Log In

Your email is not your username

Register

If you were a member of the old Bodybuilding.com forums and would like to reuse your previous username, you can request it below. We use your email only for registration and do not store it. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy.

Confirm your email

A registration code was sent to your email. Enter it here.

Welcome

You have successfully setup your account.

Sign in

Quick Navigation Bottom Misc
Forum » Mind = Blown that so many people waste their time with standing OHP
  1. Results 61 to 90 of 257
  2. Page 3 of 9
  3. First
  5. 1
  6. 2
  7. 3
  8. 4
  9. 5
  11. Last

Thread: Mind = Blown that so many people waste their time with standing OHP

post 1592064481 11-21-2019, 04:36 PM
-
#61
  1. cannonballdooky
  2. Registered Bag of Milk
  1. cannonballdooky
  2. Registered Bag of Milk
  3. Join Date: May 2012
  4. Posts: 5,940
  5. Rep Power: 8708
Looks like a good exercise but I can only do this on the smith machine in my gym. Just squat racks and no power racks.


I do lots of OHP and side laterals with all sorts of weights and I think it builds my shoulders incredibly. My shoulders/upper back is my only half decent body part lmao.
*HTC* crew
Looks ok in tank top, looks like a bag of milk shirtless crew
Ariel Winter's future husband
post 1592064641 11-21-2019, 04:39 PM
-
#62
  1. allianc3
  2. Lifetime natty
  1. allianc3
  2. Lifetime natty
  3. Join Date: Jul 2008
  4. Location: Chad
  5. Posts: 10,720
  6. Rep Power: 76318
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I don't think it's genetics at all. The only thing that changed between these two pics two years apart is a started following smart people and using my brain

https://i.imgur.com/oTgsqfN.png
height/weight?
post 1592064651 11-21-2019, 04:39 PM
-
#63
  1. iwannagethench
  2. Banned
  1. iwannagethench
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: Nov 2010
  4. Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
  5. Posts: 3,738
  6. Rep Power: 0
[QUOTE=jk202 post_id=1592063141]Let me guess, you think back squats are the best exercise for quads? Pls go[/QUOTE]Look at all the powerlifters that are strong AF, they all have huge AF legs.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/rt0296oNNaw[/youtube]

[YouTube]
post 1592064711 11-21-2019, 04:41 PM
-
#64
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 846
  7. Rep Power: 5077
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Because I wasn't strong enough to hit 6, yet lol. Literally the first time barbell pressing for delts in a long time. Once I get into the groove of these they should progress pretty well. If I can't bodyweight x 10 in a few weeks you can call me a *******
Nah, wouldn't think you are a *******. Just wondering why you were working in that rep scheme, that is all
post 1592064761 11-21-2019, 04:42 PM
-
#65
  1. TsubasaKen
  2. Banned
  1. TsubasaKen
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: Nov 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 360
  6. Rep Power: 1566
Originally Posted By iwannagethench⏩
Look at all the powerlifters that are strong AF, they all have huge AF legs.
]
Bro i think there is no need to defend the back squat, its not like its Arnold fukin Schwarzenegger talking **** about them and you care about proving him wrong.

At this point you basically just shrug it off and go on with your day.
post 1592064771 11-21-2019, 04:42 PM
-
#66
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By ChangeOfStyle⏩
You don't need to go there bud, just keep the thread for what you made it for; you honestly have nothing to prove mate. Back to the topic though, my push day for shoulders usually just consists of weighted shoulder dips, followed by incline-supported dumbbell lateral raise and OHP. Now my genetics for my shoulders has been pretty sweet so it's been going hella good, also incline supported facepulls as well but that's on a pull day. I did however see one bloke doing this exact exercise and I was wondering what he was doing, he was literally doing about 100kg but I think the safety bar was abit more higher then yours actually is so he had less range of motion on the actual exercise.

All I'm trying to do right now is to just build strength on my upper body and shoulders as previously stated by also get that boulder, wide look. Pretty much doing PPL of x3 strength/x3 hypertrophy.If you got any and all advice to further my advancement, I'm all keen on listening.Also on hypertrophy training days, I'm mostly using a very slow concentration during the range of motion just to further add more tension into the delts.
A great option for a push day would be the same thing I'm doing but one incline notch lower. Still is going to hit delts, but it's also going to bring more chest into it.
Even if your goal is strength, I still think braced makes more sense in terms of getting the intended muscle to create the most force.
post 1592064871 11-21-2019, 04:43 PM
-
#67
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By allianc3⏩
height/weight?
5'8 like 175 in the after. I'm currently 191
post 1592064981 11-21-2019, 04:45 PM
-
#68
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By smsg112⏩
Nah, wouldn't think you are a *******. Just wondering why you were working in that rep scheme, that is all
Pretty much all meat and potatoes stuff is a top working set of 5-8 (4-6 on squats and pulls) and then a backoff set of 8-12
post 1592065031 11-21-2019, 04:46 PM
-
#69
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By Nesque⏩
Why is it a bad exercise?
Saying it's not the most optimal choice doesn't mean I'm saying it's bad
post 1592065051 11-21-2019, 04:47 PM
-
#70
  1. r32gojirra
  2. Registered NEET
  1. r32gojirra
  2. Registered NEET
  3. Join Date: Feb 2013
  4. Location: East Coast, Australia
  5. Posts: 39,513
  6. Subscribers: 6
  7. Rep Power: 594712
Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
Seems like a good way of avoiding what I see most people doing:

Bending their knees and pushing it up with momentum.

Looking good, OP. Repped on r/c.
Push press is a legitimate exercise especially if training clean and jerk
post 1592065061 11-21-2019, 04:47 PM
-
#71
  1. DrumsNotDead
  2. Registered User
  1. DrumsNotDead
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jun 2019
  4. Age: 56
  5. Posts: 9,649
  6. Rep Power: 41839
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Saying it's not the most optimal choice doesn't mean I'm saying it's bad
Why is seated better iyo? Takes leg drive out?
post 1592065111 11-21-2019, 04:49 PM
-
#72
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead⏩
Why is seated better iyo? Takes leg drive out?
Less moving parts and better bracing allows for more output. You can't fire a cannon from a canoe
post 1592065311 11-21-2019, 04:52 PM
-
#73
  1. kimm4
  1. kimm4
  3. Join Date: May 2008
  4. Location: Massachusetts, United States
  5. Age: 57
  6. Posts: 56,796
  7. Subscribers: 7
  8. Rep Power: 1204049
Standing OHP, push press and bradford press are my fav overhead movements.

I like to mix things up.
National Level Competitor (Female BB)
post 1592065341 11-21-2019, 04:53 PM
-
#74
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By Nesque⏩
no, you can

Lmao touche
post 1592065431 11-21-2019, 04:54 PM
-
#75
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
Standing OHP, push press and bradford press are my fav overhead movements.

I like to mix things up.
Enjoyment, consistency and effort are all super important too, fo sho
post 1592065461 11-21-2019, 04:56 PM
-
#76
  1. rockr101
  2. Certified Tyrone
  1. rockr101
  2. Certified Tyrone
  3. Join Date: Nov 2011
  4. Posts: 11,411
  5. Rep Power: 23688
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Pretend they don't exist because I don't lift for women or to step on stage

OHPing for abs is the equivalent of people calling deadlifts a grip exercise
yep .. only reason abs exist





























{\_/}
( - .-)
/=>🎧
post 1592065891 11-21-2019, 05:04 PM
-
#77
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By rockr101⏩
yep .. only reason abs exist


Lol well no. But I just hate direct ab work to be honest. Is that a good enough reason? I've never argued with the fact that it shows lol
post 1592065971 11-21-2019, 05:06 PM
-
#78
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 846
  7. Rep Power: 5077
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Pretty much all meat and potatoes stuff is a top working set of 5-8 (4-6 on squats and pulls) and then a backoff set of 8-12
Ahh, gotcha. Ever upped the reps in the meat and potatoes (8-12)? Or are you specifically looking to bolster strength production to a greater degree by staying around 5?
post 1592065991 11-21-2019, 05:07 PM
-
#79
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  1. smsg112
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Jan 2010
  4. Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
  5. Age: 35
  6. Posts: 846
  7. Rep Power: 5077
Originally Posted By Nesque⏩
Your opinion on behind the neck press?

wouldn't it be better than front presses because it builds a rear delt which most people lack compared to front which is being hit a lot indirectly
Probably better exercises if you are concerned with risk to reward. Reverse pec deck and bent over flys have got a many people swole rear delts
post 1592066041 11-21-2019, 05:07 PM
-
#80
  1. SazabiBrah
  2. Registered User
  1. SazabiBrah
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Nov 2014
  4. Age: 36
  5. Posts: 10,352
  6. Rep Power: 35984
I rarely do OHP movements but I can still do 225x8 on incline bench so I think I'm hitting my shoulders pretty good
post 1592066301 11-21-2019, 05:12 PM
-
#81
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By Nesque⏩
Your opinion on behind the neck press?

wouldn't it be better than front presses because it builds a rear delt which most people lack compared to front which is being hit a lot indirectly
Originally Posted By smsg112⏩
Probably better exercises if you are concerned with risk to reward. Reverse pec deck and bent over flys have got a many people swole rear delts
Pretty much this. Much better options for rear delts. Rear delt focused rows or pull downs are a great option as well as reverse pec dec

I think people would benefit more from prioritizing lagging body parts instead of trying to compensate: need more side delt? Hit a lateral variation as the first exercise in your push/ delt workout. Same with rear delt. A1 in your workout doesn’t HAVE to be a press
post 1592066541 11-21-2019, 05:16 PM
-
#82
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By smsg112⏩
Ahh, gotcha. Ever upped the reps in the meat and potatoes (8-12)? Or are you specifically looking to bolster strength production to a greater degree by staying around 5?
Not really for the main exercises. Strength is a bonus, but progressing loads in that 6-10 range is the perhaps most efficient for hypertrophy imo and my observations from smarter individuals
post 1592066741 11-21-2019, 05:19 PM
-
#83
  1. iwannagethench
  2. Banned
  1. iwannagethench
  2. Banned
  3. Join Date: Nov 2010
  4. Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)
  5. Posts: 3,738
  6. Rep Power: 0
5 reps is fine, y'all need to.take this advice with grain of salt. Lifting ain't that deep, just have fun with it.
post 1592066801 11-21-2019, 05:20 PM
-
#84
  1. ThenMaestro
  2. Officially Sicilian
  1. ThenMaestro
  2. Officially Sicilian
  3. Join Date: Oct 2019
  4. Posts: 842
  5. Rep Power: 0
Overall physical consistency of development is apparently overrated,

Doing an exercise 1nce and finding that it's aneasiervariation proves it's better, and that you're stronger.



Just say that you're tired of OHP as many people are, and get over it, stop trying to justify your weakness of spirit with bravado, it's sad.
post 1592066931 11-21-2019, 05:22 PM
-
#85
  1. 401Delta
  2. ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠
  1. 401Delta
  2. ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠
  3. Join Date: May 2017
  4. Posts: 25,167
  5. Rep Power: 417920
They're not my favorite exercise for shoulders, but the OP is an idiot for saying they're a waste of time.

Entering this thread...was an actual waste of time.
post 1592067121 11-21-2019, 05:26 PM
-
#86
  1. Aristotelian
  2. Positive Mental Attitude
  1. Aristotelian
  2. Positive Mental Attitude
  3. Join Date: Jun 2017
  4. Posts: 12,849
  5. Rep Power: 263689
Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Push press is a legitimate exercise especially if training clean and jerk
I wasn't referring to push press; more the people who do sets of OHP and then 'grind' the last few however they can. Like people booping with their knees when they curl or shrug etc.
post 1592067321 11-21-2019, 05:29 PM
-
#87
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  1. jk202
  2. Registered User
  3. Join Date: Oct 2013
  4. Age: 37
  5. Posts: 10,589
  6. Rep Power: 117458
Originally Posted By ThenMaestro⏩
Overall physical consistency of development is apparently overrated,

Doing an exercise 1nce and finding that it's aneasiervariation proves it's better, and that you're stronger.



Just say that you're tired of OHP as many people are, and get over it, stop trying to justify your weakness of spirit with bravado, it's sad.
I find it impressive that you're that dumb if that's all you got from this....
post 1592067431 11-21-2019, 05:31 PM
-
#88
  1. ThenMaestro
  2. Officially Sicilian
  1. ThenMaestro
  2. Officially Sicilian
  3. Join Date: Oct 2019
  4. Posts: 842
  5. Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I find it impressive that you're that dumb if that's all you got from this....
True wisdom is understanding the simplicity of the underlying truth.

Your words, your "science", and your logic exist to justify your hidden fears.

Get help, get better, we'll be waiting for you
post 1592067591 11-21-2019, 05:34 PM
-
#89
  1. allianc3
  2. Lifetime natty
  1. allianc3
  2. Lifetime natty
  3. Join Date: Jul 2008
  4. Location: Chad
  5. Posts: 10,720
  6. Rep Power: 76318
Originally Posted By ThenMaestro⏩
True wisdom is understanding the simplicity of the underlying truth.

Your words, your "science", and your logic exist to justify your hidden fears.

Get help, get better, we'll be waiting for you
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
post 1592067771 11-21-2019, 05:38 PM
-
#90
  1. Madevilz
  2. in10city stalker
  1. Madevilz
  2. in10city stalker
  3. Join Date: Jan 2005
  4. Location: Montreal █♣█
  5. Age: 41
  6. Posts: 18,612
  7. Rep Power: 70517
Lateral raises > OHP
An overhead press movement should be a staple still.
IG: @tuanlifts
Quick Navigation Top Misc
Bookmarks
Digg.com
Digg
del.icio.us
del.icio.us
Stumbleupon.com
StumbleUpon
Google.com
Google
Facebook.com
Facebook
Posting Permissions
  1. You may not post new threads
  2. You may not post replies
  3. You may not post attachments
  4. You may not edit your posts