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post 1591289011 11-09-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By snailsrus
Wow definitely not an area I could do
It's definitely for a personality type- I don't really deal with humans and spend most of my day alone deep in the weeds of pretty technical issues that, my understanding is, bores the average person to death. Fun for me tho it's like a puzzle and I prefer being left alone to craft my arguments. Most of the people I work with I would describe as somewhat functioning autists.

Not that I wouldn't do it if I had to, but I don't think dealing with divorced people would be my cup of tea tbh.
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I wouldn't call what I do a profession or career. I'm just a worker bee. I basically do data entry but with a lot of thinking. I'm the first person that handles setting up accounts and making sure all of the client info is accurate after sales sells our services. Sales basically has no standards and doesn't need to get anything right and I'm the person that needs to figure it all out and make sure it's correct while having both production and quality standards to meet. I like my company and I like my dept/coworkers but I hate my job.
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Originally Posted By 04akhriz40
Yeah true. People say that jobs like that will be replaced by automation in years to come. For people born before the 80's had no fear of losing their jobs to robots. (Or so I think?). Who knows when that will happen actually, could happen next year or in 100 years.
Yeah I see what ur saying, sounds like something to atleast consider if things don't go to plan. The contracting field would require a long line of academics to get started. Which I'd like to think I'd be up to? But yeah, see how it goes lol. Does your job support you in day to day life, like, no negative balance or terrifying bills?

"zero actual professional Accounting experience (although there are strong parallels with what I do)." Didn't you say that you have a masters in accounting?
Yeah, that's my Masters - but I went a different direction. For federal you only need a Bachelors with 24 credit hours to meet the entry level education requirements. There are classes/certs (generally DAWIA) too, but those classes really aren't that difficult.

It sounds like you might have misunderstood a little bit though? I don't mean contracting like I'm a 1099 person or something like that. Its a regular job. We are the ones who buy shyt and create the actual contracts, and the only people who have the authority to "obligate the government". Its like a combination of procurement/legal/etc.
post 1591314091 11-10-2019, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted By redraider86
Your questions aren't ridiculous at all, you're curious. "Underwater basketweaving" is an idiom that means you studied something that is difficult to apply to the "real world." Things like vocal jazz, women's studies, German Polka history, etc. Adding letters to someone's name is a silly way of saying they have a professional or terminal degree, things like a Ph.D, JD, etc.

When I said I was homeless, I meant that I lived in hotels for 18 months because of work. I didn't rent or have a mortgage, I simply lived out of different hotels depending upon the city I was in. It's common for consultants to either do Monday through Thursday at the client site or even longer, depending on the duration of the project. My work is focused on inclusion, which is a fancy way of saying how to make sure people at work are reasonably happy enough that they're productive, while staying mindful of industry regulations and boring legal stuff.

I think since you're only 16 (and I don't mean that dismissively, it's awesome that you're driven and considering possible career routes) you should focus on things like building and maintaining your social skills, getting good grades, delayed gratification, and using condoms. Truly, if you can manage those four things you'll be miles ahead of your peers when the time comes to decide on a career path. Good luck to you! And don't stress, you're going to be just fine.
Thanks for your response. Ah right I see, I just typed "underwater basketweaving" and I just saw pictures of people weaving baskets underwater!! I get it, I think I've heard "adding letters to a name" from a tv show, but I'm glad that you've said what it actually is.

But for that 18 months, that was the build up/getting started phase right? So, it wasn't because you were financially ****, you had to move around because of your job?
So, is your job friendly? Like, you don't get some douche**** slamming papers on ur desk demanding ****?

Yeah thanks, I think its about time that I stopped ****ing around and actually decided what to do. Honestly, I rarely study, which is a bad thing as I just lack motivation for whatever reason. Hopefully it comes to me that I need to study or I'll end up homeless!! I'll keep that noted, as it's somewhat vague, but great points to strive for. (Maintaining social skills, good grades etc) Yeah true, I'll try not to stress (I'm pretty laid back). I might pm you some questions later on, thanks for the offer.
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Originally Posted By BrightThru2014
I'm a lawyer. It sucks and I am currently working on a brief right now.

Pay is ok tho and it def is a hit with the ladies.
Hit with the ladies lol.
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Originally Posted By MadNinjaSkills
Lol of course not. I do enjoy being home with them, even though it’s taken some time to adjust. I’ve had a job since I was a teen. So being home really took some getting used to. Once the little one goes to school I plan to work part time to start. But I do miss the interaction with other adults during the day. I’m hoping to get a job with the school district when I return to full time work. I especially love working behind the scenes doing admin work for the special edition sector.
Yeah, like u said, takes time to adjust. Plus, when ur kids hit a certain age, you can work full time and whatever the **** you want to do!!

Did you go to uni?
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Yeah, that's my Masters - but I went a different direction. For federal you only need a Bachelors with 24 credit hours to meet the entry level education requirements. There are classes/certs (generally DAWIA) too, but those classes really aren't that difficult.

It sounds like you might have misunderstood a little bit though? I don't mean contracting like I'm a 1099 person or something like that. Its a regular job. We are the ones who buy shyt and create the actual contracts, and the only people who have the authority to "obligate the government". Its like a combination of procurement/legal/etc.
Ah right I see!

Yeah, I think I may have misunderstood a little, what does 1099 mean? I searched it up but it didn't make much sense. (Lol) Other than that, I get what ur saying.

For the first part of my previous msg about robots, I was talking about accounting by the way.

Also, since you job title is (Contract Specialist/Acquisitions). Where does accounting come into this? You mentioned that because that was ur degree right? (There are so many people on here with so many different jobs, I'm pretty lost lol).
Thanks.
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Originally Posted By Legz422
I wouldn't call what I do a profession or career. I'm just a worker bee. I basically do data entry but with a lot of thinking. I'm the first person that handles setting up accounts and making sure all of the client info is accurate after sales sells our services. Sales basically has no standards and doesn't need to get anything right and I'm the person that needs to figure it all out and make sure it's correct while having both production and quality standards to meet. I like my company and I like my dept/coworkers but I hate my job.
Hey neat job, what did you study at College? (UK or your countries equivalent)
post 1591315981 11-10-2019, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted By ThisIsMyAlias
I'm a fry cook

I cook the fries, sometimes Dave doesn't show and I do mcnuggets and apple pies too
Where do you work lol.
post 1591339501 11-10-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By 04akhriz40
Thanks for your response. Ah right I see, I just typed "underwater basketweaving" and I just saw pictures of people weaving baskets underwater!! I get it, I think I've heard "adding letters to a name" from a tv show, but I'm glad that you've said what it actually is.

But for that 18 months, that was the build up/getting started phase right? So, it wasn't because you were financially ****, you had to move around because of your job?
So, is your job friendly? Like, you don't get some douche**** slamming papers on ur desk demanding ****?

Yeah thanks, I think its about time that I stopped ****ing around and actually decided what to do. Honestly, I rarely study, which is a bad thing as I just lack motivation for whatever reason. Hopefully it comes to me that I need to study or I'll end up homeless!! I'll keep that noted, as it's somewhat vague, but great points to strive for. (Maintaining social skills, good grades etc) Yeah true, I'll try not to stress (I'm pretty laid back). I might pm you some questions later on, thanks for the offer.
Oh yes, those 18 months or so were absolutely worth it, and it really was pretty cool most of the time, until I got stuck in like, Fargo ND for 3 months in the dead of winter.

I've never had anyone slam something down on my desk, mostly because I work from home.But I have gotten a few verbal beatdowns and frankly some of those were deserved, but those were years ago when I was still trying to get my bearings. Now I'm actually the person given the Highly Difficult clients because I can manage them and actually like doing so. That being said, there are two main reasons people hire consultants in the line of work I do: 1) In the hopes that you can correct course and save it - whatever "it" happens to be, and 2) So they have someone they can shift blame to other than themselves. This can mean emotions run high because they're using us as a last-ditch effort, but there are some lines that I've never let people cross in their tone or language. When I feel like it is personal or just flat disrespectful, we will have an issue to discuss. Bottom line, even as a new and arguably dumb consultant, you might get intense feedback but it should never be personal.

I want to mention something regarding your comment around lacking motivation. I don't think anyone has the motivation to do things they don't particularly enjoy doing, at least not consistently. Something that helped me was to focus on discipline over motivation. Motivation comes and goes and is unreliable, but discipline is a decision you make every day to get your stuff done. A good book on this: Discipline Equals Freedom. The book is stellar, the podcast is even better.

And if you'd like to read some other books that might sway you one way or the other:

The Technology Fallacy: How People Are the Real Key to Digital Transformation (Written by several partners at Deloitte, and I think it will give you an idea on how they approach work)

The McKinsey Way (Dry, but the Bible of consulting)

Jack of All Trades Master of Some - An Introduction to Consulting (Digestible and an easy yet informative read)
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post 1591758431 11-17-2019, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted By redraider86
Oh yes, those 18 months or so were absolutely worth it, and it really was pretty cool most of the time, until I got stuck in like, Fargo ND for 3 months in the dead of winter.

I've never had anyone slam something down on my desk, mostly because I work from home.But I have gotten a few verbal beatdowns and frankly some of those were deserved, but those were years ago when I was still trying to get my bearings. Now I'm actually the person given the Highly Difficult clients because I can manage them and actually like doing so. That being said, there are two main reasons people hire consultants in the line of work I do: 1) In the hopes that you can correct course and save it - whatever "it" happens to be, and 2) So they have someone they can shift blame to other than themselves. This can mean emotions run high because they're using us as a last-ditch effort, but there are some lines that I've never let people cross in their tone or language. When I feel like it is personal or just flat disrespectful, we will have an issue to discuss. Bottom line, even as a new and arguably dumb consultant, you might get intense feedback but it should never be personal.

I want to mention something regarding your comment around lacking motivation. I don't think anyone has the motivation to do things they don't particularly enjoy doing, at least not consistently. Something that helped me was to focus on discipline over motivation. Motivation comes and goes and is unreliable, but discipline is a decision you make every day to get your stuff done. A good book on this: Discipline Equals Freedom. The book is stellar, the podcast is even better.

And if you'd like to read some other books that might sway you one way or the other:

The Technology Fallacy: How People Are the Real Key to Digital Transformation (Written by several partners at Deloitte, and I think it will give you an idea on how they approach work)

The McKinsey Way (Dry, but the Bible of consulting)

Jack of All Trades Master of Some - An Introduction to Consulting (Digestible and an easy yet informative read)
Hey man, sorry I didn't respond, I thought people stopped posting!

Ah right I see, that's pretty cool, sounds really interesting!! Would you say a job of that nature is something you can actually maintain for 5-10+ years without smashing ur head on a wall?

That makes sense, I think I need a smack on my head to keep me motivated lol. Do you have any mental ques to help you do anything work/study related? I'll totally check out those books at the local library. Would be great to get me started.
Thanks for all your information, but in all honesty, what do you think is better for me. Job in engineering, maths in university, accountant or a consultant? Honestly kind of lost haha. Thanks!!
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Originally Posted By redraider86
LOL, so my background is "varied," to say the least. I was a professional dancer (no stripper) at 16 and attended a performing arts high school for a few hours a day, never even heard of consulting until I was 25 or so. I wanted to go to college and have a shot at a somewhat normal life so I played around with a performing arts college and they decided to offer me a scholarship to major in underwater basketweaving. I graduated with a BFA and fuked around for a few years then started looking at MBA programs for chits and giggles. I did that, added some letters to my name, worked for some alphabet acronyms then exited to the boutique firm I'm at now.

I think consulting is absolutely something to check out and consider (are you still in school? Look at their consulting club) Obviously MBB and some of the other firms are massively stressful - I was literally homeless for about 18 months, it was like Up in the Air but without a very sexy mentor to show me the ropes.

Now, it's the best job I've ever had and I'm likely at the best company I'll ever work for. I average around 30 hours a week, 99% remotely, earning mid 6 figures and people with industry experience as old as I am listen to me and do what I tell them. It's also cool as fuk to work on projects that you eventually see on the news...until it's Purdue Pharma, the Saudi Arabian government, etc. Just be aware that whatever type of consulting you do can massively impact your career, and you likely have little say around the projects/engagements you take on.

Happy to answer any more questions you might have, here or over PM. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Mid 6 figures as in 150kish or 500kish? I'm still thinking about an MBA. I'll decide once I take GMAT.
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Originally Posted By 04akhriz40
Hey man, sorry I didn't respond, I thought people stopped posting!

Ah right I see, that's pretty cool, sounds really interesting!! Would you say a job of that nature is something you can actually maintain for 5-10+ years without smashing ur head on a wall?

That makes sense, I think I need a smack on my head to keep me motivated lol. Do you have any mental ques to help you do anything work/study related? I'll totally check out those books at the local library. Would be great to get me started.
Thanks for all your information, but in all honesty, what do you think is better for me. Job in engineering, maths in university, accountant or a consultant? Honestly kind of lost haha. Thanks!!
LOL, savage. Always felt it was rude af if an OP posts in a thread and abandons it, figure might as well keep answering if you still give a chit. Nah, very few personality types can handle the travel and workload. The three people I worked under who retired died within a year of retirement. All the stuff I said about it being rewarding is true, but it's at the detriment of relationships, health, sanity, etc. That's why I left for a smaller firm with little to no travel.

My watch face says "There is no shortcut. There is no hack. There's only way, so get after it." I guess that's a mental cue. Put simply, just do it. Just get it done. No one likes studying or grinding through work they hate, but you have to get it done. Stop thinking about it and just do it.

Can't say what would be a better job for you, I just don't know all that much about you. I think you should focus on general studies for as long as you can and making good life choices. Even then, you can change direction almost at any point.
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Mid 6 figures as in 150kish or 500kish? I'm still thinking about an MBA. I'll decide once I take GMAT.
The first. Crappy wording.
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Originally Posted By Polaris
Contract Specialist/Acquisitions
federal govt bruh? If so, what was did your path to CS look like? Just curious, briefly thought about going that route because of workplace flexibility. Transferring to europe or asia would be fairly easy because they have those billets everywhere
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Chartered Accountant (Certified) - Hate every second of it.
Likewise, but I love it. Even after 13 years in the industry.

It helps that partners at my firm are bloody awesome, can imagine I would hate it otherwise.
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Originally Posted By knightofday
federal govt bruh? If so, what was did your path to CS look like? Just curious, briefly thought about going that route because of workplace flexibility. Transferring to europe or asia would be fairly easy because they have those billets everywhere
Not the OP but also in government contracting. Entry level tends to be GS9. Once you get your Level II you will move to 11 and 12 rather quickly. Take the deployments and contingency missions. Get your Master's, very few have it.
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Originally Posted By knightofday
federal govt bruh? If so, what was did your path to CS look like? Just curious, briefly thought about going that route because of workplace flexibility. Transferring to europe or asia would be fairly easy because they have those billets everywhere
Outlined that in another post in this thread, but you didn't miss much. Yes DoD.

Actually, did forget to mention I got in through one of the "recent grad" programs. Fortunately 2 years hadn't elapsed (though I was damn close) since I finished my Masters. Its a hell of a lot easier to get your foot in the door that way.
Originally Posted By Xplicit_Mindz
Not the OP but also in government contracting. Entry level tends to be GS9. Once you get your Level II you will move to 11 and 12 rather quickly. Take the deployments and contingency missions. Get your Master's, very few have it.
To answer your question - DAWIA. I think ideally I would like to get more into the Procurement Analyst realm down the road, but we will see.
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Originally Posted By ScramFranklin
Civil Engineer in Electric Utilities (Power). Kind of wish I did something more lucrative. So I guess my options are to stay in the industry or try and get into a good full time MBA program, but I'm getting old for that.
You don't enjoy ur job?? Why MBA?
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