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post 1593411101 12-12-2019, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By DZdun7
How can people watch this crap? A bunch of slack-jawed *******s in this video.
tried to watch a bit of it and stopped right away. all those people are losers
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post 1593411161 12-12-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
Really? At what age? Seems like am activity women 35+ would do

Edit: gotta be honest I bombed so hard with my oneitis recently I almost want to throw in the towel.
Theres a mix between young and old.
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Originally Posted By Basiliskboy
Yeah i started watching just chatting after seeing the livestream fails stuff on youtube. So many of these guys who would otherwise be considered forever alone incel losers are pulling like crazy. Nerd chicks are hot now. I have no idea how these 10/10's are watching this degeneracy on twitch.

First 30 seconds. 5 foot bald manlet twink walks in like he's the tallest alpha in the room. Mindset > everything.


also notice the dork making the comment about his height trying to mog him. It doesnt even phase him and vest guy looks like a fckn idiot lmao.
LMAO!

That's my man Sliker.

That brah has ADHD and is one of the least inhibited people that I've seen.

Brah openly calls himself an incel, and complains that women don't want him due to his height, but that I've cracked up as he's blatantly rejected women who have openly expressed that they are attracted to him.

Everyone roasts him about his height, I think he's numb to it now. But he also roasts other people.

I also cracked up one time when guys on a stream were talking about not lasting long in bed, and whilst eating on camera and not even looking up at the camera just said "I've got premature ejaculation, I'm not gonna lie", and just went back to eating without saying another word.

I love Sliker.

Jon Zherka and Sliker crack me up.

Twitch is a sub-culture where the girls genuinely do care about personality. I've seen a lot of girls genuinely be turned off by good looking guys with 'normie' or chitty personalities. A lot of the girls are legit nerds and weebs, and want men who are into that same stuff.
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Originally Posted By DZdun7
How can people watch this crap? A bunch of slack-jawed *******s in this video.
for real, that video is geh as ****
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That doesn't work here. The guys who cry and moan and bitch about this are more satisfied hiding among their echo chambers and enabling other ****ing losers in their cope telling each other reasons why they don't have any chance with women while blaming it on their skin colour or height or hair or facial structure.
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Originally Posted By Mike1991
50% of the population is female. It's literally as easy as convincing half the people to like you. It's really not hard. You incels make it seem like rocket science just to get laid. Go to a bar, approach women and be fun to be around for a few hours. 80% of the time you'll go home with something at the end of the night
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
Theres a mix between young and old.
I'll start given it a shot. I guess the kind of girls who would try something like that are better material than the live, laugh, love starbucks types.

Coming off such a monumental defeat is rough though.
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I like OP's mindset, he's talking like a MAN unlike a lot of these whining babies on the Misc.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
I'll start given it a shot. I guess the kind of girls who would try something like that are better material than the live, laugh, love starbucks types.

Coming off such a monumental defeat is rough though.
Yes man do it. Go into knowing you won't be great right away. Stick with it and go to any socials or clubs that are around. Don't do it just to get laid. Women will sniff you out from a mile away and black list you. Just last Saturday there was this guy and although he was a decent dancer he was getting way too sexual with girls. So eventually the women all turned him down when he asked to dance.
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You've got to meet women if you want to fuk women. It's that simple.

That being said, some men are going to struggle with women and miss a lot more than they hit, which requires a lot more commitment to it than Chad does. So at that point it's an ROI question. How many hours are you going to spend on girls doing stuff you frankly don't enjoy and usually don't succeed at, when you could be using that time to do something fun or make more money.

I mean, why would you spend 20 hrs/week to pick up one 3/10 every other month when you can blast a phat load to a 9/10 getting anoos-fukked by a Mexican troll on your cell phone and spent that other 19.8 hours chilling on the misc. Or what if you're working 80 hours a week on a startup, and the whole thing goes under if you ever stop and quit, so you don't have 20 hrs/week to chase women. Or say you're on a military base and those 20 hrs/week would just be you sitting in a bar competing with 100 other fit young dudes for a couple dependapotamuses.

What do you get for that 20 hours a week, and what could you being doing with it instead? I agree that you have no right to bitch if you're not trying, but from an ROI and opportunity cost perspective, giving up on women could be a very rational move.

I've said it before, dating is like sales. The question is, how much money can you lose before you're better off quitting the business?
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I said 'lots of', and yes of course i was exaggerating to make a point.

There's two main types of incel:
1. Those who are very anti social, don't want to help themselves and are their own worst enemy - you probably fall under this, they can't get laid because they lack basic social skills, and in your situation look down on others and are very judgemental, all whilst moaning about not being able to meet anyone (although most of them don't have a GF waiting at home while they're crying about it...). They are also extremely unrealistic about what they offer (i.e they think they're top 10%). How can these kind of people expect to get top tier females?

2. Those who are simply genetically lower tier males, in which case what's the issue with getting the female genetic equivalent of themselves?

So basically, incels have some kind of issue blocking them from getting laid that makes them a less desirable male.. .whether it's poor social skills, being extremely negative, looking down on others or simply being low tier genetically. So what exactly is the problem with them getting a women who is less desirable, since that's their female equivalent?Not everyone can get the best women, this is just common sense.. and if you want higher quality women then you need to work at making yourself into a higher quality male. If you don't put the work in, you can't moan... you're not entitled to any woman you desire, you get what you can get.
IMO, the problem is that every woman has something men want, while some men don't haveanything women want.

If you are 5'5", bald, socially awkward, and making $25K a year, no woman's going to get tingles for you. Not even ugly girls, not even broke girls, and even single moms in project housing would be hard-pressed to want to fuk you. Some men are frankly undesirable, and it's always been that way.

There have been lots andlotsof men who have died FA throughout the history of mankind, especially in polygamous societies. It all comes down to you hoping that you can be the exception that beats probability.
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Originally Posted By FA*******
You've got to meet women if you want to fuk women. It's that simple.

That being said, some men are going to struggle with women and miss a lot more than they hit, which requires a lot more commitment to it than Chad does. So at that point it's an ROI question. How many hours are you going to spend on girls doing stuff you frankly don't enjoy and usually don't succeed at, when you could be using that time to do something fun or make more money.

I mean, why would you spend 20 hrs/week to pick up one 3/10 every other month when you can blast a phat load to a 9/10 getting anoos-fukked by a Mexican troll on your cell phone and spent that other 19.8 hours chilling on the misc. Or what if you're working 80 hours a week on a startup, and the whole thing goes under if you ever stop and quit, so you don't have 20 hrs/week to chase women. Or say you're on a military base and those 20 hrs/week would just be you sitting in a bar competing with 100 other fit young dudes for a couple dependapotamuses.

What do you get for that 20 hours a week, and what could you being doing with it instead? I agree that you have no right to bitch if you're not trying, but from an ROI and opportunity cost perspective, giving up on women could be a very rational move.

I've said it before, dating is like sales. The question is, how much money can you lose before you're better off quitting the business?



IMO, the problem is that every woman has something men want, while some men don't haveanything women want.

If you are 5'5", bald, socially awkward, and making $25K a year, no woman's going to get tingles for you. Not even ugly girls, not even broke girls, and even single moms in project housing would be hard-pressed to want to fuk you. Some men are frankly undesirable, and it's always been that way.

There have been lots andlotsof men who have died FA throughout the history of mankind, especially in polygamous societies. It all comes down to you hoping that you can be the exception that beats probability.
GREAT POST, will rep if I'm ever green. Exactly my views on it.

At some point the odds of finding someone are so low it doesnt make sense. Quit the business.

And yes perfect way to put it that some men just doesnt got it. it's always been that way by nature we are polygamous. Women share the desirable and leave the rest for dead
post 1593418821 12-12-2019, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
Yes man do it. Go into knowing you won't be great right away. Stick with it and go to any socials or clubs that are around. Don't do it just to get laid. Women will sniff you out from a mile away and black list you. Just last Saturday there was this guy and although he was a decent dancer he was getting way too sexual with girls. So eventually the women all turned him down when he asked to dance.
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OP makes it sound like it's so easy, for some it's really not.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck
I remember when I saw pics of incels on forums.

They the majority were average looking, or even would be rated as good looking. What I think they had in common was mental health problems. Anxiety, Depression, or just really poor social skills due to never socializing IRL and only online.

I was following the Twitich 'just chatting' community for about 6 months this year, and the amount of guys that I saw that the misc would tear apart for their looks who had GFs, would shock the misc. What they all had in common was popularity in that sub-culture, and good social skills(seemingly just a williness to do something embarrassing, or act goofy).
One time me and buddy had two girls over and they looked like they were starting to get bored so we went into the bathroom did some nose candy and came out butt naked with nothing but guitars covering our junk and played and rapped Gangsta's Paradise. We were both getting laid within a half hour lol
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Originally Posted By badreligion
OP makes it sound like it's so easy, for some it's really not.
I agree that it's not easy but unless you put serious effort into it including bettering yourself then don't complain.
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
I agree that it's not easy but unless you put serious effort into it including bettering yourself then don't complain.
What you call "complaining" could just be people thinking out loud or venting which is a healthy practice. There is complaining yes but most of the time it's really not.
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Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
I agree that it's not easy but unless you put serious effort into it including bettering yourself then don't complain.
this is the one thing about the misc that makes me believe that 99% of you are retarded.


there are some ugly men in this world. women do not like physically unattractive men even the ugly girls. even little kids understand this. go use tinder and see how ANY woman can get 1000+ matches on tinder in under a day from wealthy goodlooking men. why would they settle for ugly average income men? they don’t.
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Originally Posted By badreligion
OP makes it sound like it's so easy, for some it's really not.
Mostly the FA's, because they are defeatist. Take someone who is a defeatist and another who has high confidence, and getting them to do the same social task will be like night and day.

I know personally because I used to be a depressed kunt who repelled people. Now I'm one of the most social people I know.
Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
this is the one thing about the misc that makes me believe that 99% of you are retarded.


there are some ugly men in this world. women do not like physically unattractive men even the ugly girls. even little kids understand this. go use tinder and see how ANY woman can get 1000+ matches on tinder in under a day from wealthy goodlooking men. why would they settle for ugly average income men? they don’t.
Then why are there ugly guys with hot women? They are attractive in other ways besides their facial symmetry and bodies.

You should know what you're getting into with online dating. It's literally like a cock buffet for girls.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
this is the one thing about the misc that makes me believe that 99% of you are retarded.


there are some ugly men in this world. women do not like physically unattractive men even the ugly girls. even little kids understand this. go use tinder and see how ANY woman can get 1000+ matches on tinder in under a day from wealthy goodlooking men. why would they settle for ugly average income men? they don’t.
Well then I guess the question is what do we do?

Im not butt ugly but certainly not overly attractive, I am about 6'1, in shape, make decent money. Mediocre social skills. I can be myself around women when I dont care about them but get uptight when I do. I failed incredibly hard on dating sites and at my age I'm just getting a little fatigued.

Recently I stepped down from a role, took a 25% pay cut, and restructured my life to focus on other things I want to enjoy. I was so busy climbing the coporate ladder I didn't realize I was living a life I never wanted. At the end of the day my oneitis was so uniterested in me she didnt even give me the chance to show her all my materialistic crap and money. I realized it was worthless.

So now I took my pay cut, moved to a cool city, got a little studio and Im working on becoming a firefighter. I think id rather get the new 2020 Harley Street Bob than a girlfriend at this point. Id also like to become debt free and travel. I might just end up one of those guys. Late 30s early 40s with a bunch of toys and free time. Little lonely but Im not super fatherly anyways.

I hear those guys do better getting laid wise at that stage. But by then who cares?
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Mostly the FA's, because they are defeatist. Take someone who is a defeatist and another who has high confidence, and getting them to do the same social task will be like night and day.

I know personally because I used to be a depressed kunt who repelled people. Now I'm one of the most social people I know.
Ive just recent fallen into this trap.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
Well then I guess the question is what do we do?

Im not butt ugly but certainly not overly attractive, I am about 6'1, in shape, make decent money. Mediocre social skills. I can be myself around women when I dont care about them but get uptight when I do. I failed incredibly hard on dating sites and at my age I'm just getting a little fatigued.

Recently I stepped down from a role, took a 25% pay cut, and restructured my life to focus on other things I want to enjoy. I was so busy climbing the coporate ladder I didn't realize I was living a life I never wanted. At the end of the day my oneitis was so uniterested in me she didnt even give me the chance to show her all my materialistic crap and money. I realized it was worthless.

So now I took my pay cut, moved to a cool city, got a little studio and Im working on becoming a firefighter. I think id rather get the new 2020 Harley Street Bob than a girlfriend at this point. Id also like to become debt free and travel. I might just end up one of those guys. Late 30s early 40s with a bunch of toys and free time. Little lonely but Im not super fatherly anyways.

I hear those guys do better getting laid wise at that stage. But by then who cares?




Ive just recent fallen into this trap.
Just understand that girls are going to be drawn less to what you do/have relative to how you act. It helps a little but there's also unemployed losers who get laid consistently because they're that smooth.

The point of those pursuits is that they make you grow and develop as a person, on top of implying that you're competent/brave/ambitious/etc. They enhance your life in other ways besides pulling women which incels hyper focus on.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Then why are there ugly guys with hot women? They are attractive in other ways besides their facial symmetry and bodies.
Ugly guys with hot women is very rare. Only on the misc do people claim its common.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
Well then I guess the question is what do we do?
that’s the thing, life isn’t fair. not every man will be successful with women. throughout history several billions of men died without reproducing, it’s narcissistic to believe that you are any different just because you put in effort.

kids in haiti eat dirt mixed with wheat grains for food. people in syria are being bombed on a daily basis. in the US 30% of young men haven’t had sex in the past year.

if you genuinely can’t get women you have to pay for hookers, stick to pornography, or give up. not any more complex than that.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Ugly guys with hot women is very rare. Only on the misc do people claim common.
Still happens. And even more common is average looking guys with hot women.

Take Angie Varona, who miscers still hnnnggg over and has over 2 million followers. The last guy she was with was a an ugly, balding DYEL who was barely taller than her. Literally the physical representation of an FA on the misc.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Still happens. And even more common is average looking guys with hot women.

Take Angie Varona, who miscers still hnnnggg over and has over 2 million followers. The last guy she was with was a an ugly, balding DYEL who was barely taller than her. Literally the physical representation of an FA on the misc.
Look at Christina Hendricks husband for fuk sake. He was the snosberries guy in super troopers.
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Originally Posted By SuperChieftain
Look at Christina Hendricks husband for fuk sake. He was the snosberries guy in super troopers.
Just like someone involved in politics, incels play down or ignore countering examples and have confirmation bias.

I know guys personally who by misc standards are less attractive than me (shorter, balding, overweight, non-lifters, low income, acne, wrinkles, etc) but they're social ninjas, they pull girls way easier than I can.
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn
that’s the thing, life isn’t fair. not every man will be successful with women. throughout history several billions of men died without reproducing, it’s narcissistic to believe that you are any different just because you put in effort.

kids in haiti eat dirt mixed with wheat grains for food. people in syria are being bombed on a daily basis. in the US 30% of young men haven’t had sex in the past year.

if you genuinely can’t get women you have to pay for hookers, stick to pornography, or give up. not any more complex than that.
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Originally Posted By Mike1991
50% of the population is female. It's literally as easy as convincing half the people to like you. It's really not hard. You incels make it seem like rocket science just to get laid. Go to a bar, approach women and be fun to be around for a few hours. 80% of the time you'll go home with something at the end of the night
Ridiculous comment. Just because it hasn't been hard for you doesn't mean it isn't for most men.
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made a run at this good looking blonde that used to be my homeboys lady years ago for like the 5th time. got left on read.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Just like someone involved in politics, incels play down or ignore countering examples and have confirmation bias.

I know guys personally who by misc standards are less attractive than me (shorter, balding, overweight, non-lifters, low income, acne, wrinkles, etc) but they're social ninjas, they pull girls way easier than I can.
It all comes down to your attitude about your situation. Have a negative attitude, expect negative results.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
This
LOL at narcissistic, it's basic human biology.

But God knows you've been given plenty of advice on this. By all means, remove yourself from the gene pool. Other incels will actually change for the better.
Originally Posted By SuperChieftain
It all comes down to your attitude about your situation. Have a negative attitude, expect negative results.
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