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Thread: Misc Firearms Crew LXXV: It's Not the End of the World, But You Can See it From Here

post 1593781861 12-18-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Any better 9mm prices than Target Sports? Lawman 115gr for $165/case shipped.
The gundeals sub regularly posts "deal" prices higher than that lol I'd say you're good right there
post 1593785081 12-18-2019, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
are these rounds unsafe to use? .40 S&W 165gr, so there's room but... over-pressure?

edit: specifically the top 4 in the pic. The next 5 I think are ok. The bottom one is seated correctly for comparison.

edit2: decided not to use the top 4 because I'm not trying to save 10 cents. lol. still want to know out of curiosity.

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post 1593785541 12-18-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
might pick this one up for christmas...thought?

https://www.classicfirearms.com/hk-p...m-15-rnd-grey/
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post 1593785651 12-18-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Any better 9mm prices than Target Sports? Lawman 115gr for $165/case shipped.
I dunno. I don’t worry about $10 here or there for a case. I’ve been buying 124g S&B from SGammo.

I got my stuff together to go to the range on lunch and then forgot it all by the door. : (
post 1593785741 12-18-2019, 07:25 AM
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What’s up with these Zev OZ9s?

I was really excited when they came out but then they seemed kind of gimmicky, especially for what they cost. I see some on Instagram but I figure most of those were free so not really sure if they are legit or not.
post 1593787581 12-18-2019, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
What’s up with these Zev OZ9s?

I was really excited when they came out but then they seemed kind of gimmicky, especially for what they cost. I see some on Instagram but I figure most of those were free so not really sure if they are legit or not.
A food and his money
post 1593788761 12-18-2019, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
A food and his money
Why does food have money?
post 1593789211 12-18-2019, 08:31 AM
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post 1593789691 12-18-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By benz5521⏩
What’s up with these Zev OZ9s?

I was really excited when they came out but then they seemed kind of gimmicky, especially for what they cost. I see some on Instagram but I figure most of those were free so not really sure if they are legit or not.
It's a Glock disguised to not seem to much like a Glock.
post 1593792851 12-18-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
HK DA/SA triggers are heavy and gritty as fk. 100% aids. Would never own. Rather throw rocks at attacker.
cz sa/da master race am I right boys
post 1593795261 12-18-2019, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted By weightsb4dates⏩
cz sa/da master race am I right boys
Correct.
post 1593797641 12-18-2019, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
because without an external safety u can just pull the trigger and it shoots
Find whatever firearm fits your hand best then train with it.
Take at least a beginner course of some sort before making your purchase. When I lived in Vegas most ranges offered something for beginners.
To address your concerns about safety nothing will surpass regular (not once or twice a year at the range) training with the firearm that you will carry. Take random firearm classes offered at many of the different ranges in the Vegas valley - it doesn't need to be from a nationally known guy in some random state or at the Sig Academy. That will address many of your concerns and you will be better off for it.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
You don't know what you want. You don't know what any of this is, how any of this works, what the pros and cons are, you don't know what you want.

And what you just said you want kind of doesn't exist.

Get training before you buy a gun. Rent/borrow for the classes. Start watching hickok45 videos on every specific gun you are interested in and take the suggested videos to spin off from there.
This for all new firearm owners. Farley isn't being a dick he is being blunt and to the point - nothing beats putting in the time to read and research the subject matter and then taking classes taught by people who have more experience and knowledge than you. The sole exception to this is law school.
post 1593799331 12-18-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
My daughter just got her acceptance letter to University of Denver . . .

and with $6k/year more in scholarship money than her brother. That will be a little less ramen I'll have to eat.
I earned my JD and tax LLM from there. Does your daughter ski or snowboard? She will learn very soon. She will also be bombarded by liberals and their illogical nonsense.

Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
By the way, random question but why in debates does everyone anti gun say there needs to be universal background checks...dont we pretty much already have those?
Because those debating know nothing about purchasing or owning firearms.

They are also fans of creating a list of firearm owners as explained by Farley. You know, something that a dictator would want to know so that he/she knows who to target as a "dissident"...
post 1593800351 12-18-2019, 11:03 AM
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Im definitly going to try this one out at the range...it looks badass..ive held the standard beretta and its a bit large for my liking.

https://gunprime.com/product/beretta...-fs-js92f850m/
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post 1593805421 12-18-2019, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By spirit750⏩
I think this is the right choice. $.10 vs blowing up your gun (hand?) is a good choice. The SAAMI minimum/maximum cartridge OAL(over all length) for 40 S&W is 1.085"/1.135".
I didn't even think to check saami. derp.
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
If you can see the bullet setback with the naked eye, it's not worth the risk to shoot. When in doubt, don't.

The pic alone probably isn't enough info to say for sure, either. Hell, shooting them and not getting a KB still might not be enough to say for sure that they are safe to shoot (could be a lot of additional wear/tear or could be the next one breaks something)
yeah, never seen it before so never thought about it. You're right, not worth it even if no KB.
Ended up turning them all in at police station (had to go by there anyway)
Originally Posted By taf1968⏩
Where did they come from? Reloads . . . manufacturer?

(Inb4 wwb)
winchester 100rd pack. they are packaged nose to nose, and all the damaged ones were together. I'm guessing the box was dropped at some point.
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post 1593807321 12-18-2019, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Correct.
If you never tried HKs V1 trigger, you're missing out srs.
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post 1593808671 12-18-2019, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By ibedanny⏩
If you never tried HKs V1 trigger, you're missing out srs.
Don't know about V whatevers, but every hammer fired HK I've shot felt like total dog****.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Don't know about V whatevers, but every hammer fired HK I've shot felt like total dog****.
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I have a sample size of 1 - on my USP the single action pull is fine, but the double action is long, heavy aids. It's smooth, but it's long and heavy and not fun.
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post 1593813771 12-18-2019, 02:07 PM
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do they make guns where u can switch between double and single action?
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post 1593814141 12-18-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
do they make guns where u can switch between double and single action?
Lmao. Still haven't determined if you're a troll or not.

That I'm aware of, no. A DA/SA gun is both, but it can't do every single shot DA after the first unless you decock it after every single shot...which...yeah...not sure why tf anyone would do that aside form strictly practicing DA trigger pull.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
do they make guns where u can switch between double and single action?
On a DA/SA gun if you cock the hammer manually the first shot will be SA and you can decock it after firing to put it back into DA. That's about as close as you'll get to being able to switch

They do make guns where every trigger pull is DA like the Walther Creed or Ruger LCP
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post 1593814731 12-18-2019, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
do they make guns where u can switch between double and single action?
Let us know when you have signed up for a training class.
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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩
do they make guns where u can switch between double and single action?
I think this is something you should watch some videos on or get some in person training on.
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post 1593815291 12-18-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Don't know about V whatevers, but every hammer fired HK I've shot felt like total dog****.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P30

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post 1593815881 12-18-2019, 02:30 PM
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[QUOTE=ibedanny post_id=1593815291][URL=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P30]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P30[/URL]

[youtube]hTz_DOHLOuo[/youtbe][/QUOTE]So the V1 is just a DaO? Sounds like something I don't want. Trigger pull length of peace. CZ with a reach reduction kit looks to be substantially less travel than that in DA and you can get them to ignite any primers at ~5lbs on the DA and under 2 in SA. And not be stuck with a gross DaO pistol.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
So the V1 is just a DaO? Sounds like something I don't want. Trigger pull length of peace. CZ with a reach reduction kit looks to be substantially less travel than that in DA and you can get them to ignite any primers at ~5lbs on the DA and under 2 in SA.
No no.... It's a pre-cocked hammer with super light take up. It's hard to explain. It honestly reminds me of a striker fired pistol with the option of restrike capability.
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Originally Posted By ibedanny⏩
No no.... It's a pre-cocked hammer with super light take up. It's hard to explain. It honestly reminds me of a striker fired pistol with the option of restrike capability.
I had the video on mute, but all I saw is what looked like a nice, long DA trigger. lol
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
I had the video on mute, but all I saw is what looked like a nice, long DA trigger. lol
It is. It’s just a really light DA pull but it’s long as fuark.
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
So the V1 is just a DaO? Sounds like something I don't want. Trigger pull length of peace. CZ with a reach reduction kit looks to be substantially less travel than that in DA and you can get them to ignite any primers at ~5lbs on the DA and under 2 in SA. And not be stuck with a gross DaO pistol.
It's a better DAO than other hammers, but it's no striker

IIRC (it's been awhile) my biggest gripe with it was that it was a longer pull and it broke too far to the rear (same gripe I have the the M2.0, but the forward set apex fixes that)
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