Thread: So You Want to Buy a Handgun
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
When you articulate it in that fashion, then I understand your point. Having a discussion and understanding both points of view is the adult thing to do. Anyway, I don't want to derail your thread any further. My apologies. This is all stemmed from a comment I made about the MP 2.0 Compact.Thinking that the police shouldn't be exempt from laws affecting the rights of individual citizens isn't hating on the police.
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Originally Posted By eatliftskate⏩
Anybody else own a SAR?Just picked up an SAR B6P (cz 75 design.) Extremely cheap and I couldn’t be happier with it. Put 100 rounds though it and it was the most accurate handgun I’ve had the chance to shoot. And this is comparing it to guns 2-3x the price.
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01-06-2020, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By JMath⏩
Alrighty, I'm going to use an analogy here.Except for in his own post he said he disagreed with Farley’s opinion that people should have access to >10 round mags, just like cops. So, he expressed support of the idea that he should be allowed >10 round mags, and the peasants shouldn’t. No, he didn’t write the law, but he pretty clearly articulated support of it.
Next week, the US decides ALL painkillers are banned in the United States for purchase because of some perceived danger. This includes aspirin and Tylenol. A doctor says "I cannot believe they didn't make an exception even for us". That doesn't mean he agree with the ban. It means a that of all people in the society, they are the first ones who would need said item, and it's absurd to take it away from people who literally need said item to do their job correctly.
I fully understand the gun community's disdain for most all of our government. I don't get it toward beat cops and local law enforcement.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Bro, I respect your opinion but let's refrain from derailing the thread about politics and beliefs and keep it too what it was intended for out of respect for the OP.Alrighty, I'm going to use an analogy here.
Next week, the US decides ALL painkillers are banned in the United States for purchase because of some perceived danger. This includes aspirin and Tylenol. A doctor says "I cannot believe they didn't make an exception even for us". That doesn't mean he agree with the ban. It means a that of all people in the society, they are the first ones who would need said item, and it's absurd to take it away from people who literally need said item to do their job correctly.
I fully understand the gun community's disdain for most all of our government. I don't get it toward beat cops and local law enforcement.
Next week, the US decides ALL painkillers are banned in the United States for purchase because of some perceived danger. This includes aspirin and Tylenol. A doctor says "I cannot believe they didn't make an exception even for us". That doesn't mean he agree with the ban. It means a that of all people in the society, they are the first ones who would need said item, and it's absurd to take it away from people who literally need said item to do their job correctly.
I fully understand the gun community's disdain for most all of our government. I don't get it toward beat cops and local law enforcement.
01-06-2020, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Really not sure where this whole redneck thinking comes into play. Nobody anywhere needs to know anything about being a cop to have fundamental idea as to what limitations should or should not be placed on them. You look like an idiot itt.Have fun shooting your 22's at soda cans yelling Murica while you fly your confederate flag. You have no idea what it takes to do our job, what we deal with.
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01-06-2020, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By MoeBettuh⏩
You want to cast a perceived notion over the brothers in blue but when someone does it back to you, you get offended? I am shocked. You look like the stereotypical gun nut in this thread.Really not sure where this whole redneck thinking comes into play. Nobody anywhere needs to know anything about being a cop to have fundamental idea as to what limitations should or should not be placed on them. You look like an idiot itt.
01-06-2020, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Maybe you could stop posting in this thread to call people names when they disagree with you. This detour seems to have a common element.You want to cast a perceived notion over the brothers in blue but when someone does it back to you, you get offended? I am shocked. You look like the stereotypical gun nut in this thread.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Actually the detour started with your snarky comment about me not liking the M&P. I am more than happy to abandon conversation about gun rights and actually talk about firearms.Maybe you could stop posting in this thread to call people names when they disagree with you. This detour seems to have a common element.
01-06-2020, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
This is a great analogy, because the people who need aspirin the most aren't Doctors, but every day citizens. This is exactly the case with law-abiding citizens/cops and guns.Alrighty, I'm going to use an analogy here.
Next week, the US decides ALL painkillers are banned in the United States for purchase because of some perceived danger. This includes aspirin and Tylenol. A doctor says "I cannot believe they didn't make an exception even for us". That doesn't mean he agree with the ban. It means a that of all people in the society, they are the first ones who would need said item, and it's absurd to take it away from people who literally need said item to do their job correctly.
I fully understand the gun community's disdain for most all of our government. I don't get it toward beat cops and local law enforcement.
Next week, the US decides ALL painkillers are banned in the United States for purchase because of some perceived danger. This includes aspirin and Tylenol. A doctor says "I cannot believe they didn't make an exception even for us". That doesn't mean he agree with the ban. It means a that of all people in the society, they are the first ones who would need said item, and it's absurd to take it away from people who literally need said item to do their job correctly.
I fully understand the gun community's disdain for most all of our government. I don't get it toward beat cops and local law enforcement.
This brings us back to:
Citizens should own guns, and I'm available to answer any questions about buying them or choosing one!
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01-06-2020, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Do you see any benefit of the Generation 5 Glocks vs Generations 3 and 4?This is a great analogy, because the people who need aspirin the most aren't Doctors, but every day citizens. This is exactly the case with law-abiding citizens/cops and guns.
This brings us back to:
Citizens should own guns, and I'm available to answer any questions about buying them or choosing one!
This brings us back to:
Citizens should own guns, and I'm available to answer any questions about buying them or choosing one!
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I apologize for angering you when I pointed out that what you said was factually incorrect and supported my position with photos. I can understand how that would lead to you denigrating basically everybody else posting in this thread as mouth breathing rednecks who know nothing of law enforcementActually the detour started with your snarky comment about me not liking the M&P. I am more than happy to abandon conversation about gun rights and actually talk about firearms.
So yeah two of the best handguns one can buy, a Glock 19 or a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm 4"

Or a VP9

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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Listen, I apologize for coming off as an azzhole, was not my intention. If I offended you or anyone else, I am sorry.I apologize for angering you when I pointed out that what you said was factually incorrect and supported my position with photos. I can understand how that would lead to you denigrating basically everybody else posting in this thread as mouth breathing rednecks who know nothing of law enforcement
So yeah two of the best handguns one can buy, a Glock 19 or a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm 4"

Or a VP9

So yeah two of the best handguns one can buy, a Glock 19 or a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm 4"

Or a VP9

In regards to the M&P, I watched numerous vids, shot it, before I bought it, I always felt it to be a tad bigger then the G19. Thicker if you will. It felt like a pissing contest and maybe I overreacted and acted like a little bitch. I am a man and could admit when I am wrong.
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01-06-2020, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Compared to 3? Better grip customization. Dual recoil spring.Do you see any benefit of the Generation 5 Glocks vs Generations 3 and 4?
Compared to 4? Not a lot. Supposedly they improved the barrel and flared the magwell.
Some people like finger grooves, some hate them. The Gen 5 doesn't have them.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Yeah I like the grooves, I picked up a Glock 43X today, getting used to not having the finger grooves, like the fact that they have it all matte black. I might ditch my G26 if I like this one as my off duty.Compared to 3? Better grip customization. Dual recoil spring.
Compared to 4? Not a lot. Supposedly they improved the barrel and flared the magwell.
Some people like finger grooves, some hate them. The Gen 5 doesn't have them.
Compared to 4? Not a lot. Supposedly they improved the barrel and flared the magwell.
Some people like finger grooves, some hate them. The Gen 5 doesn't have them.
01-06-2020, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I like mine a lot, it shoots well, and you learn to love the paddle.Florida Crew as of 3/21
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
Finger grooves, Gen 4. No finger grooves, Gen 5. Biggest noticeable difference. (followed by trigger face serrations)Do you see any benefit of the Generation 5 Glocks vs Generations 3 and 4?
I have all three.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Mine too, but for some reason I can't find a comfortable IWB holster that I am comfortable with. No point in carrying it in a pancake because of the bulge then it's not really concealed.I like mine a lot, it shoots well, and you learn to love the paddle.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Supposedly updated better sights too. I haven't even taken it out of the box yet. I have one more permit to use. Not sure what I want to buy.Finger grooves, Gen 4. No finger grooves, Gen 5. Biggest noticeable difference.
I have all three.
I have all three.
01-06-2020, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
what's their not to like in comparison to The G19? it's literally the same dimensions, albeit a tad bit heavierActually the detour started with your snarky comment about me not liking the M&P. I am more than happy to abandon conversation about gun rights and actually talk about firearms.
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Originally Posted By Meatie⏩
Ok, I deserve that. For one, for a while they were only stocking ones with the thumb safety, which I didn't want, took me forever to find one without it.what's their not to like in comparison to The G19? it's literally the same dimensions, albeit a tad bit heavier
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I had a Stealthgear for it when I carried at 430. I have an M2 Tactical for AIWB (local company) but it's a full size gun, so it will conceal like a full size gun.Mine too, but for some reason I can't find a comfortable IWB holster that I am comfortable with. No point in carrying it in a pancake because of the bulge then it's not really concealed.
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Originally Posted By KingBlumpkin⏩
I can see that this is getting all kumbaya, but I gotta derail again for a second. I didn’t cast some perceived notion over the “brothers in blue” lmao. Read what I have posted itt and then read your response here and lmk if you think your responses are appropriate. ****ing clown.You want to cast a perceived notion over the brothers in blue but when someone does it back to you, you get offended? I am shocked. You look like the stereotypical gun nut in this thread.
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Sup brahs.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
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Originally Posted By John
Check the condition of it. Look for rust, check for excess wear on the slide. Whatever model you're considering, look at whether there are any common failure points. What do they cost to fix?Sup brahs.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
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01-06-2020, 10:15 PM
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on generations of glocks, i have mostly gen 3 with the exception of one gen 4 G21. IMO gen 3 is more aesthetic, but gen 4 feels slightly better in my hands. want to get 2 gen 4 G17s and 2 gen 4 G19s.
in fact glock is basically the only type of traditional semi auto pistol i own (with the exception of a beretta 92FS) you simply cant go wrong with Glock, they are dead nuts reliable, low bore axis, inexpensive and magazines are somewhat interchangeable in the same caliber and double stack configuration.
in fact glock is basically the only type of traditional semi auto pistol i own (with the exception of a beretta 92FS) you simply cant go wrong with Glock, they are dead nuts reliable, low bore axis, inexpensive and magazines are somewhat interchangeable in the same caliber and double stack configuration.
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Currently I have a 4.5" sig mpx. Any recommendations on how to safely secure it in my bedroom while still being able to access it in a reasonable amount of time? Having a 4 year old, there is just no way I will keep an unlocked gun near me.This is a great analogy, because the people who need aspirin the most aren't Doctors, but every day citizens. This is exactly the case with law-abiding citizens/cops and guns.
This brings us back to:
Citizens should own guns, and I'm available to answer any questions about buying them or choosing one!
This brings us back to:
Citizens should own guns, and I'm available to answer any questions about buying them or choosing one!
Its a pretty small subgun but still appears too big for any of the common pistol bedside lockboxes.
Any other tips for safety and small children? Im really terrified of an accident so the gun is just stored far away in the basement and completely useless ATM.
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ETA: ^^ most important thing is to keep it inaccessible to your kid. I’m not aware of good quick access safes for that size of gun, so others may chime in that way. Best may be to get a pistol that can fit in a quick access safe.
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What Ike said, more or less. Used guns are a great way to get into something without breaking the bank. Most ppl never put a lot of rounds through a gun before getting rid of it. Without knowing more, it’s a safe bet to say most of the time you’re gonna be gtg as long as there isn’t excessive wear.Sup brahs.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
What's everyone's opinion on buying a used handgun from a reputable shop? I just got my pistol permit 2 weeks ago and was checking out some guns at my local shop, and they had some used ones that looked in real good shape. They were all $100 or more less than buying new. I'm trying not to break the bank here, but will buy new if I have to. If anyone buys used regularly, what are some things to look out for or check before you buy? I don't know chit about handguns really, never bothered since I was never even legally allowed to brush a finger against one until 2 weeks ago.
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01-07-2020, 12:52 AM
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What are yall's thoughts on the Kel-Tec subs that accept the Glock mags?
I'm considering buying a used one in 9mm since I already have a ton of mags and ammo that will feed, or should I steer clear?
Curious why these are not more popular
What are yall's thoughts on the Kel-Tec subs that accept the Glock mags?
I'm considering buying a used one in 9mm since I already have a ton of mags and ammo that will feed, or should I steer clear?
Curious why these are not more popular
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Originally Posted By mCheech⏩
www.tacticalwalls.comis a great option for magnetic locking concealment.Currently I have a 4.5" sig mpx. Any recommendations on how to safely secure it in my bedroom while still being able to access it in a reasonable amount of time? Having a 4 year old, there is just no way I will keep an unlocked gun near me.
Its a pretty small subgun but still appears too big for any of the common pistol bedside lockboxes.
Any other tips for safety and small children? Im really terrified of an accident so the gun is just stored far away in the basement and completely useless ATM.
Its a pretty small subgun but still appears too big for any of the common pistol bedside lockboxes.
Any other tips for safety and small children? Im really terrified of an accident so the gun is just stored far away in the basement and completely useless ATM.
You could always leave the gun out with the bolt back and keep the loaded mag in the safe.
Lastly, we keep 2 loaded ARs in one of these in our bedroom:https://www.hornadysecurity.com/rapi...r-gunlocker#!/
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