prequels had some of the worst writing I've ever witnessed in film. Even when I first saw The Phantom Menace when I was 15, I thought it was a huge letdown and barely watchable outside of Darth Maul and Natalie Portman. The Attack of the Clones, on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities. I liked the Revenge of the Sith when it first came out, but it hasn't aged that well. In fact, the prequels in general haven't aged well (not that they were good in the first place) because of the overuse of late 90s/early 2000s CGI.
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This trailer pretty much confirmed certain leaks by some guy (yes, I'm assuming gender) on reddit. I read the whole thing. They arent getting my money this time.

Here's alinkto the spoiler thread if you're interested.
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Originally Posted By SazabiBrah⏩
Just lmao if you liked Rogue One. Literally a shiet tier movie besides the last scene with Vader
Didn’t get the hype for that one either. A dull uninspired movie with forgettable characters, besides that robot. Skipped the entire second half of Rogue One just to watch Vader kill some rebels. Best scene in all of Disney Star Wars
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Crazy that I'll be skipping a Star Wars movie, never would have thought it possible.

If only the movies were 1/10th as good as the trailers.
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie⏩
They could salvage it, but it would involve killing off Kylo, and I doubt that happens.
According to the leaks...
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
whos the hero of the phantom menace?
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The only way to save this franchise is to cast Jason Genova for the role he was born to play: Dark Sith Lord Spaniard.


And then do a fan service and give us what we all want: A 15 second sex scene with him and Natalie Portman that ends with him busting all over his own chest.
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Originally Posted By Scrizzle⏩
The only way to save this franchise is to cast Jason Genova for the role he was born to play: Dark Sith Lord Spaniard.


And then do a fan service and give us what we all want: A 15 second sex scene with him and Natalie Portman that ends with him busting all over his own chest.



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Originally Posted By blindsideflank⏩
Girl power!
The sad part is that this isn't even that far from the truth.

I know some feel the way they do about the prequels but this new sequel trilogy is undisputedly hot garbage in comparison. Films that think that original trilogy fan service and unoriginal carbon copying (far worse than George Lucas' rhyming of the OT and PT), nonsensical story and character choices that completely break continuity and SJW fingerprints make for a great Star Wars film. I'm a diehard SW fan so I'll be watching this dumpster fire til the end and somewhat hoping that the "Rey is Anakin" fan theory winds up being true but not holding my breath for anything salvageable at this point.

Disney wanted to make a film trilogy "for the fans". George wanted to tell his story. Honestly I think the difference in inspiration is evident.

Yes angery. Yes super salty over the new trilogy.
Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Real Talk: Is there any possible way they could salvage this trilogy? In my opinion, no.....there is nothing they can do. Kylo Ren is the most beta pussy villian ever. Even if you fix other problems, this one is still there.

I think they are going to pull some wild/crazy twist in this to try and salvage. I still say that Rey is Kylo's sister and daughter of Han and Leia. How they work the story to fit that would be challenging, but its my prediction.
Wishful thinking imo. Every movie of the new trilogy thus far has been lackluster. Imo it's an impossible order to somehow magically fix everything within the context and limits of one film of 2 hours and change. There's too much that needs addressing.
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Originally Posted By GoldenArmKid⏩
George wanted to tell his story.
He wouldn't have sold Star Wars then
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so looks like there were leaks that the trailer entirely confirmed


i've read them and have no comment on them but they're out there if you want them
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
He wouldn't have sold Star Wars then
Well the point is that George has always said that SW was the story of Anakin Skywalker. His rise, fall and redemption through his son. Episodes 1-6 told that story thoroughly and in completion. As far as I know he didn't have any real desire to continue that story since it was finished in his own mind, Disney wanted it and threw money at him so he sold it.
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Originally Posted By bartosh⏩
so looks like there were leaks that the trailer entirely confirmed


i've read them and have no comment on them but they're out there if you want them
Read them. Don't care about them.

Leaks for Endgame came out. Fans biched about them. Then the movie came out. Nobody's complained since.
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Originally Posted By GoldenArmKid⏩
Well the point is that George has always said that SW was the story of Anakin Skywalker. His rise, fall and redemption through his son. Episodes 1-6 told that story thoroughly and in completion. As far as I know he didn't have any real desire to continue that story since it was finished in his own mind, Disney wanted it and threw money at him so he sold it.
He came up with the sequel trilogy before he sold it. Then he sold it. Now he's upset that Disney never used his story for the ST.

Apparently it included more midichlorians and that the force is biological. I'm not sure his story would've been any better. But he did include an old hermit depressed Luke Skywalker
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
Read them. Don't care about them.

Leaks for Endgame came out. Fans biched about them. Then the movie came out. Nobody's complained since.
The difference is Marvel movies have been mostly decent or better as a whole since Iron Man 1, so i expected endgame to be decent or better

New star wars doesn't have the same decent foundation to go off of


But hey, EP9 very well could be a masterpiece. They won't be getting my money though
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
He came up with the sequel trilogy before he sold it. Then he sold it. Now he's upset that Disney never used his story for the ST.

Apparently it included more midichlorians and that the force is biological. I'm not sure his story would've been any better. But he did include an old hermit depressed Luke Skywalker
I see. I knew about the sequel drafts but didn't realize he had any intent behind them before Disney.


Tbh if they had just adapted the Expanded Universe stuff to film that would've been really neat. Instead of kind of bastardizing the whole Jacen vs. Jaina solo brother-sister feud.
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
He came up with the sequel trilogy before he sold it. Then he sold it. Now he's upset that Disney never used his story for the ST.

Apparently it included more midichlorians and that the force is biological. I'm not sure his story would've been any better. But he did include an old hermit depressed Luke Skywalker
The Force is Midichlorians >>>>> The Force is Female

On paper, Lucas’ outline sounds retarted. If he did go through with production, though, I’m sure he’d have the sense to hire another director and just oversee the project, just to add that magic Lucas touch that made Star Wars Star Wars. The prequels would’ve been masterpieces in comparison if he hadn’t directed.
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WTF is even the plot?
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Originally Posted By OLawdQuan⏩
The Force is Midichlorians >>>>> The Force is Female

On paper, Lucas’ outline sounds retarted. If he did go through with production, though, I’m sure he’d have the sense to hire another director and just oversee the project, just to add that magic Lucas touch that made Star Wars Star Wars. The prequels would’ve been masterpieces in comparison if he hadn’t directed.
I remember Ron Howard(Apollo 13, Willow, Solo) was approached to do The Phantom Menace but he turned it down.
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