Why did you post so many times in this thread if you "Don't give a chit what we think" ???

Funny how all the intelligent people I know on this forum are all in agreement that this situation was handled terribly wrong, yet two of you LEO's come out of the woodworks to defend murder. I don't know what else to do but laugh at your ridiculous ego's. I'd have more respect for the police if they could admit they made some bad decisions and some justice was served to prevent a mistake like this happening again. But instead you guys won't admit to anything wrong whatsoever even though everybody on here can see right through you guys.

And honestly it makes me very uncomfortable to have people like you wearing a badge. You call people "cupcake", you belittle anyone that doesn't agree with you and you clearly are emotional and butthurt which no cop should be like. Posting away like a child, not even answering questions that are serious but instead replying with another immature question..."What would you do?" You just said none of us are cops and none of us have been in life or death situations (which you don't even know is true or not) so why are you asking such "idiotic" (your words) questions?

Both of you cops in this thread have blatantly disrespected the diseased already with your unprofessional posts and like I said it makes me very uncomfortable knowing there are cops out there with your weak mindsets and such power. It would be a good idea for any LEO to not post in here unless they can maintain their cool, not put anyone down and intelligently explain why this turned out the way it did. But that hasn't happened in 10 pages so this thread should be locked imo.

Didn't read much chit ITT but from the video I saw I agree with this guy ^

usually pro cop, but this can't be justified. especially when you have a bystander shot and killed. do they know if it was the cop that shot the bystander or the perps?

I'm pretty sure there isn't confirmation who's bullet killed the two innocents. I'm sure we will know soon. That PD is going to be under fire if they are police bullets regardless of anyone's stance on this.

will say it again and again, when firearms are involved, they need a properly trained swat team to handle the situation. thats probably the first time alot of those officers fired there weapons live

one mrap that so many police departments have would have solved this without getting any civilians killed

10/10 post you said it way better than I ever could. It's nothing short of bizarre the way people have asked genuine questions and are met with condescension and immaturity for absolutely no reason. Yeah some of the replies have been pointed but for the most part people are asking for clarification and are met with "Google it" "Cupcake" "Chief" and other ridiculousness. It's fuking embarrassing how emotional these guys get, now imagine them in the same scenario. Of course they're defending it, all they know is to be reactionary and to escalate.

sad news broinnocent bystand shot in car. cops ain't got no sense here, they have a hostage you just don't charge in your not swat! Common sense to maintain distance and try to communicate get swat and snipers in. Once they are trapped in the traffic.

Yea. Either way, it was dumb of police to engage the way they did...it put the guy's life at risk.

You are pathetic. Take the bet you fukking loser

You guys seem pretty sensative. Maybe the internet isnt for you? The egos are the ones in here who have never done the job yet want to tell LEOs how to handle life or death situations. This situation is tragic but it was caused 100% by the actions of the suspects. The cops wete forced into action based on the suspects actions. Period

dhawk rustling some serious jimmies ITT

I'm doing my best inferring from whatever word salad and jumbled mess of letters loosely resembling words you've just posted, but I don't think it's us who are sensitive.

Bet those cops were dreaming of that scenario since the day they entered the force

Hopefully this causes 'Merica to wake and up their police standards

Seems like if you aren't going anywhere in life, just become a police officer. Too many potatoes ****ing up because "muh stress".

I'm usually a defender of LEOs because 99% of them have good intentions and I can't even imagine the split second decisions they have to make in extremely stressful situations... BUUUTTTTT.....

They clearly ****ed up here and should be held accountable.

I think anyone who's defending them is focused on their intent. I have no doubt their intent was pure, but they ****ed up and 2 innocent people died... If we don't hold people accountable for their actions, we will have anarchy.

The UPS driver leaves behind 2 daughters - aged 3 and 6... That hits deep...

cops are scary, anyone with a pulse knows this. the common saying they have "get home to your family" they dont care if you make it to your family though.

When they shot him too, that put his life at risk as well

If you cant read plain english then you have no business commenting. From your neg its obvious you are a sensative sally. Call your mom and cry about it to her

Then what is even the point of police? If it's duty of the individual citizen to protect themselves, why should their tax dollars fund your lazy ass.

Alot of poster salivate at the chance to bash cops and its on display in this thread. I believe most were probably loser druggies as kids who feel they were harassed by cops so now they love it when cops "fail" so they can get a tiny little chub bashing them online

Its pretty sad and pathetic

Lol no they fukking weren't, this whole thing was completely mismanaged from the beginning.

They had helis tracking the van, and the van itself had tracking on it because UPS truck.

There was zero reason for 80+ police cars to be chasing it 20 fukking miles through south FL when they could've just kept tabs on it with the helis and waited for them to abandon it, and zero reason for them to corner and engage the truck when it got stuck in a packed fukking road and start unloading at it with rifles.

The whole lot of them should be fired, especially one ones who were using occupied civilian cars as cover in a goddamn gunfight, like wtf

Read what you quoted and the answer is right there dumb fuk

Not sure why i have to keep repeating myself but this isnt a "tracking" situation

No one cares if you think they should be fired or not

I haven't read any of this thread, so idk what cope you've been spouting in here but it definitely was a tracking situation, police with half a brain will just hang back with cars and track with a heli while closing off the area and preparing for when they inevitably abandon the truck & hostage or get somewhere more secluded.

These chucklefuks were right on it's ass in crowded surface streets which led to it being trapped and the gunfight breaking out when it didn't fukking have to. Especially when there's a goddamn hostage onboard.

Seen lots of ex-military and LEO come out and say this is the worst display of policing they've ever seen in their life, it's indefensible.

Neat

Its not a tracking situation

cope harder, and keep blindly defending cause muh thin blue line bullchit

This kinda trash is why no one likes or trusts police

this is what's wrong with society.. the police are always to blame, for everything.

you have 2 punks that rob a store, probably with an illegal firearm, and the police stop that threat, yet they're blamed because 2 innocent people died.

yes it's ****in sad, sad as hell, but the police are trained to respond and deal with situations as they come. there's a lot of **** happening all at once and they're doing their best.

not 1 police officer that responded to that call wanted the UPS driver or other person to be killed, and frankly, probably didn't even want these punks to be killed either, but it ****in happened because of the actions of thePUNKS NOT POLICE

You want to blame the cops no matter what but dont want to blame the criminals who took a woman hostage and decided to shoot at the cops in a crowded intersection

Thats whats trash you pathetic coward

this guys they are trying their best be nice to them!

man you are retarded. the police have a mandate, and they screwed the pooch on that mandate.

you're telling me if a bunch of armed robers get forced into a mall, by the police, and start shooting at the police, the police can airstrike the mall and the fault lies with the "baddies"? lmao