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Thread: Mind = Blown that so many people waste their time with standing OHP

post 1592067831 11-21-2019, 05:39 PM
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Your words, your "science", and your logic exist to justify your hidden fears.

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post 1592067941 11-21-2019, 05:41 PM
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Looks like a fun exercise, will try these OP.

Ya, I do seated OHP currently because it's easier on my lower back, I feel like its more targeted/isolated. I have a bad back, gotta be real careful.

What angle do you have the bench at?
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post 1592068041 11-21-2019, 05:43 PM
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I don't think many people say they're a great dealt builder. It's just a good movement for general pressing strength.
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post 1592068211 11-21-2019, 05:48 PM
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I broke through some barriers with DB press by adding some seated Push Presses in the mix. They have their use.
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I enjoy it. My push day is:

Flat barbell bench
Standing ohp
dumbbell bench (deep, below chest level)
tricep extensions
close grip flat barbell bench

I'd rather do standing ohp and get some core work in with shoulders/triceps. I think a full body movement always beats an isolated movement when it is something so similar. You gain much more than you lose.
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post 1592068301 11-21-2019, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted By jordanair45⏩
Looks like a fun exercise, will try these OP.

Ya, I do seated OHP currently because it's easier on my lower back, I feel like its more targeted/isolated. I have a bad back, gotta be real careful.

What angle do you have the bench at?
It's one click below vertical. Not only does it feel better on my the shoulders, but it also really puts the front delt in a great alignment to do work
post 1592068761 11-21-2019, 05:59 PM
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[QUOTE=ThenMaestro post_id=1592066801]Overall physical consistency of development is apparently overrated,

Doing an exercise 1nce and finding that it's an[b]easier[/b]variation proves it's better, and that you're stronger.

[IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS/giphy.gif[/IMG

Just say that you're tired of OHP as many people are, and get over it, stop trying to justify your weakness of spirit with bravado, it's sad.[/QUOTE]Not trying to dink ride but if you think OP is weak spirited/minded when it comes to training go watch a few videos on his Insta and then form a more educated opinion. I don't always agree with his methods but the dude trains balls to the wall and anybody with an IQ above double digits can see that.
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post 1592068861 11-21-2019, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Not trying to dink ride but if you think OP is weak spirited/minded when it comes to training go watch a few videos on his Insta and then form a more educated opinion. I don't always agree with his methods but the dude trains balls to the wall and anybody with an IQ above double digits can see that.
Haha preesh , thanks brah! People ITT a bit rustled over some click bait. There are obviously instances where the standing OHP is a great option, whether it’s overall strength or just bc someone enjoys it
post 1592069361 11-21-2019, 06:15 PM
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I do it seated too, but i do it closer to 90 degress angle, you seem to be almost doing incline bench
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
Pretend they don't exist because I don't lift for women or to step on stage

OHPing for abs is the equivalent of people calling deadlifts a grip exercise
You only lift for men right?
post 1592069601 11-21-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By BigB2019⏩
You only lift for men right?
If you lift for big weights and big shredded physique, then yes, you lift for men. If you lift for women you would just focus on low bf and not that much mass, aka ripped twink
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post 1592069621 11-21-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By BigB2019⏩
You only lift for men right?
BigButt2, no, that's not it at all

There's a lot of fulfillment to be found by developing your being.

Ninja school dropouts would never understand that, honor was never part of your curriculum.

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Calls one of the core and best exercises for shoulders a waste of time.




Then these guys got the nerve to wonder why their traps, upper back and rear delts are so chit.


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post 1592069811 11-21-2019, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By GrammarNaziM8⏩
Calls one of the core and best exercises for shoulders a waste of time.




Then these guys got the nerve to wonder why their traps, upper back and rear delts are so chit.


Hahaha
If you wanna compare any of those body parts, lemme know

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post 1592069871 11-21-2019, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Not trying to dink ride but if you think OP is weak spirited/minded when it comes to training go watch a few videos on his Insta and then form a more educated opinion. I don't always agree with his methods but the dude trains balls to the wall and anybody with an IQ above double digits can see that.
Was slightly kidding, but am now aware, OP isn't a charlatan.
post 1592069971 11-21-2019, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted By TheRealCake⏩
I do it seated too, but i do it closer to 90 degress angle, you seem to be almost doing incline bench
Not really, the arm path and angle is putting my front delt fibers in great alignment with the line of force.
Originally Posted By BigB2019⏩
You only lift for men right?
Precisely
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if you really wanted bigger shoulders you wouldn't do either
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Originally Posted By jordanair45⏩
Looks like a fun exercise, will try these OP.

Ya, I do seated OHP currently because it's easier on my lower back, I feel like its more targeted/isolated. I have a bad back, gotta be real careful.

What angle do you have the bench at?
How is your back "bad"?
Probably just chit form with a weak core/stabalizers.

OT: Seated OHP is great for keeping them strict, full tension on targeted muscles. You can't cheat them because you can do a push press. But no core engagement.
Standing OHP does the above plus added core stabilization.

I don't give a **** if you don't want a 6 pack or whatever your excuse is.
If your core cannot stabilize you, and you refuse to work on it (by doing seated exercises) then you're going to have issues now or later on.
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
if you really wanted bigger shoulders you wouldn't do either
Aweir. There was a point for like 3-4 months last year that I hit side delts before presses
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Originally Posted By GrammarNaziM8⏩
Calls one of the core and best exercises for shoulders a waste of time.




Then these guys got the nerve to wonder why their traps, upper back and rear delts are so chit.


Hahaha
And because yours are so great? And how is it one of 'the best shoulder exercises'? WTF does that even mean? Best for what? Size? Strength? Comparing dink size? There is no 'one best exercise' for anything
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy⏩
I broke through some barriers with DB press by adding someseated Push Pressesin the mix. They have their use.
how in the **** do you do a seated push press?
SS + GOMAD is all you need srs
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
I enjoy it. My push day is:

Flat barbell bench
Standing ohp
dumbbell bench (deep, below chest level)
tricep extensions
close grip flat barbell bench

I'd rather do standing ohp and get some core work in with shoulders/triceps. I think a full body movement always beats an isolated movement when it is something so similar. You gain much more than you lose.
How does a full body movement always beat an isolated movement? As I pointed out with the other poster, how can one exercise 'beat' another? How is it beating it? When it comes to building mass? Gaining strength? Improving stability? Context matters here guys.
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Originally Posted By Synchroniicity⏩
How is your back "bad"?
Probably just chit form with a weak core/stabalizers.

OT: Seated OHP is great for keeping them strict, full tension on targeted muscles. You can't cheat them because you can do a push press. But no core engagement.
Standing OHP does the above plus added core stabilization.

I don't give a **** if you don't want a 6 pack or whatever your excuse is.
If your core cannot stabilize you, and you refuse to work on it (by doing seated exercises) then you're going to have issues now or later on.
I don't have a great six pack, but I can RDL 4 plates without folding like a taco, it can't be that terrible lol
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
They're not my favorite exercise for shoulders, but the OP is an idiot for saying they're a waste of time.

Entering this thread...was an actual waste of time.
That's the only real consensus here.

OP is a phony, boo that man!!
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
That's the only real consensus here.

OP is a phony, boo that man!!
https://i.imgur.com/01kFnzJ.jpg

Confirming OP is a ******* and knows nothing about the deltoid muscle.
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Thanks for taking a whole squat rack to do an exercise where you can clean the bar from the floor. People who use the rack for OHP are the biggest *******s.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
Thanks for taking a whole squat rack to do an exercise where you can clean the bar from the floor. People who use the rack for OHP are the biggest *******s.
You must have missed the pause on the rack each rep. Also gym is dead at 2 pm. Also, there's two other racks. Also, barely anyone here squats more than 2 plates, so they can just clean that up too
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Just lmao at training shoulders hard in 2019

I just did hammer strength shoulder presses with a whole entire 45lb PLATE a side tonight.

Chit was lit
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Originally Posted By ThenMaestro⏩
BigButt2, no, that's not it at all

There's a lot of fulfillment to be found by developing your being.

Ninja school dropouts would never understand that, honor was never part of your curriculum.

A true ninja would want you to believe he dropped out of ninja school. Checkmate.
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Originally Posted By jk202⏩
I don't have a great six pack, but I can RDL 4 plates without folding like a taco, it can't be that terrible lol
Nah man, you're core be strong af than.
Rectus abdominus (6-pack muscle) only allows trunk flexion.
TVA, Obliques, Multifidi, Intercoastals, Erectors, QL, couple other small muscles all work synergistically to protect and support the spine.
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